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XuChu wrote:
XemnasXD wrote:believe me if its rape its about control or exerting a feeling of power and dominance....if they wanted sex find a prostitute, no prostitutes then jerk-off im sure im not the only guy whose gone over a partners house expecting to get lucky and leaving with blue balls...i didn't turn around and rape em....

Solider occupying areas will have feeling of superiority and normally demand respect from local populace often times expecting the people to go through degrading acts just to show them whose in charge rape is one of those acts but theres alot worse.

Thats completely different than comrades, your own men and women who you fight side by side with. Like i said before i can't think of any situation where a right minded soldier would think he needs to show a girl whose in charge so badly he'd rape her. Im not saying its impossible it just won't be nearly as rampant as you make it sound like it will. And if it does happen the solider can and should expect harsh punishment to follow.

Yes war can eff with peoples minds and yes you can end up doing things you'd never thought you'd do but that doesn't mean men become monsters. I'll ask you, if you were pinned down by the enemy or lost with your unit and feeling randy would you rape the only female soldier there just because....a person who would let it go that far probably has issues from the start...


I never said it would be in masses, but instead even one or two rapes will have devastating effects. Do not remember to check your doors and windows are shut every night before you sleep when a neighbour just got murdered at night? Remember these women are conscripted, they did not volunteer. They arrive to unwillingly 'serve their country' and 1 guy raped another girl. If you were a girl you would feel completely trusting to these men? War raping is often not a one-man thing either.

But I can see where you're coming from with the dominance thing however I do not believe that is the case for many of them, just Vietnam for example the thousands of fatherless accidental children left by their American fathers I do not see how it can be a dominance thing.



you do realize there were thousands of Vietnamese prostitutes who took advantage of the occupation. Not to mention the broken promises US soldiers probably made to women promising them a new life blah blah blah and all they'd have to do was put out...happens all the time...

Again you give women less credit than they're owed. Any smart women is always cautious of the way they act around men especially if they are working in a mostly male field, they take precautions with what they wear and how they act depending on the image they want to put out. Being aware of your environment is a smart move whether your male or female and only bimbos aren't aware of where they're at and what they're situation is at all times because anything can happen anywhere...you definitely don't need to be in the military to get raped.....in fact your chance are probably alot higher if your walking alone through a park...yet i don't see women trying to get parks banned....
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Cruor wrote:Who's going to build the tanks and raise the babies then?


Oh that's an easy one: Robots and TV!
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Itonami wrote:Really? I don't think I've ever heard of such a thing. I highly doubt MrFudge is registered,



ive been registered since the day i turned 18 lol.
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MrFudge wrote:
Itonami wrote:I highly doubt MrFudge is registered,



ive been registered since the day i turned 18 lol.

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Reise wrote:
Cruor wrote:Who's going to build the tanks and raise the babies then?


Oh that's an easy one: Robots and TV!


lolz

sadly the truth.
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ok there are many arguments here about womans screwing with the army dicipline etc that is bull you dont know how things are run in those places now i dont think womans should go to war or are of any use there couse they dont have in my opinion what i call killer instict and dont perform nearly as good as man so if they want to be useful they should take some of the job of man such as farming etc couse not being sexist there are limits or should i say a difference between strenghts between male and female
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I don't think anyone should be required to register for the selective service, regardless of gender. :roll:
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well if duty calls some1 has to do it and i think my response was kinda sloppy before what i meant to say is that womans shouldnt go to war like actually shotting and stuff but should register and support their country like everybody else you have no right to live in a place if you arent willing to protect it
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fena wrote:I disagree with women having to register with selective services, but for different reasons than what you stated, XuChu.
Call me old-fashioned, but I just don't like the idea of girls on the battlefield - atleast not the traditional image of the girl. Nono, I'm not sexist, but like Ito pointed out, I highly doubt that there are many girls that have the same physical capabilities of men without being just as ripped as them. And it's not that I don't want them fighting in war because I don't think they're physically capable, but it's that... I just don't like the entire idea of women fighting. If they want to help our country, there are so many other things that they could do instead of picking up a rifle and running through shooting and getting shot at.
To me, there's just a psychological difference in the way that I think. If my buddy got killed in war, bloody and dirty, it would hurt. If my buddy was a girl, and she got killed, bloody and dirty, I'd feel like something was wrong with the world.

Don't label me as sexist. To me, there's just a big difference from girls and women being CEOs and prime ministers, to picking up a gun and killing others, in the defense of their country. They just shouldn't do that, in my eyes. Leave it to the men - and not in a "macho" way, or a "women can't handle the stress of a battlefield, only men can" kind of way. More of a - "it'd break my heart to see a girl get shot" kind of way, no matter how tough she was; I don't think I could ever picture my girlfriend fighting in the army. I shudder to think what my emotions would be if she did end up fighting, and she got blown up in some sort of roadside bomb.

+1 I agree 100%...thanks for saving me the time of having to write it = ]

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JacksColon wrote:I don't think anyone should be required to register for the selective service, regardless of gender. :roll:


if it was for people like you no offense that are scare or unwilling to defend their way of life the world would be a crappy place
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Love wrote:
JacksColon wrote:I don't think anyone should be required to register for the selective service, regardless of gender. :roll:


if it was for people like you no offense that are scare or unwilling to defend their way of life the world would be a crappy place


Oh please, re-think that one and take other factors in considoration.
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Love wrote:
JacksColon wrote:I don't think anyone should be required to register for the selective service, regardless of gender. :roll:


if it was for people like you no offense that are scare or unwilling to defend their way of life the world would be a crappy place



so your saying if every soldier in the world friend and foe just decided the world wasn't worth fighting over and put down their weapons the world would be an awful place...
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yup, which is why he needs to think it over.
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Love wrote:ok there are many arguments here about womans screwing with the army dicipline etc that is bull you dont know how things are run in those places now i dont think womans should go to war or are of any use there couse they dont have in my opinion what i call killer instict and dont perform nearly as good as man so if they want to be useful they should take some of the job of man such as farming etc couse not being sexist there are limits or should i say a difference between strenghts between male and female

You say others don't know how things run you obviously don't either

Killer instinct? You think man are psychopathic or something
Reminds me, teacher said there was this documentary on the HC about how in WW2 only 10% of the soldiers actually open fire at an enemy and only 2% of that 10% shoot to kill. Now they say a large portion of that 2% are violent psychopaths. Most people die from grenades, artillery etc.

Women can be of equal use in war if men aren't the majority if you had any idea what you talked about you'd know. Israel is a major example, women make up a good number of Israel's army especially in management/admission and technical.
But under the circumstances that there are no men or men are an minority women can be excellent soldiers.

Discipline is one of the fundamental factors of war. Some argue that women& men do not drop discipline, however regardless of their opinion; No country will/have conscript/conscripted women as regulars in large numbers unless they are under extreme desperations.
Because sadly just like how girls distract boys from studying in co-ed schools they distract boys from concentrating on their service duties.

Love wrote:if it was for people like you no offense that are scare or unwilling to defend their way of life the world would be a crappy place


If people like you who thinks taking arms is necessary did not exist. No wars would exist.

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XemnasXD wrote:
Love wrote:
JacksColon wrote:I don't think anyone should be required to register for the selective service, regardless of gender. :roll:


if it was for people like you no offense that are scare or unwilling to defend their way of life the world would be a crappy place



so your saying if every soldier in the world friend and foe just decided the world wasn't worth fighting over and put down their weapons the world would be an awful place...


If they did that what would stop me from raiding an armory and stealing a tank? :D

I think the dude was correct in his statement.
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If dumbass McCain becomes president, he will allow selective service for men and women. He will bring back the draft, and I WILL move to canada.

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AvAlAnChE1 wrote:If dumbass McCain becomes president, he will allow selective service for men and women. He will bring back the draft, and I WILL move to canada.

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McCain will probably be assassinated and i'll come to Canada if he wins too :)
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XuChu wrote:
Love wrote:ok there are many arguments here about womans screwing with the army dicipline etc that is bull you dont know how things are run in those places now i dont think womans should go to war or are of any use there couse they dont have in my opinion what i call killer instict and dont perform nearly as good as man so if they want to be useful they should take some of the job of man such as farming etc couse not being sexist there are limits or should i say a difference between strenghts between male and female

You say others don't know how things run you obviously don't either

Killer instinct? You think man are psychopathic or something
Reminds me, teacher said there was this documentary on the HC about how in WW2 only 10% of the soldiers actually open fire at an enemy and only 2% of that 10% shoot to kill. Now they say a large portion of that 2% are violent psychopaths. Most people die from grenades, artillery etc.

Women can be of equal use in war if men aren't the majority if you had any idea what you talked about you'd know. Israel is a major example, women make up a good number of Israel's army especially in management/admission and technical.
But under the circumstances that there are no men or men are an minority women can be excellent soldiers.

Discipline is one of the fundamental factors of war. Some argue that women& men do not drop discipline, however regardless of their opinion; No country will/have conscript/conscripted women as regulars in large numbers unless they are under extreme desperations.
Because sadly just like how girls distract boys from studying in co-ed schools they distract boys from concentrating on their service duties.

Love wrote:if it was for people like you no offense that are scare or unwilling to defend their way of life the world would be a crappy place


If people like you who thinks taking arms is necessary did not exist. No wars would exist.


ok lets assume Nick lives in Pepo land and they have lots of candy there and Blazer wants those candy if Nick doesnt defend those candy Blazer will just slap him in the face and Nick will loose all his candy just couse Blazer felt like it hope is more clear now Blazer doesnt give a f*** about the fact that Nick doesnt want to fight
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Love wrote:ok lets assume Nick lives in Pepo land and they have lots of candy there and Blazer wants those candy if Nick doesnt defend those candy Blazer will just slap him in the face and Nick will loose all his candy just couse Blazer felt like it hope is more clear now Blazer doesnt give a f*** about the fact that Nick doesnt want to fight

That's still based on that the people who thinks violence is necessary exists.
Blazer would not have slapped him and taken his candy in the first place if people who thought violence isn't necessary did not exist.
Instead he would have asked nicely
'hey Nick can I have a piece of candy please?'
'Sure Blazer, lets because sharing is good.'
'Thanks Nick your the best! Come over to my place and eat my fudge later'
'Great! Lets do that!'

It's ashame to see this will never happen because there will always be stubborn people who believe violence is necessary to solve problems, if they did not exist the human race would I imagine be united instead of the countries we have today.

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Disconn3cted wrote:
AvAlAnChE1 wrote:If dumbass McCain becomes president, he will allow selective service for men and women. He will bring back the draft, and I WILL move to canada.

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McCain will probably be assassinated and i'll come to Canada if he wins too :)



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XuChu wrote:
Love wrote:ok lets assume Nick lives in Pepo land and they have lots of candy there and Blazer wants those candy if Nick doesnt defend those candy Blazer will just slap him in the face and Nick will loose all his candy just couse Blazer felt like it hope is more clear now Blazer doesnt give a f*** about the fact that Nick doesnt want to fight

That's still based on that the people who thinks violence is necessary exists.
Blazer would not have slapped him and taken his candy in the first place if people who thought violence isn't necessary did not exist.
Instead he would have asked nicely
'hey Nick can I have a piece of candy please?'
'Sure Blazer, lets because sharing is good.'
'Thanks Nick your the best! Come over to my place and eat my fudge later'
'Great! Lets do that!'

It's ashame to see this will never happen because there will always be stubborn people who believe violence is necessary to solve problems, if they did not exist the human race would I imagine be united instead of the countries we have today.


that made me lol anyways wake up there wont ever be such thing as

'hey Nick can I have a piece of candy please?'
'Sure Blazer, lets because sharing is good.'

to mention it is a waste of time and i assume you agree with me that people arent like that at all ( now a days generally ) so making people sign up for selective service is what fits our current situation the best couse lets say there is a war and people just dont want to fight couse they believe in peace and are all anti-war long story short they end up being slaves for those who invaded ( worse scenario kinda thing )one thing that history has taught us is that since the beginning of life on Earth the strong has taken advantage of the weak and that is a shit load of years and isnt about to change couse some1 thinks of fairy tales such as "lets becouse sharing is good" hope we dont get too personal with this :)

ps. i aint sharing my candy with any1 lol :D
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Love wrote:that made me lol anyways wake up there wont ever be such thing as

'hey Nick can I have a piece of candy please?'
'Sure Blazer, lets because sharing is good.'

to mention it is a waste of time and i assume you agree with me that people arent like that at all ( now a days generally ) so making people sign up for selective service is what fits our current situation the best couse lets say there is a war and people just dont want to fight couse they believe in peace and are all anti-war long story short they end up being slaves for those who invaded ( worse scenario kinda thing )


I thought it was really cute as well

Really, I was trying to men and women don't work well together in war when men take the majority. Conscription is definitely necessary in crisis but most of the times I think for small scale conflicts the soldiers aren't being fed, paid and trained for nothing.

Love wrote:one thing that history has though us is that since the beginning of life on Earth the strong has taken advantage of the weak and that is a shit load of years and isnt about to change couse some1 thinks of fairy tales such as "lets becouse sharing is good" hope we dont get too personal with this :)


XuChu wrote:It's ashame to see this will never happen because there will always be stubborn people who believe violence is necessary to solve problems, if they did not exist the human race would I imagine be united instead of the countries we have today.


Love wrote:ps. i aint sharing my candy with any1 lol :D

:x Well you ain't getting none of my fudge either!

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I can say from personal experience, when people are around the opposite sex they act different; its like their another person. I say this because i have been to an all-boys school, and currently am in a co-ed school. I tell you the guys at my current school act like tards around women, absolute imbeciles. The same with my old school, any average-good/fine looking woman caused the majority to think with their other head.

I voted yes for the sake of killing the double standard, and because i hold woman in high regard. I don't hold my male contemporaries in high regard, and consider most to be Immature baboons.

If I didn't respect woman/ see them as powerful figures then i would have voted NO, because without discipline your army will fall apart.

@xemnas, military rape was never 1 guy targeting 1 girl; it was a group. :(
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its not always a gangbang situation in the US military when these rare incidents happen....sometimes its repeated harassment of one individual with another that gets out of hand.....look up the reports if you have doubts....
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XemnasXD wrote:its not always a gangbang situation in the US military when these rare incidents happen....sometimes its repeated harassment of one individual with another that gets out of hand.....look up the reports if you have doubts....


Look up the reports eh? Its been pretty well known that most of those reports aren't true
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I voted yes.

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XemnasXD wrote:its not always a gangbang situation in the US military when these rare incidents happen....sometimes its repeated harassment of one individual with another that gets out of hand.....look up the reports if you have doubts....


Look up the reports eh? Its been pretty well known that most of those reports aren't true


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Question, Do you want a 5'5, 95 pound girl using a 50 cal to lay covering fire inches above your head? Nothing political or sexist about that.

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I believe the political leaders should do all the fighting. And they should post the fights on PPV. :roll:

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