Should i add passive skills?

shoelace · Post by **shoelace** » Wed Jun 21, 2006 2:18 am

Hey guys i am a pure int / spear character. I am wondering whether should i add the passive for spear (add HP) and force (add MP). And the passive for ice (add Physical Defence). Thanks...

Bakemaster · Post by **Bakemaster** » Wed Jun 21, 2006 2:37 am

Usually pure nukers have either the HP passive or the ice defense passive, and not both. If you are planning to nuke a lot with ice, go ahead and get both, says I. But maybe you want to save SP and not have any heuksal mastery. It's really your choice... but I highly recommend the HP passive.

shoelace · Post by **shoelace** » Wed Jun 21, 2006 2:39 am

Thanks for the quite reply man. I am only focusing on fire / lighting. So i dont think i will add the ice passive. How bout the force passive( Adds Mp)? What skills should i add for lighting? As for fire, I intend to max out the imbue..is that okay? And should i wear armor/protector/garment?

ShizKnight · Post by **ShizKnight** » Wed Jun 21, 2006 2:46 am

Don't do the Force passive.

Bakemaster · Post by **Bakemaster** » Wed Jun 21, 2006 2:51 am

What do you need MP for? A pure INT has boatloads of MP. Force passive totally optional, for obsessive compulsives only. The only skill in the lightning tree that I consider optional for a nuker is the imbue. Since you'll be dual nuking with fire, the most common thing would be to just get the fire imbue since its magic damage is better and it won't attract tons of mobs with splash damage who then smish you.

Now, some people will say "don't get concentration/lightning passive, parry is useless". They are wrong. Others will say "don't get lion shouts, too weak". They are crazy (uppercut rules your face). For fire, I think every build with ANY fire mastery MUST get as much fire shield as possible. Status reduction is lovely. Keep a shield handy to equip when you want to cast it. Physical damage buff/passive... Again, only for the obsessive compulsive. Fire wall? Little good to say about it. Experiment with 1 level if you like.

shoelace · Post by **shoelace** » Wed Jun 21, 2006 2:57 am

Hmm i guess i'll skip the force passive. Thanks for the advice man. So for fire i just max out imbue and fire shield? As for lighting, its best that i learn all those nukes? Btw, should i wear armor or protector? I am currenly lvl 14 with only 800+ sp...=(

kitary · Post by **kitary** » Wed Jun 21, 2006 3:01 am

odd i see every high lvl with ice buffs

even full int nukers with spear passives

both nukes from lightning ??

if you mean the lightning bolt stuff than yeah , if you mean the shock lion shout , than , wel yes and no , its a good skill , i personaly dont use it , but its realy great to knock off the last bid of hp from a mob if its still standing after a nuke

shoelace · Post by **shoelace** » Wed Jun 21, 2006 3:10 am

Okay i get the idea so far. But should i get ice too? Its like i dont have much sp left. =( Should i wear ARMOR, PROTECTOR OR GARMENT?

Bakemaster · Post by **Bakemaster** » Wed Jun 21, 2006 3:19 am

shoelace wrote:So for fire i just max out imbue and fire shield?

And the nukes, of course. Fire nuke book 1 can be left at level 1 if you want, since the second book is stronger and only 1 level is required. However, fire nuke 1 may be your only skills which is ranged and hits only one target, making it valuable when fighting uniques that would smish you if you got close or aggroed a bunch of mobs.

kitary wrote:odd i see every high lvl with ice buffs

even full int nukers with spear passives

The majority of those high levels botted up enough SP to get whatever they like. They will likely run out of mastery points in the future and have to get rid of something.

Personally I wear garments and am switching to armor at the seventh degree. It is up to you, but I like to run fast. The only reason I now switch to armor is because all the best mobs to grind at my level are physical damage, and the same goes for the stone cave later on. I'll be trying to collect garments as well so I can use both, but you probably can't afford that right now. Pick whatever you like. I recommend garments.

shoelace · Post by **shoelace** » Wed Jun 21, 2006 3:23 am

Hey really thanks for the help BakeMaster & kitary. So i guess i just add sp on the fire imbue and 2 nukes. For lighting i should add all the nukes + passive and concentration right? Hmm any advice on when should i start my job? i plan to thief =x

kitary · Post by **kitary** » Wed Jun 21, 2006 3:24 am

run fast ? , get graswalk

mana save 20% ? no need , youl have tons of mana

phy defence ?? you dont have any ,i would get armor at some point above lvl 32
and thieving , kinda depends , solo thieving , at around lvl 42 i think , but it could be at lower lvl's if you have like a guild of thieves to help you

get ready to catch alot of crap as a thieve tho
( yes people kiss their moms with that mouth , mom dono wat thay say on i-net 4sure ^^)

Bakemaster · Post by **Bakemaster** » Wed Jun 21, 2006 3:42 am

kitary wrote:run fast ? , get graswalk

FASTER

kitary wrote:phy defence ?? you dont have any

KILL THEM FIRST

ShizKnight · Post by **ShizKnight** » Wed Jun 21, 2006 3:59 am

If you want to thieve, have at least one 52+ with you, or be 52+.

TenKai · Post by **TenKai** » Wed Jun 21, 2006 9:03 am

YES 100% add ice and the passive and buff also icewall

ice is teh greatest for int

kitary · Post by **kitary** » Wed Jun 21, 2006 9:51 am

tss bake thare are so many sitiations that you cant kill em first
lets see , mobbed , champs , giants , str bladers , glaivers , etc etc

KILL EM FIRST .. dus not alway's work my friend

Bakemaster · Post by **Bakemaster** » Wed Jun 21, 2006 11:48 am

I was just funnin'.