Global warming...man-made or not?

[dom]

dom mans footprint of this earth is like an ant on the sun (size comparison). plus the dust bowl was a drought with farmers over farming the land.

/FACEPALM

[Amarisa]

dom mans footprint of this earth is like an ant on the sun (size comparison). plus the dust bowl was a drought with farmers over farming the land. besides that probably would of happened anyways maybe not to the extent but to some scale.

Seriously, open your eyes.

how so? i cant have an opinion? i cant believe that humans have like almost no effect on the earth? i'm talking about the climate here not how humans chop down all the trees and cause all the animals in that area to relocate. what that being said prove me wrong show me something that humans did to the climate and something big not the no airplanes in the are made for clear skys.

[Zen]

Global warming is a load of crap

LOL i you
couldnt have said it better myself

[McLovin1t]

It really isn't a load of crap, and no I just read some stuff on the first page, and I was kind of like lolwut. Anyway it is a natural cycle, but we aren't letting the cycle continue. Deforestation traps CO2, causes rise in temperatures, duh. I mean it is really hard to miss that fact. And with more CO2, things become hotter. And our ice cream melts . Watch the futurama take on Global Warming!!! No but seriously, it is obviously not man-made, but the harm we have caused has brought it up to a more dangerous magnitude. And BTW, substances in chloro flouro carbons break down the ozone and cause skin cancer and cataracts, not an increase in temperature, along with a weakening of the immune system. So yes it is not man made, but mankind has caused it to go to more dangerous magnitudes. Scientist studies say at this rate, in 100 years the global temperature will go up by 3 degrees fahrenheit (Don't ask for source, I read it in a book a couple of years ago on global warming). Not too bad right? In 1000 years at that same rate, assuming it won't be an exponential growth, which it will be most likely, the average temperature will go up 30 degrees, killing most animals, and probably us also. And BTW, in a few million years, our sun will turn into a red giant and will swallow up earth so it's inevitable . I don't want my ice cream to melt!!!

[XemnasXD]

The earth is getting warmer. This is a fact. Whether is this is due to man made things or an act of nature the truth remains that its getting hotter so theres no way you can just call it a load of crap...

[Amarisa]

The earth is getting warmer. This is a fact. Whether is this is due to man made things or an act of nature the truth remains that its getting hotter so theres no way you can just call it a load of crap...

or because its summer?

[Blindfire]

The earth is getting warmer. This is a fact. Whether is this is due to man made things or an act of nature the truth remains that its getting hotter so theres no way you can just call it a load of crap...

or because its summer?

Spoiler!

[lavapockets]

It's 2009 and there are still people who don't think global warming is real and man-made?? Seriously? Maybe it's because I grew up in an environmentally oriented home and area, but jesus we knew about this back in the 80's.

From 2004 article available here:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/ar ... Dec25.html
"Many people have the impression that there is significant scientific disagreement about global climate change. It's time to lay that misapprehension to rest. There is a scientific consensus on the fact that Earth's climate is heating up and human activities are part of the reason. We need to stop repeating nonsense about the uncertainty of global warming and start talking seriously about the right approach to address it."

A friend of mine co-wrote an article about environmental skepticism, and found that basically all of the literature on global warming NOT happening and NOT being man-made comes out of a very small group of conservatively aligned think tanks funded by the oil and automobile industries.

Good article about sea level rise:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 092741.htm
Here's another one about corals:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 141006.htm
About keeping global warming under 2C
http://www.nature.com/climate/2009/0907 ... 09.57.html
Impact on rural poor and climate migrants
http://www.nature.com/climate/2009/0907 ... 09.56.html

[DumboDii]

I'm the reason of global warming. I'm just so damn hot.

[crazyskwrls]

You're all misinformed. It's not chemicals produced by humans or some natural phenomenon that the Earth undergoes on some X amount of years. One word: Pirates.

the reason behind it

[*BlackFox]

Do you believe global warming is man-made?

No..
Global warming is just part of a natural cycle and always will be.

[McLovin1t]

dom mans footprint of this earth is like an ant on the sun (size comparison). plus the dust bowl was a drought with farmers over farming the land. besides that probably would of happened anyways maybe not to the extent but to some scale.

Seriously, open your eyes.

how so? i cant have an opinion? i cant believe that humans have like almost no effect on the earth? i'm talking about the climate here not how humans chop down all the trees and cause all the animals in that area to relocate. what that being said prove me wrong show me something that humans did to the climate and something big not the no airplanes in the are made for clear skys.

/facepalm . Honestly dude where have you been, look at the CO2 levels since the industrial revolution... Same with blackfox.

[Amarisa]

/facepalm . Honestly dude where have you been, look at the CO2 levels since the industrial revolution... Same with blackfox.

co2 barely does anything to the earth even if it does there is something out there to counter it. co2 levels are pathetic in global warming i mean come on did anyone see the videos on the first page? there was a time the earth was 10 DEGREES warmer........and your all worried about 1-2? dont listen to Al gore sure it sounds right but look at the whole picture does it still look right?

[William-CL]

This thread is full of way to many opinions and not facts....

The problem is, you can;t be sure certain about if it's true or not because Scientists are still not sure.. Wasn't Alaska suppose to break off some years ago ? Something about continents flooding also? That didn't seem to happen...

[Amarisa]

This thread is full of way to many opinions and not facts....

The problem is, you can;t be sure certain about if it's true or not because Scientists are still not sure.. Wasn't Alaska suppose to break off some years ago ? Something about continents flooding also? That didn't seem to happen...

i thought it was California o.0

[McLovin1t]

/facepalm . Honestly dude where have you been, look at the CO2 levels since the industrial revolution... Same with blackfox.

co2 barely does anything to the earth even if it does there is something out there to counter it. co2 levels are pathetic in global warming i mean come on did anyone see the videos on the first page? there was a time the earth was 10 DEGREES warmer........and your all worried about 1-2? dont listen to Al gore sure it sounds right but look at the whole picture does it still look right?

Lol. Think on a bigger timeframe. 1-2 Degrees per 100 years. 1000 years, 20 degrees, most if not all arctic animals will die.

[Amarisa]

/facepalm . Honestly dude where have you been, look at the CO2 levels since the industrial revolution... Same with blackfox.

co2 barely does anything to the earth even if it does there is something out there to counter it. co2 levels are pathetic in global warming i mean come on did anyone see the videos on the first page? there was a time the earth was 10 DEGREES warmer........and your all worried about 1-2? dont listen to Al gore sure it sounds right but look at the whole picture does it still look right?

Lol. Think on a bigger timeframe. 1-2 Degrees per 100 years. 1000 years, 20 degrees, most if not all arctic animals will die.

lol? its not going to keep going up something is going to happen that will make it get colder. we hit our peak in fact isn't it already starting to get colder? like i have been saying watch the videos on page 1 of this thread and it will explain.

[AlexanderIII]

The ozone hole was made by humans,thus made the ultra-violet rayons to pass and those rayons are hotter and dangerous to humans

[William-CL]

The ozone hole was made by humans,thus made the ultra-violet rayons to pass and those rayons are hotter and dangerous to humans

Google Is mans best friend, no?

Keyword, Ozone hole
http://www.theozonehole.com/

lmao...

[AlexanderIII]

The ozone hole was made by humans,thus made the ultra-violet rayons to pass and those rayons are hotter and dangerous to humans

Google Is mans best friend, no?

No,brainless ppl use Google,or use Wikipedia wich they think its the most trustable source wich prooves their fools and idiots,sorry im not like those ppl that will google every shit instead of make their brains work a little bit.

[lavapockets]

co2 barely does anything to the earth even if it does there is something out there to counter it. co2 levels are pathetic in global warming i mean come on did anyone see the videos on the first page? there was a time the earth was 10 DEGREES warmer........and your all worried about 1-2? dont listen to Al gore sure it sounds right but look at the whole picture does it still look right?

Lol. Think on a bigger timeframe. 1-2 Degrees per 100 years. 1000 years, 20 degrees, most if not all arctic animals will die.

lol? its not going to keep going up something is going to happen that will make it get colder. we hit our peak in fact isn't it already starting to get colder? like i have been saying watch the videos on page 1 of this thread and it will explain.

Right, exactly how have we hit our peak warming now when our peak carbon levels will continue for hundreds of years? Maybe YOU should READ the sources I quoted above. Nature is one of the best (if not the best) science publications out there. They're not arguing about "if" global warming is happening, they're trying to figure out what damage it will cause, how many people and animals will be affected, and how the earth will deal with such a massive climate shift in such a short period. This really isn't a debate anymore, at least not for the informed.

You know what I really think though? I think the outcome does not compute with some people's brains. I'm not sure if it's a self preservation measure, if it's ignorance, stupidity, or just sheer terror, but I really think some of you just can't process the information. So when one guy gets up and says, don't worry it's not really happening, you RUN to him and ignore thousands of scientists telling you different. Or you don't want to believe it's true because then the future is scary and your behavior is in question. Take your pick, but that's how it looks through my eyes.

[McLovin1t]

Right, exactly how have we hit our peak warming now when our peak carbon levels will continue for hundreds of years? Maybe YOU should READ the sources I quoted above. Nature is one of the best (if not the best) science publications out there. They're not arguing about "if" global warming is happening, they're trying to figure out what damage it will cause, how many people and animals will be affected, and how the earth will deal with such a massive climate shift in such a short period. This really isn't a debate anymore, at least not for the informed.

You know what I really think though? I think the outcome does not compute with some people's brains. I'm not sure if it's a self preservation measure, if it's ignorance, stupidity, or just sheer terror, but I really think some of you just can't process the information. So when one guy gets up and says, don't worry it's not really happening, you RUN to him and ignore thousands of scientists telling you different. Or you don't want to believe it's true because then the future is scary and your behavior is in question. Take your pick, but that's how it looks through my eyes.

+1

[_Exsanguination_]

Humans contribute greatly to it I believe in the emission of CFC(ChloroFlouroCarbons),which comes out directly from refrigerators and airconditoners(imagine all the refs and aircons in the wrold). Especially in the 90's where CFC free Freeons where not yet invented,thank god most of them now are already phased out. These contributes most likely in the destruction of the ozone layer and the hole is getting larger and larger at a phase compared to the past decades.

[Amarisa]

So when one guy gets up and says, don't worry it's not really happening, you RUN to him and ignore thousands of scientists telling you different. Or you don't want to believe it's true because then the future is scary and your behavior is in question. Take your pick, but that's how it looks through my eyes.

no that is not how it goes i don't listen to 1 guy and stick with him. i used to believe Al gore after watching his movie thing then saw evidence that i believe proved him wrong. i listen to everyones evidence and make up my own mind i don't let someone else make it for me.

this is about peoples opinions there is no way one person is right. sure the levels of CO2 is sky rocketing but i don't believe it will cause global warming. sea level rise is nothing because once fresh water shuts down the Pacific belt or what ever you call it the transfer of heat by the ocean is dead. there is so many things that counter the other say one thing and there is something out there that will counter it.

[lavapockets]

So when one guy gets up and says, don't worry it's not really happening, you RUN to him and ignore thousands of scientists telling you different. Or you don't want to believe it's true because then the future is scary and your behavior is in question. Take your pick, but that's how it looks through my eyes.

no that is not how it goes i don't listen to 1 guy and stick with him. i used to believe Al gore after watching his movie thing then saw evidence that i believe proved him wrong. i listen to everyones evidence and make up my own mind i don't let someone else make it for me.

this is about peoples opinions there is no way one person is right. sure the levels of CO2 is sky rocketing but i don't believe it will cause global warming. sea level rise is nothing because once fresh water shuts down the Pacific belt or what ever you call it the transfer of heat by the ocean is dead. there is so many things that counter the other say one thing and there is something out there that will counter it.

First of all, I hope you're READING evidentiary support and not listening to it. Al Gore's movie is great because he's trying to motivate people, but he does get some of the science wrong, so it might be easier to refute than evidence coming from an actual scientist. This is not about people's opinions. There is scientific evidence that points to man-made global warming, there is scientific evidence that the warming is excellerating, and there is evidence that catastrophic events are likely to occur if we don't cut down on our carbon emmissions. There isn't going to be some magic "thing" that comes in and cools our planet down. We're in trouble, period.

Here is an article talking about this topic precisely:
http://www.scientificamerican.com/artic ... ing-a-myth

This one is a nice slideshow
http://www.scientificamerican.com/artic ... ate-change
Article about climate change:
http://www.scientificamerican.com/artic ... in-greenho

Fires and global warming:
http://www.scientificamerican.com/artic ... ate-change

Something to keep in mind. In case any of you don't understand how scientists function, they are moderately risk adverse and their assessments and predictions normally range on the conservative side. They dislike saying something is happening without being able to prove causality, which is why it took them so long to officially come out and say "yes climate change and global warming are happening and they are man made". Now, what you have in the meantime are a bunch of non-scientists funded by conservative think tanks injecting their "opinions" (because they lack evidence). Do not equate hesitancy with being wrong, or expediancy with being right.

[McLovin1t]

So when one guy gets up and says, don't worry it's not really happening, you RUN to him and ignore thousands of scientists telling you different. Or you don't want to believe it's true because then the future is scary and your behavior is in question. Take your pick, but that's how it looks through my eyes.

no that is not how it goes i don't listen to 1 guy and stick with him. i used to believe Al gore after watching his movie thing then saw evidence that i believe proved him wrong. i listen to everyones evidence and make up my own mind i don't let someone else make it for me.

this is about peoples opinions there is no way one person is right. sure the levels of CO2 is sky rocketing but i don't believe it will cause global warming. sea level rise is nothing because once fresh water shuts down the Pacific belt or what ever you call it the transfer of heat by the ocean is dead. there is so many things that counter the other say one thing and there is something out there that will counter it.

Dude. Epic /facepalm

[Amarisa]

So when one guy gets up and says, don't worry it's not really happening, you RUN to him and ignore thousands of scientists telling you different. Or you don't want to believe it's true because then the future is scary and your behavior is in question. Take your pick, but that's how it looks through my eyes.

no that is not how it goes i don't listen to 1 guy and stick with him. i used to believe Al gore after watching his movie thing then saw evidence that i believe proved him wrong. i listen to everyones evidence and make up my own mind i don't let someone else make it for me.

this is about peoples opinions there is no way one person is right. sure the levels of CO2 is sky rocketing but i don't believe it will cause global warming. sea level rise is nothing because once fresh water shuts down the Pacific belt or what ever you call it the transfer of heat by the ocean is dead. there is so many things that counter the other say one thing and there is something out there that will counter it.

First of all, I hope you're READING evidentiary support and not listening to it. Al Gore's movie is great because he's trying to motivate people, but he does get some of the science wrong, so it might be easier to refute than evidence coming from an actual scientist. This is not about people's opinions. There is scientific evidence that points to man-made global warming, there is scientific evidence that the warming is excellerating, and there is evidence that catastrophic events are likely to occur if we don't cut down on our carbon emmissions. There isn't going to be some magic "thing" that comes in and cools our planet down. We're in trouble, period.

Here is an article talking about this topic precisely:
http://www.scientificamerican.com/artic ... ing-a-myth

This one is a nice slideshow
http://www.scientificamerican.com/artic ... ate-change
Article about climate change:
http://www.scientificamerican.com/artic ... in-greenho

Fires and global warming:
http://www.scientificamerican.com/artic ... ate-change

Something to keep in mind. In case any of you don't understand how scientists function, they are moderately risk adverse and their assessments and predictions normally range on the conservative side. They dislike saying something is happening without being able to prove causality, which is why it took them so long to officially come out and say "yes climate change and global warming are happening and they are man made". Now, what you have in the meantime are a bunch of non-scientists funded by conservative think tanks injecting their "opinions" (because they lack evidence). Do not equate hesitancy with being wrong, or expediancy with being right.

when i was talking about Al gore i meant his side of the story going oh no the earth is heating up. one of the articles talked about releasing a computer model.......computer models are worthless they don't have all the information they need to calculate the right information. history repeats itself and i say were going into a global cooling and not a global warming. i understand the points your making but honestly it looks exaggerated.
http://www.itpi.co.in/Resources/Climate ... re_co2.jpg
look at that then look at present day what do you see? CO2 levels sky rocketing out of the roof. now look at the temperatures.....in fact if you look closely our highest peak is already gone and starting to go down. ill even provide a zoomed in picture
http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj41 ... /12356.jpg

i don't know about you but it doesn't look like your little co2 heating the earth thing is real....sure something else might come by and cause temperatures to rise but CO2 sure as hell isn't. i'm not claiming global warming cant happen i'm claiming CO2 is not the cause and its not happing at this moment.

[McLovin1t]

Dude Amarisa gtfo. CO2 TRAPS HEAT. OF COURSE IT ISN'T AN INSTANT HUGE BUILDUP. Our peak is no where near the highest so seriously, just you are making me /facepalm so much. Where have you been for the past several years. Honestly. In hundreds of years, if CO2 keeps building up there will not be any more life, or anything so please stfu. Dude it's people like you who are like "omg it's nothing don't worry", and don't recycle or do anything and cause it to be an even bigger problem. The CO2 will heat up the ocean and cause more hurricanes, along with more destroyed animal species, so dude just listen to at least 5 well informed scientists (out of the thousands who know that it is 100% true), instead of the one insane person who showed you it doesn't exist.

[Amarisa]

Dude Amarisa gtfo. CO2 TRAPS HEAT. OF COURSE IT ISN'T AN INSTANT HUGE BUILDUP. Our peak is no where near the highest so seriously, just you are making me /facepalm so much. Where have you been for the past several years. Honestly. In hundreds of years, if CO2 keeps building up there will not be any more life, or anything so please stfu. Dude it's people like you who are like "omg it's nothing don't worry", and don't recycle or do anything and cause it to be an even bigger problem. The CO2 will heat up the ocean and cause more hurricanes, along with more destroyed animal species, so dude just listen to at least 5 well informed scientists (out of the thousands who know that it is 100% true), instead of the one insane person who showed you it doesn't exist.

did i say anything about all of that? i said CO2 is not the cause of global warming i never ONCE said cutting back on it wouldn't improve situations. we are having a discussion on a SRO FAN FORUM honestly i don't see why your getting upset on my opinions. its people like you that end up getting threads with honest discussions locked because you tell someone to "gtfo" for having an opinion.

[Mr.Ganji]

Why does it matter? Its far more productive to be asking questions regarding solutions instead of pointing fingers