Hawk + Sword. Good? Bad? Ugly?

LuV3r8o1 · Post by **LuV3r8o1** » Sat Nov 18, 2006 8:13 pm

Is the hawk worth getting for a swordsman?
I know i'll need a bow to summon it, that's not a problem. And the extra attack rating couldn't hurt.

If you've tried this, i'd like to know how you felt about it.

zexy · Post by **zexy** » Sat Nov 18, 2006 9:40 pm

Yeah its worth it.

How it looks is up to you to decide, we cant all have the same taste o.0

0Kelvin · Post by **0Kelvin** » Sun Nov 19, 2006 11:22 am

I switched from bow to sword at level 22 so I've got a level 5 hawk (increases attack rating by 14) that I always summon when I'm grinding. I haven't really compared how I go without it, but I figure every little bit helps. As for looks, my pets match becaue they're both white. Now all I need is a white bunny and I'll be set.

wildwolf111 · Post by **wildwolf111** » Sun Nov 19, 2006 12:02 pm

Hawk don't work on sword.
It requires a bow to use the skill.

0Kelvin · Post by **0Kelvin** » Sun Nov 19, 2006 12:21 pm

Yeah it does. You only need a bow to summon it, then you can switch back to sword. Trust me, I do it all the time.

oktaytheazer · Post by **oktaytheazer** » Sun Nov 19, 2006 8:42 pm

0Kelvin wrote:Yeah it does. You only need a bow to summon it, then you can switch back to sword. Trust me, I do it all the time.

may b it helps on a bow more may b not just but dats ok de real question is does it help ne ? lol

Ell · Post by **Ell** » Sun Nov 19, 2006 9:04 pm

Some nukers get the hawk because magical damage(which is what a nuker deals) varies greatly with each attack. So the hawk helps you deal your highest possible damage.

LuV3r8o1 · Post by **LuV3r8o1** » Sun Nov 19, 2006 9:20 pm

thx guys!

I'm going for the hawk!

Now i just need to get iSRO working with kSRO again. :banghead:

phoeniXofury · Post by **phoeniXofury** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 3:17 am

personally, i would rather stick the points (because you have a 300 mastery cap) into another skill tree (ex. ice) for another nuke.
because, unless you lvl pacheon to 70 and get the blue hawk, IMHO, its not worth it. 19 AR hardly does too much difference when you have 200-300 something on your weapon, right?
thats just my opinion though.

LuV3r8o1 · Post by **LuV3r8o1** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 5:17 am

I think i'm gonna skip over ice nuke. It doesn't do as much damage as fire and lit.

Question to the people that use hawk + sword...should I get blue hawk or black hawk? I have a wolf, so if I get the black hawk, it'll be like 2 pets. BUT the blue hawk gives the attack rating increase.

AHHH!! The choices!!! :banghead:

Penguin13 · Post by **Penguin13** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 6:08 am

Um, Don't get the hawk that does damage, because that defeats the purpose of getting a hawk (your nukes should be killing mobs in 1-2 hits anyway, and you need the AR increase.)

Troo · Post by **Troo** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 7:07 am

It is deffinitally worth-it at lower lvls but at higher lvls:
- you might get in trouble with masteries..
- you can use alchemy to pimp up your ar, becomes less 'worth-it

I dunno.. i'd say if you got pacheon already to 7 because you've farmed at the bandit den you might as well get it for 10.

zexy · Post by **zexy** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 11:53 am

You wont notice a difference with the hawk + pacheon passive before lv 60+ where you start to deal massive damage

wildwolf111 · Post by **wildwolf111** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 1:55 pm

0Kelvin wrote:Yeah it does. You only need a bow to summon it, then you can switch back to sword. Trust me, I do it all the time.

Erm... Bring a bow just for summoning a lvl 1 hawk... How useful is that???

Ell · Post by **Ell** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 9:17 pm

wildwolf111 wrote:
0Kelvin wrote:Yeah it does. You only need a bow to summon it, then you can switch back to sword. Trust me, I do it all the time.

Erm... Bring a bow just for summoning a lvl 1 hawk... How useful is that???

Actually it is quite useful and i know many people who do this. And almost every single high level player uses a shield to add fire shield. It can only help you right? How could it be not useful?

zexy · Post by **zexy** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 4:45 am

wildwolf111 wrote:
0Kelvin wrote:Yeah it does. You only need a bow to summon it, then you can switch back to sword. Trust me, I do it all the time.

Erm... Bring a bow just for summoning a lvl 1 hawk... How useful is that???

Im sure you can spare a slot for it.

And how high you choose to level the hawk is up to you.

I carried a shield in my inventory since lv 50 (now instead of pills), to make myself immune.

Other people a bow to increase overall damage

Dempster · Post by **Dempster** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 1:09 pm

ive seen many successful glaive chars with the bow skills up to 54 for the blue hawk, but i think its ugly XD

imporkchop · Post by **imporkchop** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 2:23 pm

ur gonna run outta mastery lvl.

i assume u probly gettin heuskal passive for hp boost..

right now @ lvl 70 cap u probly spare some mastery for it . when cap rises ur gonna run out and hve to delvl it.

muhkuh · Post by **muhkuh** » Fri Nov 24, 2006 3:38 am

well in theory the plus AR from white or blue hawk is a fine thing.
i was a huge fan of this once. Till i found out for myself that you dont benefit that much from it as you should.

as 6X pure int nuker i thought it would be nice to have some additional AR so i skilled pacheon up to 54 to get the blue hawk and the passive.

Additonally i also tested the Scroll from Event to gain 4XX Hit Ratio.
Sadly, after hours of grinding i realize that there was absolutely no difference compared to killing with no Hawk & Scroll and Hit Ratio of 29X. Hard to believe but true.