Freedom of speech in China, or lack thereof.

Anh_Hung_Rom · Post by **Anh_Hung_Rom** » Fri Jun 08, 2007 11:41 pm

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070607/od_ ... luLUXtiBIF

In the news, a China newspaper sacked their editors for a leak of a small advertisement that pays tribute to the mothers of the people died in the democracy movement in June 4, 1989.

thecoolkid · Post by **thecoolkid** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 12:35 am

communist countries are fuckers

TOloseGT · Post by **TOloseGT** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 12:45 am

ah well, at least ppl are trying.

fena · Post by **fena** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 1:11 am

thecoolkid wrote:communist countries are fuckers

**** you, dude.

BrokenSaint · Post by **BrokenSaint** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 1:14 am

I don't really support communism, but I don't hate it.

thecoolkid · Post by **thecoolkid** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 1:14 am

FenaCorp wrote:
thecoolkid wrote:communist countries are fuckers

**** you, dude.

it was a good idea, but it never worked.

If it was good, then how come everybody threw away the idea except China, North Korea, Cuba?

fena · Post by **fena** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 1:20 am

thecoolkid wrote:
FenaCorp wrote:
thecoolkid wrote:communist countries are fuckers

**** you, dude.

it was a good idea, but it never worked.

If it was good, then how come everybody threw away the idea except China, North Korea, Cuba?

I never said it was a good idea.
I just don't like the idea that you're running around calling community countries "fuckers".

XemnasXD · Post by **XemnasXD** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 1:27 am

I just want them to give tibet back.... :cry:

seriously they need to give it back

Anh_Hung_Rom · Post by **Anh_Hung_Rom** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 1:44 am

thecoolkid wrote:
FenaCorp wrote:
thecoolkid wrote:communist countries are fuckers

**** you, dude.

it was a good idea, but it never worked.

If it was good, then how come everybody threw away the idea except China, North Korea, Cuba?

Vietnam

Doesn't count for a lot if you list by countries but that's about 1/5 of the world population.

thecoolkid · Post by **thecoolkid** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 1:45 am

hahaha,

don't expect China to give up Tibet, not until their communist government collapses (which I doubt will ever happen)

They might if the entire world and the UN pressures them to.

shadowman20875 · Post by **shadowman20875** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 1:53 am

thecoolkid wrote:communist countries are fuckers

go to hell bitch

Well China's only communist in some principles now, and capitalist in most aspects ever since the Si Chuan experiement

Skitsefrenik · Post by **Skitsefrenik** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 2:03 am

China FTW

shadowman20875 · Post by **shadowman20875** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 2:29 am

Skitsefrenik wrote:China FTW

+1,300,000,000

XemnasXD · Post by **XemnasXD** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 2:31 am

>.> i wouldn't take it that far i mean chinas not a terrible country but its worse than the US...which is pretty bad imo

RuYi · Post by **RuYi** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 8:33 am

The idea behind communism isn't such a bad idea if you think about it for a while. It just doesn't work.

In 10 years 50% of all manifactured items are from China. Sounds all nice, but very often the conditions of the workers are terrible.
The documentary China Blue shows this aspect of one of China's problems, and that the owner of the factory is not always to blame.

Tibet? I never knew much about it.
Until I went out for a walk and I met monks from Tibet, who had to flee their country. They were such amazing people, and I will never forget that day.

Tibet should be free.
Over 6000 monasteries are destroyed, 80% of Tibets forests are ruined for wood for the Chinese Government. Monks and nuns are innocent in prisons and are tortured on a regular base, aswell as forced abortion and sterilisation of women in Tibet.

takolin · Post by **takolin** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 8:38 am

Communism only works in theory.
Marx and Lenin had good ideas, but Stalin farked it up.

Why are people forgetting Taiwan, iirc China doesn't recognize it's independence, but I could be wrong.

Priam · Post by **Priam** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 8:50 am

China isn't really communist anymore, the regime is deviant.

Though I don't agree with certain policies. Like the 'Only one child per couple' rule.. i mean there's gotta be a more subtle solution then putting people up for abortion every day.

China is a cool country, they're growing economicly, an we'll all be learning chinese in a couple of years.

BlackFox · Post by **BlackFox** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 8:54 am

communism are olmost evrywhere not only in China and they always do bad thing to ppl whatever they say first ,but later on ,oh yea they show really who they are and brake down ppl whit thier BLAHBLAH ..

Priam · Post by **Priam** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 8:56 am

Essentially communism is a fair, and in some points good idea. But it only works in theory,

RuYi · Post by **RuYi** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 12:47 pm

Priam wrote:Like the 'Only one child per couple' rule.. i mean there's gotta be a more subtle solution then putting people up for abortion every day.

It's not only one child per couple actually. The woman can give birth only once. If she gets twins or triplets she can keep both of them.

Website · Post by **satman83** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 2:12 pm

RuYi wrote:
Priam wrote:Like the 'Only one child per couple' rule.. i mean there's gotta be a more subtle solution then putting people up for abortion every day.

It's not only one child per couple actually. The woman can give birth only once. If she gets twins or triplets she can keep both of them.

but i heard that they changed it now...to 3 children..oh

and as for communism not working...lol works a hell lot better then
capitalism, i mean compare cuba and china to some of the so called
"super powers"...they cant touch them. Cuba has the worlds best
education system and health service and China has the worlds largest
and fastest growing industry and economy(second only to Indian also
belived to over take US by 2010, changing the top 3 to, 1=China 2=India
3=USA).

I mean communism is a much better principle that capitalism....but you
have all been brainwashed....i mean 1960's American and England hated
communism because it took power from the government and gave it to
the people via non-government controlled industries, lol so no wonder
they spent the best part of the last 50 years bad mouthing them...scared
of an uprising in their own countires like what happend to Tzarist Russia.
:roll:

Priam · Post by **Priam** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 2:24 pm

satman83 wrote:
RuYi wrote:
Priam wrote:Like the 'Only one child per couple' rule.. i mean there's gotta be a more subtle solution then putting people up for abortion every day.

It's not only one child per couple actually. The woman can give birth only once. If she gets twins or triplets she can keep both of them.

but i heard that they changed it now...to 3 children..oh

I think that only applies in some area's, or so i've heard

heroo · Post by **heroo** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 3:53 pm

communism wont work, it can never work because one man or one party has total command.

ciddy · Post by **ciddy** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 3:53 pm

thecoolkid wrote:communist countries fuckers

lol you're not helping the problem.
communist is an idea, which emphasis on equality. i suggest you visit china and compare in during the times of imperialism, before using the f word.

Priam wrote:China isn't really communist anymore, the regime is deviant.

Though I don't agree with certain policies. Like the 'Only one child per couple' rule.. i mean there's gotta be a more subtle solution then putting people up for abortion every day.

China is a cool country, they're growing economicly, an we'll all be learning chinese in a couple of years.

not really the "one child policy" before was a strict policy under Mao, which only farmers could have more than one child. These days having one child bring less taxes and more governmental benefits, and the fact that raising a kid is a big liability to the parents, most end of having 1 or no child.

i'm actually happy china doing something about the population, while look at India (no offense) they need to work their population growth.

ciddy · Post by **ciddy** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 4:02 pm

Xia_Hou_Dun wrote:
thecoolkid wrote:communist countries fuckers

lol you're not helping the problem.
communist is an idea, which emphasis on equality. i suggest you visit china and compare in during the times of imperialism, before using the f word.

Priam wrote:China isn't really communist anymore, the regime is deviant.

Though I don't agree with certain policies. Like the 'Only one child per couple' rule.. i mean there's gotta be a more subtle solution then putting people up for abortion every day.

China is a cool country, they're growing economicly, an we'll all be learning chinese in a couple of years.

not really the "one child policy" before was a strict policy under Mao, which only farmers could have more than one child. These days having one child bring less taxes and more governmental benefits, and the fact that raising a kid is a big liability to the parents, most end of having 1 or no child.

i'm actually happy china doing something about the population, while look at India (no offense) they need to work their population growth.

satman83 wrote:
RuYi wrote:
Priam wrote:Like the 'Only one child per couple' rule.. i mean there's gotta be a more subtle solution then putting people up for abortion every day.

It's not only one child per couple actually. The woman can give birth only once. If she gets twins or triplets she can keep both of them.

but i heard that they changed it now...to 3 children..oh

and as for communism not working...lol works a hell lot better then
capitalism, i mean compare cuba and china to some of the so called
"super powers"...they cant touch them. Cuba has the worlds best
education system and health service and China has the worlds largest
and fastest growing industry and economy(second only to Indian also
belived to over take US by 2010, changing the top 3 to, 1=China 2=India
3=USA).

I mean communism is a much better principle that capitalism....but you
have all been brainwashed....i mean 1960's American and England hated
communism because it took power from the government and gave it to
the people via non-government controlled industries, lol so no wonder
they spent the best part of the last 50 years bad mouthing them...scared
of an uprising in their own countires like what happend to Tzarist Russia.

+1 people must realize what countries like china and india has been threw. Imperialism during the 19th century to both countries were harassed and when the European countries left, they had to rebuilt and reshape almost everything. Ideologies such as communism and nationalism arise, which captured the hearts of the people.

Skitsefrenik · Post by **Skitsefrenik** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 4:28 pm

Commies would never elect Bush .

takolin · Post by **takolin** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 4:56 pm

heroo wrote:communism wont work, it can never work because one man or one party has total command.

Not quite true. Sure in the USSR and china there was only one party, but that not what communism is about.
It's based on equality in everything. There's no such thing as property. All people get the same paycheck. The list goes one.

The communism you talk about is the dictatorial regime by 1 person like Stalin or Mao, but that's not the point.

There are countries where 1 person/party has nearly absolute power.
Countries like the US and France where there's no such thing as a coalition between 2/3 parties in the government.
But you can't call those countries communistic, can you?

CrimsonNuker · Post by **CrimsonNuker** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 6:19 pm

shadowman20875 wrote:
Skitsefrenik wrote:China FTW

+1,300,000,000

+999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999

Skitsefrenik · Post by **Skitsefrenik** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 6:24 pm

hong kong, pfft >.>

Post by **Stress** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 6:44 pm

Communism was a fantastic idea (by the idea only).
For about 50 years communism reigned here in Romania too. The idea of equality is attractive by itself. But equality means lacking private proprierty. This is where and why communism failed lammentably.
In china, it still thrives, because the goverment has taken measures to make a sort of market economy, but still under the strict control of the sate.

My 0,02$ about communism.