My thoughts that really dont matter, but o well.

[Fuhito]

Its like this.

Botters are like lepers.

At first everyone is like, "EWE! LEPERS!"

Then some ppl are like, "OMG My best butt buddy is a leper, accept lepers nao"

So the lepers start circulating with everyone else and infecting the general population.

Then someone comes along and says, "Hey, there is already like a million leper colonies! Instead of being here with us, let the lepers go over there!"

That guy who's butt buddy is a leper is like, "DISCRIMINATION AGAINST LEPERS!"

But in the interest of public safety, everyone starts hunting down the lepers and sending them packing for the greater good. Sure, the community will be smaller for a minute, but fortunately there is a steady stream of shiny clean new members all the time to replace them.

The end.

Nice story, huh?

Too bad it's completely wrong. Botters on this forum never persuaded other people to bot on such a scale if at all. Most of the botters banned hardly posted, and the two active users that have been exposed and banned have never engaged or brought up their in game habits or even alluded to it. The new incoming people will not have their in game information so no one will know who that is botting in game. They will still be closet botters and GD will only become an even more retarded cesspool of quote pyramids, should I go a + higher, and traffic bitching threads.

The story should be more like this:

A KKK member comes into a town and demands anyone who isn't white be removed so they don't have the temptation to commit racist acts, but the KKK member is blind so he randomly burns crosses on anyone's lawn. Now a good community is destroyed as the non whites are kicked out and the KKK member is still burning crosses blindly 'cause he believes some non whites are moving back into town.

Fin~

When you're banning people that have been such outstanding members of the community that you left them in charge of it, but you turn around and go, "Hey thanks for doing such a great job, really you did it swell.. NOW GET THE **** OUT!" Don't you think something is wrong?

[raged!]

whats the point of this ?

sro is a botters game, and sadly joymax allows botting.

the koreans,chinese, etc all have botters and joymax doesnt care.

botting is good for joymax, because when u think about it who would play a game where you grind 20 hrs a day killing the same shit over and over just to get 30% exp? and then in the end spend another 20 hrs a day for 2 month just so you can have farmed skills. and do i have to add in the lame shit quest? kill 1000 flowers x3, kill 1.7k snipes/hunts x3 ETC.

and moreover, in 90, 100, 120 cap who would stay around for that if there was no bot? and have you seen the sp table? lvl 100 skills cost 10k or more SP to raise, rofl i dont even think the hardcore koreans who lives in their parents basement would be up for that.

[borat2]

I may not agree with What there doing however i don't have much say. All i am doing is bringing up the fact that HEY this problem was here since day 1, and By taking away experience members without new ones will leave avoid that i think will never be filled. You can Look in GD rate now and find at least 10 threads of people making stupid replies that aren't even relavent to the topic that was posted, than you have to even more stupid who take there time to point this out, which than gets the first idiot to comment on it (Ah the cycle of idiots at SRF) This is what it has been like for a while now, and now that you are banning botters, most of the ones who had an I.Q to post a interest or intelligent reply are banned. So By at what cost i mean, yes were getting rid of bots, but the forum will suffer greatly. Who knows i may be wrong, or i may be right. As i said time will tell.

i am afraid nothing will change, there are enough proxies out there don't think SRF can ban them all.
compare this to that guy with 30 accounts running, you might have him as your friend on one char but find his other char a total asshole

the only thing that probably will be lost is a memory of an user name.

[tyfly]

I may not agree with What there doing however i don't have much say. All i am doing is bringing up the fact that HEY this problem was here since day 1, and By taking away experience members without new ones will leave avoid that i think will never be filled. You can Look in GD rate now and find at least 10 threads of people making stupid replies that aren't even relavent to the topic that was posted, than you have to even more stupid who take there time to point this out, which than gets the first idiot to comment on it (Ah the cycle of idiots at SRF) This is what it has been like for a while now, and now that you are banning botters, most of the ones who had an I.Q to post a interest or intelligent reply are banned. So By at what cost i mean, yes were getting rid of bots, but the forum will suffer greatly. Who knows i may be wrong, or i may be right. As i said time will tell.

i am afraid nothing will change, there are enough proxies out there don't think SRF can ban them all.
compare this to that guy with 30 accounts running, you might have him as your friend on one char but find his other char a total asshole

the only thing that probably will be lost is a memory of an user name.

which is why don't see the point in all this just causing the forum to look like a mess and if anything is losing legits in the process who are fed up with the lack of intelligent post on this forum. Things change, people change, Guess SRF is changing don't know if its going to improve to be good or not.

[TOloseGT]

less botters, couldn't be better.

lack of intelligent posts my ass. u'r not looking hard enough. many long time posters here don't even play nemore. if this "chaos" is too much for u, just leave, don't have to whine and bitch about it. leave the pent up energy for something worthy of ur time.

[Stallowned]

Am I the only one finding it weird that vindicator is talking so much sh1t about bot hunting when he was the one running all the mods through google?

I couldn't really care less either way if bots are here or not, not only do I not play the game anymore but I'm not a mod either so I have no involvement.

The problem I have is that there is substantial evidcence that Sylhanna at the very least aided botters or facilitated botting (guild or not, it is the same result in the end.) To me that is almost if not equivalent to botting.

It is like if I went around the neighborhood telling all the kids wehre to find the local drug dealer when they come off of the school bus. When the drug enforcement branch of the PD comes investigating in the neighborhood don't you think they're gonna punish me for my actions?

I know it's your forum Ryoko, SG.. Key-J? But having proof that a moderator acted as a middleman between botters and the bots and letting it slide, in the middle of a "war on bots" doesn't really stand up very well. If it was just a common no name user, it wouldn't matter that much but mods should represent the forum and what it stands for.

Just sayin'

[XemnasXD]

the evidence against syl type of evidence against crumpets and the mods have already decided that the evidence against crumpets was insufficient so syl should no longer be a discussion and the topic against him should be locked at this point...

[Stallowned]

the evidence against syl type of evidence against crumpets and the mods have already decided that the evidence against crumpets was insufficient so syl should no longer be a discussion and the topic against him should be locked at this point...

THe difference is that he acknowledged he was the one that posted all the s1t therefore he was aiding botters.

[XuChu]

THe difference is that he acknowledged he was the one that posted all the s1t therefore he was aiding botters.

<<Image removed, quit the nazi crap asap - MrBow>>

[XemnasXD]

the evidence against syl type of evidence against crumpets and the mods have already decided that the evidence against crumpets was insufficient so syl should no longer be a discussion and the topic against him should be locked at this point...

THe difference is that he acknowledged he was the one that posted all the s1t therefore he was aiding botters.

crumpets excuse was the same as Ito's. It may have been my account but i wasn't using it. Ito's excuse didn't hold up so neither should crumpets. But the mods have said there was insufficient evidence against crumpets so that should mean insufficient evidence against syl. yeah i know itos evidence was more incriminating cause there were vids but you get what im saying hopefully...

@XuChu ITS NOT REAL GERMAN!!

[Stallowned]

This has nothing to do with crumpets or ito.

Sylhana said HE posted that. Crumpets/ito said they weren't the ones who botted/posted.

[XuChu]

@XuChu ITS NOT REAL GERMAN!!

Who cares Nazi's need to be ignorant, I think my spam using of the umlaut is depicting that quite well.

[Crumpets]

crumpets excuse was the same as Ito's. It may have been my account but i wasn't using it. Ito's excuse didn't hold up so neither should crumpets. But the mods have said there was insufficient evidence against crumpets so that should mean insufficient evidence against syl. yeah i know itos evidence was more incriminating cause there were vids but you get what im saying hopefully...

@XuChu ITS NOT REAL GERMAN!!

No I shall not be your homo lover.

[XemnasXD]

crumpets excuse was the same as Ito's. It may have been my account but i wasn't using it. Ito's excuse didn't hold up so neither should crumpets. But the mods have said there was insufficient evidence against crumpets so that should mean insufficient evidence against syl. yeah i know itos evidence was more incriminating cause there were vids but you get what im saying hopefully...

@XuChu ITS NOT REAL GERMAN!!

No I shall not be your homo lover.

you wouldn't have the time 137 just this week your on a roll. Besides i doubt your man enough to handle me anyway the way you b1tch up and down this place, and i don't date ppl who live off their parents at the age of 21....thats just sad ya know

[ping_lo]

a bunch of stuff

What is your point?

Bots shouldn't be banned if they're nice?

I disagree.

Thankfully, SG disagrees also.

Banhammer's priority target should be idiots, botter is to vague, see? mod and loved people fit in this category.

So you are saying......nay screaming "BAN ME" then? Botter is botter. It is not vague. It is not hard.

was syl a nuisance? god no he was actually really nice and helpful, who's happy he got banned?

Perhaps no one. Guess what though. He can only blame himself. Neat eh?

problem is: it's harder to proove someone's an idiot than a botter.

Not so. Idiots are some of the easiest to spot.

Lets see SRF does not ban and turns a blind eye. Botters go "lolz you hypocrites have botters as GMs" etc. SRF bans botters indiscriminatly and they and their sympathizers go woe is us have mercy on us poor botters and gold buyers. LOL sorry all out of mercy and good will. This forum has always been for legitimate players and topics. It's not like botting is something you have no choice in. It is a choice and choices have consequences. You wanna send someone on a guilt trip you are not going to find any takers here. No one is saying that these banned people are not nice. Rules are rules. Forum use implies consent. Violation has pretty well defined outcome. These people knew what they were doing. They know it is all on them trying to lie to us. You like being lied to?

If you wanna go somewhere where they still ignore the rules and don't care if you bot? Play SRO. Joymax does not run this forum. Nuff' said.

[Zing]

I find it hilarious that people are comparing the war on bots to racism such as KKK to a different ethnic.

There's a huge difference between the skin color on your back and botting. Are you ready? It's the choice. Man knows now that how you look like shouldn't be a way to judge people on who they are. We aren't given the choice to look the way we are naturally.

Botting gives you a choice. You choose to cheat, not because you're black, white, brown, or green. Not even Turkish, American, British, Japanese, Chinese, or some polar bear. You choose to cheat. And it just so happens that cheating is bad.

Though, there is something called redemption. To forgive. Someone who has turned away from the evils. Frankly, these types of people should be given a second chance.

[Crumpets]

you wouldn't have the time 137 just this week your on a roll. Besides i doubt your man enough to handle me anyway the way you b1tch up and down this place, and i don't date ppl who live off their parents at the age of 21....thats just sad ya know

Forgot how much you were bitching a bout me yesterday have you? Lol your such a grade A retard Xemnas, when will you realize ?

137 hours yup, obviously I've been playing the game 137 hours behind my pc and not stalling / skilling while I was at college / work right?

Lol you're quite a character Xemnas.

[XuChu]

I find it hilarious that people are comparing the war on bots to racism such as KKK to a different ethnic.

There's a huge difference between the skin color on your back and botting. Are you ready? It's the choice. Man knows now that how you look like shouldn't be a way to judge people on who they are. We aren't given the choice to look the way we are naturally.

Botting gives you a choice. You choose to cheat, not because you're black, white, brown, or green. Not even Turkish, American, British, Japanese, Chinese, or some polar bear. You choose to cheat. And it just so happens that cheating is bad.

Though, there is something called redemption. To forgive. Someone who has turned away from the evils. Frankly, these types of people should be given a second chance.

JA! Jübots chos to bee evil! Bastards against gods truth! No fear brother! The time of cleansing has come!

[Priam]

@Xemnas, you bloody retard get out of Crumpet's case. the DIFFERENCE between him and Ito is the evidence. Reading comprehension. Hell it's not even reading. At ito's case sufficient screenshots of her botting we're provided. None we're submitted in Crumpet's case, which leads to insufficient evidence. HOW hard is it to understand that. You might have a personal Vete, keep it out of this.

For the OP and the rest. Everyone always hated botters and wanted them gone. Sadly Joymax doesnt do anything, and we can't change that. We can however keep them out of our forums. Don't be dissapointed in the forum for banning your friends for taking up to illegal action, be dissapointed in your friends. They chose to take up several illegal things, what goes around comes around.

It's not ethical to want every botter but your dear friends gone. get over it/

[Zing]

JA! Jübots chos to bee evil! Bastards against gods truth! No fear brother! The time of cleansing has come!

Jawohl, mein herr!

[XemnasXD]

Priam, plz, your fanboy is showing. I already acknowledged the fact that into had alot more evidence against her only i mentioned the vids not the SS....i get it you love crumpets but i think his lack of thought process is wearing off onto you...your right though this isn't the place and i digress....

[Priam]

Priam, plz, your fanboy is showing. I already acknowledged the fact that into had alot more evidence against her only i mentioned the vids not the SS....i get it you love crumpets but i think his lack of thought process is wearing off onto you...

For all i know, Crumpet's is my fanboy =) And like i said before, if he botted, he should be banned, just give us solid proof, which you can't.

As for my love for him, i'd rather have him on this forum then you. It's not just in the last days, it has been quite a while on this forum where i have been reading your sometimes biased, not very well thought out, heavily opinionated posts. And i hate the fact that you cannot be wrong according to your massive defenses. You keep on bashin on everybody's cases, for what goal? i don't know, at the moment it might be: 'to annoy'. You're not the smart one, you're the annoying one. Every post you made thusfar, laked a solid base of everything but your own ' not to mess with' opinion.

[XuChu]

Unite! It's the age of purging jübots and botsheviks not each other.
Though I agree with some bits

[heroo]

There really should be a separation between the game and the forum.

SO what if Luoma bots? Does it really infect your life? You can't sleep when you go to bed cuz someone else is botting?

He helped out alot of people on this forum, and did not harm any.

He gets banned for botting on a server where maybe only 7/8 % of this forum plays on? And than the other 92/93 % goes: ' yeah ban him, ban him, he did us harm! '

Geezzz, people be cool, it's still only a freaking game.

The did us no harm, and they helped us out alot. Chill down people, someone botting isn't the end of the world and it certainly won't effec your life in any way.

You people always claim that botting is some form of treason? Well, this is no less treason than botting.

[Priam]

Heroo, when you look carefully at the URL, banner, multiple forums of this board.

Are you able to find the link between this forum and the actual game?

If you can, you have passed first grade, and your next assignment will be to write an essay about how wrong your last post was. A botting mod, on a forum of silkroad? get some sleep.

[XuChu]

There really should be a separation between the game and the forum.

SO what if Luoma bots? Does it really infect your life? You can't sleep when you go to bed cuz someone else is botting?

He helped out alot of people on this forum, and did not harm any.

He gets banned for botting on a server where maybe only 7/8 % of this forum plays on? And than the other 92/93 % goes: ' yeah ban him, ban him, he did us harm! '

Geezzz, people be cool, it's still only a freaking game.

The did us no harm, and they helped us out alot. Chill down people, someone botting isn't the end of the world and it certainly won't effec your life in any way.

You people always claim that botting is some form of treason? Well, this is no less treason than botting.

The price of revolution is the price of blood!

<Serious tone> Yeah Luoma should be unbanned, but us saying it won't do shit so just enjoy the drama. </serious tone>

[heroo]

The price of revolution is the price of blood!

<Serious tone> Yeah Luoma should be unbanned, but us saying it won't do shit so just enjoy the drama. </serious tone>

sure, but the question is: is there a need for revolution? Do we really mind botters that hard on this forum? Do they effect this forum on a negative way?

[Priam]

yes.

[Zing]

sure, but the question is: is there a need for revolution? Do we really mind botters that hard on this forum? Do they effect this forum on a negative way?

Heroo, does a random act of killing from the opposite side of the world effect you?

[XemnasXD]

I was going to make a long well thought post about how a post and why i post but f*ck it.

Don't like what i have to say, BLOCK ME. Don't agree with my opinions, DON'T READ THEM. Think im acting retarded, DON'T RESPOND.

simple isn't it. Believe me i completely ignore the cheer-leading squad when it comes to stuff like this so don't expect me to acknowledge anything you have to say on the issue of crumpets from now on.

you have a problem with me, tough. Don't expect me to care though.