We think its 90 cap next....90 and 100 cap maybe?

[Hideoki]

I was speaking to a friend in game just a minute ago, and he made some nice suggestions as to the next update being both 90 and 100! Reasons being, ksro csro etc all have legend 6 + right? last i checked anyway, and those guys have 9d and 10d but they also got fortress allot later in terms of the "legend count2 than we did. So as we are just on legend 2, maybe legend 3 ncludes not just 90 cap, but also 100! I think this is possible, though imo 90 cap is more likely. It was just made apparent to me this could happen.

[larroxx]

No No im friend no way they will realese 100 cap together with 90 .. -.- it would be stuped anyways

[mafa]

I dont really see the diffrence, new gap means game over for legit players.
Its barely possible to reach 80lv with out a bot, 90 would already be impossible and 100..
Well thats when people start dieing for playing too long, happend in china and thanks to joymax its world wide soon.

[Nyahgis]

I dont really see the diffrence, new gap means game over for legit players.
Its barely possible to reach 80lv with out a bot, 90 would already be impossible and 100..
Well thats when people start dieing for playing too long, happend in china and thanks to joymax its world wide soon.

*cough* pt grinding *cough*

I'm just gonna try and find a party of euros grinding on whatever the 90 cap mobs will be. Quite sure that 3+ hours a day on some 88+ mobs at 81 will get me plenty good exp. I doubt 90 will be that hard to obtain.

I also doubt we would get the 90 cap and 100 cap in one update. We've traditionally been getting the caps at 10 lvl intervals, and we didn't get the 90 cap yet even though ksro had it while we were barely at the 70 cap. 10 lvl gaps are way better anyways, although I would love to see the morons that just race to 100 and decide to 9 gap farm their 1m sp then [80~100 = 800k~1m sp depending on your build]

[tyfly]

Theres no way they'd release both caps, Updating or releasing new caps are the only way we stay with the game and its problems. the reason why we got Fortress i think is b/c all the hacking that was going on sro main site. They had to re-attract customers that were lost. And if they opened both caps there would be no nice 9D Stuff everyone would wait for 10D

[deep.in]

IMO = 90cap update, then after short time, 3-6months 100cap.

Like with cap70 to 80.

[DarkJackal]

I dont really see the diffrence, new gap means game over for legit players.
Its barely possible to reach 80lv with out a bot, 90 would already be impossible and 100..
Well thats when people start dieing for playing too long, happend in china and thanks to joymax its world wide soon.

If you can't grind it, thats you, quit saying its impossible for legits. Taking a long time does not mean impossible. Thats how a botter thinks "cant do it, takes too long" Impossible.

If anything the 90 cap will balance things out more for legits, bots wont have full sun sets to hide behind(providing the sun rate is normal and not the 80 cap was), sure bots will make it to 90 FIRST, but try wont be alone forever.

[Nyahgis]

I dont really see the diffrence, new gap means game over for legit players.
Its barely possible to reach 80lv with out a bot, 90 would already be impossible and 100..
Well thats when people start dieing for playing too long, happend in china and thanks to joymax its world wide soon.

If you can't grind it, thats you, quit saying its impossible for legits. Taking a long time does not mean impossible. Thats how a botter thinks "cant do it, takes too long" Impossible.

If anything the 90 cap will balance things out more for legits, bots wont have full sun sets to hide behind(providing the sun rate is normal and not the 80 cap was), sure bots will make it to 90 FIRST, but try wont be alone forever.

Exactly. 72~80 was doable in less than 2 weeks for me by just grinding [buffing basically], in the pt grinds at generals. The 90 cap will take longer, but even legits should be able to cap in less then a month assuming you don't gap the whole way. PT grinding is where it's at. If you did 80 legit before pt mobs rolled around, then you surely can do 90 and 100. It's the farming that will be impossible. [80~100 = 800k~1m sp needed for a nicely subbed euro, or a 3 mastery chinese. 1~80 was only 300k~400k ]

[mafa]

I dont really see the diffrence, new gap means game over for legit players.
Its barely possible to reach 80lv with out a bot, 90 would already be impossible and 100..
Well thats when people start dieing for playing too long, happend in china and thanks to joymax its world wide soon.

If you can't grind it, thats you, quit saying its impossible for legits. Taking a long time does not mean impossible. Thats how a botter thinks "cant do it, takes too long" Impossible.

If anything the 90 cap will balance things out more for legits, bots wont have full sun sets to hide behind(providing the sun rate is normal and not the 80 cap was), sure bots will make it to 90 FIRST, but try wont be alone forever.

Surely there will be a few 90 level legits, but you might wanna ask your self is it really worth it.
Even if someone manages to get to 90 level legit, everyone else who botted would have honor weapons and sox sets.
Legit player will never ever have 9/10D honor weapon or get to those degrees with out silk, personally i would rather sell my computer than grind to 90.
Im sure drop rate is very low, but its not like your going to get from 80 to 90 in a mounth.
By the time your 90 there will be 9D suns, gold bots dont npc seals incase nobody knew.

@Nyahgis, I dont really have much experience on party grinding, but it must be hard to find a legit party at those levels.

[Shine]

Surely there will be a few 90 level legits, but you might wanna ask your self is it really worth it.
Even if someone manages to get to 90 level legit, everyone else who botted would have honor weapons and sox sets.
Legit player will never ever have 9/10D honor weapon or get to those degrees with out silk, personally i would rather sell my computer than grind to 90.
Im sure drop rate is very low, but its not like your going to get from 80 to 90 in a mounth.
By the time your 90 there will be 9D suns, gold bots dont npc seals incase nobody knew.

@Nyahgis, I dont really have much experience on party grinding, but it must be hard to find a legit party at those levels.

This is exactly how people start botting. Getting to 80 isn't all that hard, just time consuming. People mistake time consuming as hard work. Heck, it didn't even take that long. I was 80 before Euro and PT grinding came out, but I still have to farm, and I am doing that with the PT grinding. Sure there are pretty much no legit parties out there(but this is Aege, legit = almost nonexistant), but I still grind in them. Now I'm gonna hear "lol you join bot pt's, your are just as bad as a bot or someone who gets powerlvl'd by a bot hahahah". Well, first of all that makes no sense. Second, I am not on a horse tracing the pt leader, nor am I off to the side where monsters won't come. I am out there at the generals, grinding. Finding a pt isn't hard, so what if it has mostly bots in it. As far as I am concerned, only time you need a legit party is if you are a Euro that doesn't have Cleric as main or sub(so many people just int/str/body/soul blessing, then go afk for half an hour, annoying). If you are a high level Euro, then you should at least be in a guild with other Euro's or have friends.

Getting to 90 again, wont be that hard. You will see all the fully farmed sun bots, or the unlucky bots with only +7(lol) pt grinding out there. That makes it even easier to find pt's, not to mention the damage that those people will bring. Although my union's high levels will probably be out there grinding to 90 too, and I would much rather join a legit party, since 100% of the time its better. These people that say "leveling is too hard, lol I'm not spending silk just to grind to high lvl's" just want an excuse to bot. If you think its too hard, then suck it up and keep grinding or just go bot like everyone else. As far as pvp goes, bots will ALWAYS have sox/+'d/fully blued weapons and sets. No way around it. But the drop rate of SoX will hopefully be normal, which means very few people will have som/sun, which is the only ones that matter at 90 anyway. Just look at the amount of som's at this cap. That is supposed to be the normal drop rate, I do not know of that many som's. Since its going to be 9th degree, its even higher level and thus even lower drop rate.

[mafa]

This is exactly how people start botting. Getting to 80 isn't all that hard, just time consuming. People mistake time consuming as hard work. Heck, it didn't even take that long. I was 80 before Euro and PT grinding came out, but I still have to farm, and I am doing that with the PT grinding. Sure there are pretty much no legit parties out there(but this is Aege, legit = almost nonexistant), but I still grind in them. Now I'm gonna hear "lol you join bot pt's, your are just as bad as a bot or someone who gets powerlvl'd by a bot hahahah". Well, first of all that makes no sense. Second, I am not on a horse tracing the pt leader, nor am I off to the side where monsters won't come. I am out there at the generals, grinding. Finding a pt isn't hard, so what if it has mostly bots in it. As far as I am concerned, only time you need a legit party is if you are a Euro that doesn't have Cleric as main or sub(so many people just int/str/body/soul blessing, then go afk for half an hour, annoying). If you are a high level Euro, then you should at least be in a guild with other Euro's or have friends.

Getting to 90 again, wont be that hard. You will see all the fully farmed sun bots, or the unlucky bots with only +7(lol) pt grinding out there. That makes it even easier to find pt's, not to mention the damage that those people will bring. Although my union's high levels will probably be out there grinding to 90 too, and I would much rather join a legit party, since 100% of the time its better. These people that say "leveling is too hard, lol I'm not spending silk just to grind to high lvl's" just want an excuse to bot. If you think its too hard, then suck it up and keep grinding or just go bot like everyone else. As far as pvp goes, bots will ALWAYS have sox/+'d/fully blued weapons and sets. No way around it. But the drop rate of SoX will hopefully be normal, which means very few people will have som/sun, which is the only ones that matter at 90 anyway. Just look at the amount of som's at this cap. That is supposed to be the normal drop rate, I do not know of that many som's. Since its going to be 9th degree, its even higher level and thus even lower drop rate.

I didnt say its impossible to get 90 level, im just saying its not worth it.
I didnt say botting is a good thing, i rather start playing puzzle pirates than bot.
Im just saying that dont you think its time to move on when 90 gap is released ?
It might be hard to beleave, but theres games with customer service and no bots.
Since silkroad obviously costs money for legit players, why wouldnt you just switch to another game that has mounthly fee and no bots at all ?

[Nyahgis]

It might be hard to beleave, but theres games with customer service and no bots.
Since silkroad obviously costs money for legit players, why wouldnt you just switch to another game that has mounthly fee and no bots at all ?

Because silkroad is still a great game. It's exactly why people still play it. Many bitch about the game's state yet happily play along anyways. I've played WoW, CABAL, DarkEden, 2moons, Diablo 1&2, EverQuest, 9 Dragons, and a bit of EVE. Many of those games had better customer service and GM interaction, but I still come back and play Silkroad. Honestly, I give shit about the customer service and the bots. I'm in it to have fun, and although the game could be better, I'm fine with how it is. [Otherwise I wouldn't be playing it...]

[mafa]

It might be hard to beleave, but theres games with customer service and no bots.
Since silkroad obviously costs money for legit players, why wouldnt you just switch to another game that has mounthly fee and no bots at all ?

Because silkroad is still a great game. It's exactly why people still play it. Many bitch about the game's state yet happily play along anyways. I've played WoW, CABAL, DarkEden, 2moons, Diablo 1&2, EverQuest, 9 Dragons, and a bit of EVE. Many of those games had better customer service and GM interaction, but I still come back and play Silkroad. Honestly, I give shit about the customer service and the bots. I'm in it to have fun, and although the game could be better, I'm fine with how it is. [Otherwise I wouldn't be playing it...]

I like many things in silkroad too, but im having really hard time with bots, since i have always been against them big time.
I quess im just stalling and doing alchemy till this game kills itself or another game similiar to this is released.

[firefox6]

it will only be the 90 cap. it seems every big update comes every 6 months(one in winter one in sumer)

[Shine]

It might be hard to beleave, but theres games with customer service and no bots.
Since silkroad obviously costs money for legit players, why wouldnt you just switch to another game that has mounthly fee and no bots at all ?

Because silkroad is still a great game. It's exactly why people still play it. Many bitch about the game's state yet happily play along anyways. I've played WoW, CABAL, DarkEden, 2moons, Diablo 1&2, EverQuest, 9 Dragons, and a bit of EVE. Many of those games had better customer service and GM interaction, but I still come back and play Silkroad. Honestly, I give shit about the customer service and the bots. I'm in it to have fun, and although the game could be better, I'm fine with how it is. [Otherwise I wouldn't be playing it...]

I like many things in silkroad too, but im having really hard time with bots, since i have always been against them big time.
I quess im just stalling and doing alchemy till this game kills itself or another game similiar to this is released.

Yes, I have played other MMO's that are cheaper/free, but I still like SRO. So much so that I will put up with the nonexistant customer service and the increasing bot problem. I don't mind that you think that sro is not worth it, what I do mind is that you were telling us that what we should do because of what you thought of the game. We all have different opinions and we will act based on them.

Anyway back on topic, it makes perfect sense for them to only release the 90 cap. That way players will keep playing because they want the 100 cap, and if they screw up big time again, they can release the 100 cap to get their customers support back. Also for the players it would make sense as people would be grinding non stop from 80~100 and farming too, and would eventually just quit all together from the amount of grinding they had to do and how fast the bots were getting to 100 while they were still late 8x/early 9x.

[sama98b]

100cap is next .

[GodsAngel]

I dont really see the diffrence, new gap means game over for legit players.
Its barely possible to reach 80lv with out a bot, 90 would already be impossible and 100..
Well thats when people start dieing for playing too long, happend in china and thanks to joymax its world wide soon.

*cough* pt grinding *cough*

I'm just gonna try and find a party of euros grinding on whatever the 90 cap mobs will be. Quite sure that 3+ hours a day on some 88+ mobs at 81 will get me plenty good exp. I doubt 90 will be that hard to obtain.

I also doubt we would get the 90 cap and 100 cap in one update. We've traditionally been getting the caps at 10 lvl intervals, and we didn't get the 90 cap yet even though ksro had it while we were barely at the 70 cap. 10 lvl gaps are way better anyways, although I would love to see the morons that just race to 100 and decide to 9 gap farm their 1m sp then [80~100 = 800k~1m sp depending on your build]

+1
it's fairly easy to grind in 8/8 parties, and as euros we might as well 9 gap on 88+ mobs while 80 and finish our sp farm in like a week, that's what my friend did took her 2 weeks to get 150k+ sp....

[DarkJackal]

Getting to 90 will be hard and take a while, but I don't understand why taking a long time is supposedly impossible, your still gonna get there, just be patient.

Your never gonna do it though if you look at how far you away you are and feel its impossible.

I can't wait to get the new 9d bow, i'm already gonna have the 2nd tier one wich will be very close to as strong as suns 8d, and hopefully no more full sun bots~

[Itonami]

Mass chaos. Crap economy for 9D and 10D.. why not?

[DarkJackal]

There crap economy already ;d.

[JacksColon]

I don't know why the complainers care so much about botters? You can still be legit. So what? JM doesn't do anything about it? Who cares? The game is still fun. THe only problem is you. Your problem with botters is a personal problem and it is getting in the way of you having fun. Tons of legits and botters all still have fun on SRO, yet you (and other complainers) don't. You could, but you would rather moan and groan about how many botters or plvlers there are than go out and enjoy the game. And don't tell me it's impossible to have fun because of botters because that is a stupid argument.

[Itonami]

There crap economy already ;d.

It would be worse. We have a decreased drop ratio and everyone would rush to 100, meaning not enough 9D gears, so the prices for them would be twice as high based on the rarity of them.

[DarkJackal]

I don't know why the complainers care so much about botters? You can still be legit. So what? JM doesn't do anything about it? Who cares? The game is still fun. THe only problem is you. Your problem with botters is a personal problem and it is getting in the way of you having fun. Tons of legits and botters all still have fun on SRO, yet you (and other complainers) don't. You could, but you would rather moan and groan about how many botters or plvlers there are than go out and enjoy the game. And don't tell me it's impossible to have fun because of botters because that is a stupid argument.

lol tell me how its a personal problem hen you grind up and wanna go on a job run, then some bot with full sun kills you and you cant do anything, or bots all over your spot and you can't grind. stop trying to defend it, bots fked up sro, and they only make it difficult for those who actually play.

[_Scarlett_]

hand grinders can always gain exp. way faster than bots...only reason why bots level faster is because they're usually going 24/7, besides inspection. If you ground the same amount of time as a bot (which is impossible XD) you'd outlevel bots (if you know how to grind efficiently). I don't see why people complain about leveling, you'll get to cap eventually if you keep dedicated and don't give up. You don't have to get to cap first!!!


On topic: Highly doubtful 100cap will come out next, that'll just take away possible future profits for JM. 90-cap is the more likely update to come next.

[HellsAdvocate]

joymax needs you to waste your money buying premiums after reaching cap before raising it again, its primarily a monetary desicion

[Mustarastas]

Joymax is gonna save their updates.... so its not gonna be 90 and 100 but 90 only... Also they have mentioned that "we give major updates every 6 months" which means that 90 gap comes in june.

[skandal]

This is exactly how people start botting. Getting to 80 isn't all that hard [.........] I was 80 before Euro and PT grinding came out, but I still have to farm, and I am doing that with the PT grinding.

Should've also capsed the bolded text above...

Getting to 90 again, wont be that hard. You will see all the fully farmed sun bots, or the unlucky bots with only +7(lol) pt grinding out there.

Probably.

These people that say "leveling is too hard, lol I'm not spending silk just to grind to high lvl's" just want an excuse to bot.

No, it really is too hard to do it.

As far as pvp goes, bots will ALWAYS have sox/+'d/fully blued weapons and sets. No way around it.

Lol why's that? Cannot legit's plus a damn wep?

Well, now let's demolish the whole post ^_^.Ok, maybe lvling to 90 won't be so hard, especially for euro's in a grinding pt.But hell...WHY? Level is not the only thing that matters, and as far as it goes, being lvl 90 is useless if your highest skill level is 15 lvls below you.You will still suck big time.

As for farming...I remember seing a post on silkroad tavern, in which a guy Powerfarmed 1M sp in like 2 months or so. With some simple math, you can come out with 20k sp per day(rough average).Considering the fact you need to delevel like 6 lvls every day, which takes like 2 hours(and is hella annoying btw), and you can gain like 1k sp/hour at ongs, it's pretty much obvious he's been training 24/7 to get those SP.For 2 months.So if being fully farmed to 90 means botting 24/7 like 2 months at ongs(which is by far the fastest farming method known), can you immagine how much it would take you, as legit, to farm those SP at high lvl.i'd reason a year, if you play like 6-7hours a day every day. So, it's pretty much obvious 99% legits will never get fully farmed to 90.hate to ruin your dream.And as it's been said, racing to 90 isn't the only thing that matters. Maybe one would get his image boosted here on SRF, but that's all. End of story...there's no but's and no room for discussion.

[tedtwilliger]

Without a doubt it will only be the 90 cap.

The only reason we got the fortress war early is because the game would of died without it. Everyone was wanting the 90 cap at December, remember how annoyed everyone was when we didn't get it?

Now if we didn't get the fortress war everyone would of been very annoyed and thought "well im not waiting around for the next 6 months for the cap rise" and would of just left. Fortress war was a very bad attempt to keep people interested in this game. But alike many of their other "updates" its so flawed and full of injustices that its not worth even playing.