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ThiefzV2 wrote:
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have u ever thought cuz they are malnourish and hungry themselves too cuz the government spends all their money on the militiary or to enrich themselves

This is most likely a sad fact. It horriable that it comes down to something like that though.


of course its a fact. look at the pictures of the north korean army or the african army. they are all skinny and bones showing. the military wouldn't seize the food if there are enuf to go round... obviously... dont know why people make ignorant argument like that without thinking.

if theres enuf food they wouldn't care seizing food.. that'd be stupid and waste of time


Stupid or not it happens... Unfortunatly we all have to deal with this...
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i hate when people give stats that have absolutely no backing
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crazyskwrls wrote:mmmm
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i hate when people give stats that have absolutely no backing

Yet I don't see you backing up this sentence...
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For every vegetarian I know, I eat three times the amount of meat I normally would. They should be ashamed.
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tell me u can back up the 10% thing or the 1% thing

i love steak - fact
u are pulling stats from ur asses - fact
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dom wrote:For every vegetarian I know, I eat three times the amount of meat I normally would. They should be ashamed.

I belivie this would be considered a personal choice... Therefore why would Vegetarians be ashamed of something you did? Just trying to point that out... No rudeness intended... I just don't think anyone should be ashamed of that... Once again that's my veiw on it.

tell me u can back up the 10% thing or the 1% thing

i love steak - fact
u are pulling stats from ur asses - fact

Your maturity is overwhelming... Please by all means eat what you wish. I have no doubt that you like steak. However I have a feeling you probably don't know anything about these stats that you keep asking for.

It's just basic common sense most of it. There are starving people in this world. I would love the idea that if every meat eater would give up 10 percent meat that it would feed the world. However I have nothing to back that up with. One reason for that is because I did not write that to begin with although I love the concept. Second reason is because I honestly don't keep up with goes on over seas... I tend to overlook issues such as those.

But please be on notice if I do find something to back up the 10% thing I will for sure post it. :)
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your completely ignorant of these "logical" stats

most of the first world countries pay farmers not to grow food and they will throw away any food surplus
they rather throw away these food rather than give it to anyone who needs it
if u stop eating, they throw more shit away, ur not helping anyone
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Fabricated wrote:
It's just basic common sense most of it. There are starving people in this world. I would love the idea that if every meat eater would give up 10 percent meat that it would feed the world. However I have nothing to back that up with. One reason for that is because I did not write that to begin with although I love the concept. Second reason is because I honestly don't keep up with goes on over seas... I tend to overlook issues such as those.

But please be on notice if I do find something to back up the 10% thing I will for sure post it. :)



I think what you're thinking of is probably something someone came up with after reading PETA's release of numbers that said something about how it takes 10 times (?) the amount of grain to raise cattle than it does to feed the same amount of food to a person.

However, that's over looking the reality that we don't have an issue with lack of resources, but that developing countries are not properly using their resources. Many countries in Africa are only using a small portion of their arable land:

Spoiler!


The solution to world hunger is helping developing nations build proper infrastructure and give them the information and technology to cultivate the land in sustainable ways. Another big issue, especially for developing countries that have progressed further and have exploding populations, is their unsustainable agricultural practices. Slash and burn works for a small population, but when you use the same method and your population has doubled, there's going to be a problem with the regeneration of forests and transfer of nutrients to the soil.

But with that comes another problem: the uncooperative and irresponsible governments of politically unstable nations. When you hand funds meant to develop social services and infrastructure, and it's spent on rifles and drug production, it's not being very well spent

crazyskwrls wrote:your completely ignorant of these "logical" stats

most of the first world countries pay farmers not to grow food and they will throw away any food surplus
they rather throw away these food rather than give it to anyone who needs it
if u stop eating, they throw more shit away, ur not helping anyone


The reason they throw away food is to protect our agricultural industry. Even though, if taken at face value, it seems wasteful; it's in fact better for us as a nation.
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DeathBeforeDishonor wrote:Before I talk this is not flaming or ment to start flaming but seriously..

If god wanted us to eat meat why are all but 4 of our teeth designed similar to cows
which are best for eating vegetables ect..

If god wanted us to eat meat then why does it raise the cancer rate?

If god wanted us to eat meat then why is becoming vegan the single most effective thing
you can do to prevent global warming and many other environmental problems?

Once again, if he did then why are vegetarians on average 10-30% less fat?

Why do vegetarians/vegans have a lower chance of getting heart disease, diabetes, cancer, stroke, heart attack and other crappy things?

Just because someone offers something doesn't mean you have to take it, even if god said
it's good to eat animals or what ever.


Why are you so stupid you would get cut over someone beating their dog or cat when every time
you eat you funded someone to inflict ALOT more pain on a cow, pig, chicken ect..

Answer me those, maturely don't give me lame as answers I'd expect from a 10yr old.

Also think about this next time you have bacon
http://getactive.peta.org/campaign/iowa_pigfarm_abuse2

Go on youtube and look up "meet your meat"

Just because someone has a heart and chooses vegetarianism or veganism doesn't mean you
should put them down, least they stand up for what they believe and try to make a change.


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Whereas:
More than 98 percent of convicted felons are bread users.
Fully HALF of all children who grow up in bread-consuming households score below average on standardized tests.
In the 18th century, when virtually all bread was baked in the home, the average life expectancy was less than 50 years; infant mortality rates were unacceptably high; many women died in childbirth; and diseases such as typhoid, yellow fever, and influenza ravaged whole nations.
More than 90 percent of violent crimes are committed within 24 hours of eating bread.
Bread is made from a substance called "dough." It has been proven that as little as one pound of dough can be used to suffocate a mouse. The average American eats more bread than that in one month!
Primitive tribal societies that have no bread exhibit a low incidence of cancer, Alzheimer's, Parkinson's disease, and osteoporosis.
Bread has been proven to be addictive. Subjects deprived of bread and given only water to eat begged for bread after as little as two days.
Bread is often a "gateway" food item, leading the user to "harder" items such as butter, jelly, peanut butter, and even cold cuts.
Bread has been proven to absorb water. Since the human body is more than 90 percent water, it follows that eating bread could lead to your body being taken over by this absorptive food product, turning you into a soggy, gooey bread-pudding person.
Newborn babies can choke on bread.
Bread is baked at temperatures as high as 400 degrees Fahrenheit! That kind of heat can kill an adult in less than one minute.
Most American bread eaters are utterly unable to distinguish between significant scientific fact and meaningless statistical babbling.
Therefore:
In light of these frightening statistics, we propose the following bread restrictions:
No sale of bread to minors.
A nationwide "Just Say No To Toast" campaign, with complete celebrity TV spots and bumper stickers.
A 300 percent federal tax on all bread to pay for all the societal ills we might associate with bread.
No animal or human images, nor any primary colors (which may appeal to children) may be used to promote bread usage.
The establishment of "Bread-free" zones around schools.
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izmeister wrote:
DeathBeforeDishonor wrote:Before I talk this is not flaming or ment to start flaming but seriously..

If god wanted us to eat meat why are all but 4 of our teeth designed similar to cows
which are best for eating vegetables ect..

If god wanted us to eat meat then why does it raise the cancer rate?

If god wanted us to eat meat then why is becoming vegan the single most effective thing
you can do to prevent global warming and many other environmental problems?

Once again, if he did then why are vegetarians on average 10-30% less fat?

Why do vegetarians/vegans have a lower chance of getting heart disease, diabetes, cancer, stroke, heart attack and other crappy things?

Just because someone offers something doesn't mean you have to take it, even if god said
it's good to eat animals or what ever.


Why are you so stupid you would get cut over someone beating their dog or cat when every time
you eat you funded someone to inflict ALOT more pain on a cow, pig, chicken ect..

Answer me those, maturely don't give me lame as answers I'd expect from a 10yr old.

Also think about this next time you have bacon
http://getactive.peta.org/campaign/iowa_pigfarm_abuse2

Go on youtube and look up "meet your meat"

Just because someone has a heart and chooses vegetarianism or veganism doesn't mean you
should put them down, least they stand up for what they believe and try to make a change.


And if god does not exist?



If God wanted our ancestors to discover fire, be able to cook their food, easily consume more protein, and aid the evolution process in developing our frontal lobe (thus making us what we are)... wait nevermind. That's evolution, God has nothing to do with it.
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crazyskwrls wrote:your completely ignorant of these "logical" stats

most of the first world countries pay farmers not to grow food and they will throw away any food surplus
they rather throw away these food rather than give it to anyone who needs it
if u stop eating, they throw more shit away, ur not helping anyone


While I may agree with your statement, it's not that they would rather throw it away, it is that it becomes more costly to package/identify/ship the food in a usable form to affected countries. Then add in the previous problem, i.e. certain regimes are not set up to handle/accept food, or store it, or distribute it, and certain regimes will simply not accept the help, or they will simply steal it and use it for their own ends.

We have more than enough food in the US today. I was brought up to eat everything on my plate so as not to waste it. You want to change something, cook less food, take longer to eat it, etc.

We would have to change our entire way of life to be simpler. But due to the American stressed-out, rush rush rush, work/eat/play hard, time becomes a factor and we don't do what we should. That, and not everyone in the US likes the idea of spending money and time to help someone overseas when we have our own problems (currently, huge problems in the financial industry and our economy). This also spreads out further and makes us all consumers, rather than producers. Thus the lack of acceptance of an electric car, which has been available and doable since the 1980's.

There is no one simple solution. Some people prefer not to eat meat. That's fine. I can't change my work/eating habits enough, so I eat it (although probably less than others). Moderation is something that - while it's not frowned upon - doesn't seem to exist well in the US.
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crazyskwrls wrote:In the 18th century, when virtually all bread was baked in the home, the average life expectancy was less than 50 years; infant mortality rates were unacceptably high; many women died in childbirth; and diseases such as typhoid, yellow fever, and influenza ravaged whole nations.


Yeah. And in the 18th century it would be another 100 years before we'd even start to use toilet paper.

I don't think your argument is credible.
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crazyskwrls wrote:Whereas:
More than 98 percent of convicted felons are bread users.
Fully HALF of all children who grow up in bread-consuming households score below average on standardized tests.
In the 18th century, when virtually all bread was baked in the home, the average life expectancy was less than 50 years; infant mortality rates were unacceptably high; many women died in childbirth; and diseases such as typhoid, yellow fever, and influenza ravaged whole nations.
More than 90 percent of violent crimes are committed within 24 hours of eating bread.
Bread is made from a substance called "dough." It has been proven that as little as one pound of dough can be used to suffocate a mouse. The average American eats more bread than that in one month!
Primitive tribal societies that have no bread exhibit a low incidence of cancer, Alzheimer's, Parkinson's disease, and osteoporosis.
Bread has been proven to be addictive. Subjects deprived of bread and given only water to eat begged for bread after as little as two days.
Bread is often a "gateway" food item, leading the user to "harder" items such as butter, jelly, peanut butter, and even cold cuts.
Bread has been proven to absorb water. Since the human body is more than 90 percent water, it follows that eating bread could lead to your body being taken over by this absorptive food product, turning you into a soggy, gooey bread-pudding person.
Newborn babies can choke on bread.
Bread is baked at temperatures as high as 400 degrees Fahrenheit! That kind of heat can kill an adult in less than one minute.
Most American bread eaters are utterly unable to distinguish between significant scientific fact and meaningless statistical babbling.
Therefore:
In light of these frightening statistics, we propose the following bread restrictions:
No sale of bread to minors.
A nationwide "Just Say No To Toast" campaign, with complete celebrity TV spots and bumper stickers.
A 300 percent federal tax on all bread to pay for all the societal ills we might associate with bread.
No animal or human images, nor any primary colors (which may appeal to children) may be used to promote bread usage.
The establishment of "Bread-free" zones around schools.


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This thread is EPIC LOLz.

if u are going to make an argument, please make a sound and logical one with any fallacies. ty very much. have a great day.

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dom wrote:
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It's just basic common sense most of it. There are starving people in this world. I would love the idea that if every meat eater would give up 10 percent meat that it would feed the world. However I have nothing to back that up with. One reason for that is because I did not write that to begin with although I love the concept. Second reason is because I honestly don't keep up with goes on over seas... I tend to overlook issues such as those.

But please be on notice if I do find something to back up the 10% thing I will for sure post it. :)



I think what you're thinking of is probably something someone came up with after reading PETA's release of numbers that said something about how it takes 10 times (?) the amount of grain to raise cattle than it does to feed the same amount of food to a person.

However, that's over looking the reality that we don't have an issue with lack of resources, but that developing countries are not properly using their resources. Many countries in Africa are only using a small portion of their arable land:

Spoiler!


The solution to world hunger is helping developing nations build proper infrastructure and give them the information and technology to cultivate the land in sustainable ways. Another big issue, especially for developing countries that have progressed further and have exploding populations, is their unsustainable agricultural practices. Slash and burn works for a small population, but when you use the same method and your population has doubled, there's going to be a problem with the regeneration of forests and transfer of nutrients to the soil.

But with that comes another problem: the uncooperative and irresponsible governments of politically unstable nations. When you hand funds meant to develop social services and infrastructure, and it's spent on rifles and drug production, it's not being very well spent

crazyskwrls wrote:your completely ignorant of these "logical" stats

most of the first world countries pay farmers not to grow food and they will throw away any food surplus
they rather throw away these food rather than give it to anyone who needs it
if u stop eating, they throw more shit away, ur not helping anyone


The reason they throw away food is to protect our agricultural industry. Even though, if taken at face value, it seems wasteful; it's in fact better for us as a nation.


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ThiefzV2 wrote:This thread is EPIC LOLz.

if u are going to make an argument, please make a sound and logical one with any fallacies. ty very much. have a great day.

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Cruor wrote:
ThiefzV2 wrote:This thread is EPIC LOLz.

if u are going to make an argument, please make a sound and logical one with any fallacies. ty very much. have a great day.

kthanxbye
Your entire argument is a false dilemma.


u havent respond to my reply to you reply about the starving military personnel... why?
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ThiefzV2 wrote:u havent respond to my reply to you reply about the starving military personnel... why?
Because you don't seem to understand the logic behind military regimes. Take everything you can, and if you don't need it sell it or trade it for weapons. A gun can be worth a lot more than food.
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wait so when did world hunger come out from a discussion about how the jokes would b "offensive" to vegetarians? personally i just laugh at the jokes. Its not like i'ma vegetarian i just dont like meat =\. I also like my animalz but thats besides the point.

i just dont like how veggies are saying " WE PR0NZ U No0B "
and then the people who like meaties are like " Y U SAY U PR0NZ NOOP LIARZ, WE PR0N! "

a bit sad on both of your parts :P

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Cruor wrote:
ThiefzV2 wrote:u havent respond to my reply to you reply about the starving military personnel... why?
Because you don't seem to understand the logic behind military regimes. Take everything you can, and if you don't need it sell it or trade it for weapons. A gun can be worth a lot more than food.



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magisuns wrote:wait so when did world hunger come out from a discussion about how the jokes would b "offensive" to vegetarians? personally i just laugh at the jokes. Its not like i'ma vegetarian i just dont like meat =\. I also like my animalz but thats besides the point.

i just dont like how veggies are saying " WE PR0NZ U No0B "
and then the people who like meaties are like " Y U SAY U PR0NZ NOOP LIARZ, WE PR0N! "

a bit sad on both of your parts :P


A bit sad of you to not support healthy discussion, especially when revolving important international issues that are pressed for resolve. But I guess jokes are important too.

And lol @ thiefz, what kind of half assed reply was that. Again, I must use the reply I just made concerning one of his posts.


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vivien wrote:Whats with all the animal activist bashing?

the moment you try limiting other people's right for your beliefs you get a little something i like to call sword to the face
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Has it ever occured to you that man is neither? We're omnivores.

Besides, it's just nature. We're on top of the foodchain, that's just how it works.
Do you bash on wolves as well, telling them the poor rabbits feel pain when they're being shredded to pieces?

Anyways, the taste of steak is just too good to become a vegetarian. I also don't feel a lot of pity for animals. I care for the taste, which should be good.
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I have a feeling eating meat lowers IQ to.. Some of you guys
are absolutely STUPID, I don't care that you eat meat and
stuff even though to me it's wrong.. But you guys are just
so idiotic and ignorant :P Not all of you, some.

PS. We are not omnivores, we aren't carnivores, we aren't
herbivores.. We are what we choose to be..

And meat DOES not give cancer but increase the growth speed
by around 50%.. Google there's countless places that will
say so to.

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Some of us live life to the fullest, got a problem go cry in the corner? I'll do what I want. you want to save starving people go ahead. Leave my food out of this retardedness.
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If you weren't an idiot you would have noticed I said earlier that I don't care if you eat
meat even if I think it's wrong, I'm not trying to push my will but I'm putting the facts
out there. Shut up, your an idiot. Learn to read..

And living life to the fullest means eat meat? If that's the greatest thing you got going
in your life then go outside. Don't start flaming I'm just saying.. Eating isn't the most
exciting thing ever, I mean there's lots of other activities and stuff to do.. Try sport?

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lol, living life to the fullest means doing all that u can and want. eating meat's just one of the fun shit u can do.

no, we are omnivores. we can process plants AND meat. iono what ..... up stomach u have if u get sick by eating meat :roll: prolly the same shit that makes u slit ur wrist every morning amirite?
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I slit my wrists now do I? Eating isn't fun to me so shut up don't give me your c**p because
I choose a different lifestyle and I have a backbone and actually am not to scared to not be
"normal" with my choices but rather do what's right for me. Don't act tough on the net because
you know we will almost certainly never meet, stop talking yourself up it's weak man. Lets
be civil, if not go away because your bringing SRF down with your flaming and insults.. It's
not what we are here for. So recon we can just be civil and talk without insults and all that?

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lol. He casts the demon out,yet invites him straight back in.
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