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_Lana_ wrote:
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Thee_UniQue wrote:Besides, what the F is wrong with you?

Why get so angry at people who dislike it?
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No idea for him, but yeah of course i'm angry, i don't go in topic in which i have no idea what i'm talking about and bash stuff lie you guys do.

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this is not a phone and it brings a real phone to shame.

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All hail the real phone
Both items "i.e. the vamp<----->to the telephone/phone" are not the same thing, let's see...
The telephone (from the Greek: τῆλε, tēle, "far" and φωνή, phōnē, "voice") is a telecommunications device that is used to transmit and receive electronically or digitally encoded sound (most commonly speech) between two or more people conversing. It is one of the most common household appliances in the developed world today. Most telephones operate through transmission of electric signals over a complex telephone network which allows almost any phone user to communicate with almost any other user. Graphic symbols used to designate telephone service or phone-related information in print, signs, and other media include ℡, ☎, ☏, and ✆.
Both model of phone do that aight, therefor that is a real phone and doesn't bring the first phone to shame.? But now to the vampire rule of thumb
A vampire is a mythical creature who overcomes death by sucking the blood from living humans.
therefor that is why Edward is a joke. If Edward was maybe the first vampire it would atleast make the concept of not having to drink human blood, and glistening in the sun more believeable.

Therefor when we were conparing Edward to Dracula, we were comparing characterisics not just looks, like what you did with the telephone. OffTopic: Alucard would tear Edward to shreds.... :twisted:
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Edward and Dracula are both fiction characters, vampire they do drink blood but Edward doesn't want to. The old phone and new phone are the same. Bu one is new and the second is old. They are both same but have a few minor different features.

And Ewww Alucard, Kaname-senpai all the way <3

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_Lana_ wrote:And Ewww Alucard, Kaname-senpai all the way <3

I second that ;d
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_Lana_ wrote:Edward and Dracula are both fiction characters, vampire they do drink blood but Edward doesn't want to. The old phone and new phone are the same. Bu one is new and the second is old. They are both same but have a few minor different features.

And Ewww Alucard, Kaname-senpai all the way <3
True but the concept of a vampire "its roots atleast" has not change much throughout time, as with zombies and any other creature, unless it is a Frankenstien of the vampire species, the author should atleast provide a reason why Edward is able to live only on deer blood, and walk during the day without it conflicting with the concept of a vampire. Both phones stay true to thier roots even if one is old and the other is new. Honestly I don't mind upgraded vampires, but the concept of a vampire in Twilight is just ridiculous. And Alucard FTW.
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TYPICAL TWILIGHT FAN
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oh god...this just turned into that other topic about fat chicks....gross
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Wow those twilight fans are fcking sad!
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XemnasXD wrote:oh god...this just turned into that other topic about fat chicks....gross


Fat chicks and Twilight fans are very relative to one another.
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.curve wrote:
XemnasXD wrote:oh god...this just turned into that other topic about fat chicks....gross


Fat chicks and Twilight fans are very relative to one another.

Bring the statistics man!

OnT: I enjoy some harem* shows occasionally, so why the girls can't have theirs.

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bakafish wrote:
.curve wrote:
XemnasXD wrote:oh god...this just turned into that other topic about fat chicks....gross


Fat chicks and Twilight fans are very relative to one another.

Bring the statistics man!

OnT: I enjoy some harem* shows occasionally, so why the girls can't have theirs.

*: That's the impression I got without watching or reading any of the books.


Don't need no statistics. Commons sense > all.
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bakafish wrote:
.curve wrote:
XemnasXD wrote:oh god...this just turned into that other topic about fat chicks....gross


Fat chicks and Twilight fans are very relative to one another.

Bring the statistics man!

OnT: I enjoy some harem* shows occasionally, so why the girls can't have theirs.

*: That's the impression I got without watching or reading any of the books.


this is true...if guys can masturbate to Chobits i guess its ok for girls to....do..whatever that insane creature above is doing to twilight....but that doesn't mean i have to like it :x

enough fat jokes from me, theres a ton more stuff wrong with her than her weight...
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Whale?! Now I'm actually glad that China blocked YouTube rofl.
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bakafish wrote:
.curve wrote:
XemnasXD wrote:oh god...this just turned into that other topic about fat chicks....gross


Fat chicks and Twilight fans are very relative to one another.

Bring the statistics man!

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From the above source, I estimate roughly 97% of fat chicks are indeed twilight fans and roughly 40% of twilight fans are fat chicks.

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inky wrote:TYPICAL TWILIGHT FAN
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MAN THE HARPOONS!

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Dude WTF >_>
Why do people post things like that about themselves?

.curve wrote:Fat chicks and Twilight fans are very relative to one another.

Dun stereotype you. It's probably mostly little girls rather then fat chicks anyway.
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From the above source, I estimate roughly 97% of fat chicks are indeed twilight fans and roughly 40% of twilight fans are fat chicks.


ROFL!

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And why should the Cullen be like any old-school vampire?

The writter of the book could've been the first to "invent" the vampires, well she wasn't, but it doesn't mean she has to copy every vampire, if whoever invented the dracula invented it the way he\she did why shouldn't the writter of this book have the right to invent her very own type of vampire?

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Thee_UniQue wrote:And why should the Cullen be like any old-school vampire?

The writter of the book could've been the first to "invent" the vampires, well she wasn't, but it doesn't mean she has to copy every vampire, if whoever invented the dracula invented it the way he\she did why shouldn't the writter of this book have the right to invent her very own type of vampire?


The entire Twilight series is plagiarized off this book series (Southern Vampire Mysteries):
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which is the basis for the story of the HBO show, True Blood.
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Thee_UniQue wrote:And why should the Cullen be like any old-school vampire?

The writter of the book could've been the first to "invent" the vampires, well she wasn't, but it doesn't mean she has to copy every vampire, if whoever invented the dracula invented it the way he\she did why shouldn't the writter of this book have the right to invent her very own type of vampire?


Because being a vampire implies certain things, otherwise it's not a vampire.
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Reise wrote:
Thee_UniQue wrote:And why should the Cullen be like any old-school vampire?

The writter of the book could've been the first to "invent" the vampires, well she wasn't, but it doesn't mean she has to copy every vampire, if whoever invented the dracula invented it the way he\she did why shouldn't the writter of this book have the right to invent her very own type of vampire?[/b]


Because being a vampire implies certain things, otherwise it's not a vampire.
+1 also the concept of a vampire was not invent by the book Dracula, Dracula is just the easily character to refer to when one speaks of vampiric characteristics.
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Fictional concepts, such as vampires, need not conform to any traditional views. Their definitions are at the hands of the writer. You can have the stereotypical vampire we've all come to know but if the author says it's not a vampire, it is NOT a vampire. If an author describes a creature that is hardly what we call a vampire, a vampire - it IS a vampire.

Let's take wizards for an example:

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You might then be inclined to say that they both stay true to their associations with magic - which is almost synonymous to wizards. Let's take a different fictional creature, elves:

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There's quite a large leap in their differences, but how far can they go? It's all up to the writer's imagination. Take one last example - angels:

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TL;DR:
Fictional entities are subject to their creators. Don't argue the author about it because whether you like it or not, you're wrong.

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Doppleganger wrote:So the black guy wants to get with the girl and the wolf wants the black guy but the girl wants both the wolf and the black guy?


no no no


the Vampire wants the girl but the black guy is a Vampire who eats Humans so a werewolf comes along who eats vampires only to find that he can't because he loves the girl but the girl hates black people and he's part chinese so they deicide to get married. Somewhere along the way there's some weird blood fetish sex and she ends up with swamp thing who she was really in love with all along...but the baby turns out to be mexican!

and wow did lautner beef up for this role...i'll wait for some psycho youtube fan girl to cut up the movie to show his best parts set to some bad Linkin Park song....that should be good enough...



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Prophet Izaach wrote:Fictional concepts, such as vampires, need not conform to any traditional views. Their definitions are at the hands of the writer. You can have the stereotypical vampire we've all come to know but if the author says it's not a vampire, it is NOT a vampire. If an author describes a creature that is hardly what we call a vampire, a vampire - it IS a vampire.

Let's take wizards for an example:

By Tolkien's definition, they are spirits who take aged human forms. They use staffs as their source of power:

But not according to Rowling. They're like us, who are born and age. They wield wands instead of staffs:


You might then be inclined to say that they both stay true to their associations with magic - which is almost synonymous to wizards. Let's take a different fictional creature, elves:



Or the fierce protectors of forests:

They can be the small creatures that help Santa for Christmas:

Or the fierce protectors of forests:

There's quite a large leap If you read more into elf lore you would know that small elfs do exist in the fictional world. in their differences, but how far can they go? It's all up to the writer's imagination. Take one last example - angels:

They can be the divine winged humans who service a deity,


Or, according to Evangelion, gigantic aliens who seek to destroy humanity:
They are named Angels, it is not implied in Evangelion that they are actual angels.

TL;DR:
Fictional entities are subject to their creators. Don't argue the author about it because whether you like it or not, you're wrong.
You have good points there. You can call something a vampire, wizard, zombie, elf, as much as you want, but if want said creature to be taken serously as a vampire, wizard, zombie, elf you do not destroy what makes it that creature. Atleast not without explaning why. Edward drinks deer blood and glistens in the sun, yea that is what I call a real vampire.
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You missed my entire point of subjectivity. Small elves exist in the fictional world because they were made to exist. I never even said they don't. Again, if the author says so, then it has to be so. It doesn't matter whatever an "actual" angel is. They want to call them angels, they are angels.

Vampires drink blood. They can drink any kind of blood they want. The vampires of Anne Rice, the author of world-renowned vampire novels like Interview with the Vampire, The Vampire Lestat, and Queen of the Damned, are similar to those of in Twilight. Her vampires do not drink human blood alone. Lestat, in one of her books, drinks rat's blood when he tries to suppress his thirst for human blood. Glistening in the sun is also a trait in her books. Rice describes their pale skins to be reflective.

It is not enough to discredit Edward as a vampire based alone on his decision to drink animal blood and/or his skin's trait to glisten in the sun. Past authors have done it (with even more drastic changes) like Anne Rice. To dismiss Meyer's, you might also have to dismiss a myriad of characters we refer to as vampires.

The fictional world, like ours, would be pretty boring if you can't make any changes.
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offtopic: Alucard FTW...
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Prophet Izaach wrote:You missed my entire point of subjectivity. Small elves exist in the fictional world because they were made to exist. I never even said they don't. Again, if the author says so, then it has to be so. It doesn't matter whatever an "actual" angel is. They want to call them angels, they are angels. Yes if they want to be call angels go ahead, but if you waant to make them angels you cannot ignore the concept of an angel.

Vampires drink blood. They can drink any kind of blood they want. I've never said they can't drink any other blood then human The vampires of Anne Rice, the author of world-renowned vampire novels like Interview with the Vampire, The Vampire Lestat, and Queen of the Damned, are similar to those of in Twilight. Her vampires do not drink human blood alone. Lestat, in one of her books, drinks rat's blood when he tries to suppress his thirst for human blood. Yes, but it is not animale blood only that he lives on. Glistening in the sun is also a trait in her books. Which book is this trait feature. Rice describes their pale skins to be reflective.

It is not enough to discredit Edward as a vampire based alone on his decision to drink animal blood and/or his skin's trait to glisten in the sun. Edward's decision to drink animal blood, I could care less, his ability to survive only on deer blood "without any do explanation" is what discredits his vampiric image. Past authors have done it (with even more drastic changes) like Anne Rice. You cannot even start to compare Anne Rice to Meyer, Anne's characters have very deep and detailed historys as to why they are like they are, unlike Edward. To dismiss Meyer's, you might also have to dismiss a myriad of characters we refer to as vampires.

The fictional world, like ours, would be pretty boring if you can't make any changes. Again I do not advocate that a vampire or any other creature can't be change or upgraded, you just can't destroy the basis of said creature without good reasoning and expect it to be taken serously.
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I did not bring up Rice's vampires to make a full comparison with Meyer's. I only brought up specific points such as their source of blood and their skins' appearance, to make a point that these specific characteristics are not unique to the vampires of Twilight.

In Rice's vampire universe, vampires have the option to drink animal blood, but compared to human blood, it is less nutritious and lack an essential protein. In Meyer's vampire universe, I have no knowledge. I have never read any of the Twilight books so I do not know if there is an explanation as to why Edward can live only from deer blood. Can he really live "without any due explanation" as you said so? Is this explanation really essential for Edward to hold the title of vampire? Essential to who? Again, everything is subject to the author's mind.

The glistening vampire skin is described in Rice's Interview and Lestat. I've never read Queen of the Damned but since it's on the same trilogy, it can easily be assumed.

Then what are the general traits of a vampire? Who says these traits are set in stone?

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mortals called them wizards, in reality the Maiar know exactly what they are....the Maiar...they have more in common with angels than wizards....

There are different types of elves. Forest elves, shoe elves, river elves. They vary from type to type and most of the time the only common factor between them is some connection to night, magic, and point ears. The point here is that an Elf is a term that has become common for creatures who once shared completely different names depending on occupation, designation, and origin. Clumping them all under the word elf is more a modern thing than when their stories originated....

As for Angels, in Evangelion they are angels in name alone. The anime took many liberties with christian mythology and no if someone asked me to draw an angel i'd draw the nice thing with wings not the monstrous ugly thing. Those things are not to be taken as actual representations of angels any more than Rei was the actual clone thing of Lilith...


Going by you way of thinking i strap a dead goats head to a dog and call it an angel and just because im saying its an angel it would automatically be a credible representation of an angel...no, it doesn't work like that.

Angels are those ghey things with wings, thats established.
Wizards are people who can use magic, thats established.
Elves depend on the culture.

Vampires feed on human blood, cannot go into sunlight(exceptions depending on their power), are creatures of the night...etc...all thats established, there are vampires, then there is this 16 year olds interpretation of vampires via a love story...he doesn't count as a vampire anymore than Neon Angels count as actual angels....
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