Sosuns My server and yours

[w00t]

is that calc proven to be correct in its calculations ?

[Fuhito]

SOSun is NOT +15, that's just a rounded estimation and it changes at levels.

Also, a 64+4 is NOT the same as a lvl 68 weapon. The power changes between degrees and tiers.

Red text makes me look smart!

http://www.nivlam.com/weapon/

64+16 is 772~844
64 sosun +0 is 784~901

Chicks with my name on a pad make me feel popular!

Oh wait... whats the point of this?

Thanks for reposting what airbeat basically did, without the images, and will still probably be ignored by people arguing that SOSUN=+15 and dumb founded by level 80 weapons. I personally thought the red was a nice attention grabber instead of seeing 50 images of weapons stats from nivlam.

[Aurelli]

well umm.. its not about the sun or sumn , It's about the build and how good is it . I've seen around lv80's Pure Str. and thier hit ratio doesnt go more than 280 but mine it goes for more than 320 i dunnu why im still 66 though lol and it goes for more when im using a sun well gd luck sunners ^^ ..

[XMoshe]

well umm.. its not about the sun or sumn , It's about the build and how good is it . I've seen around lv80's Pure Str. and thier hit ratio doesnt go more than 280 but mine it goes for more than 320 i dunnu why im still 66 though lol and it goes for more when im using a sun well gd luck sunners ^^ ..

Are you also pure str? Maybe that guy had sucky gear/weapon w/ ever, not buffed? (If a buff helps lol....)

[NukingWhore]

yall are complaining about the sun drop rates. I play on babel and have plenty of sun in my guild. The sun is not as big a deal as you would think. To be honest i think the servers with sun are more balanced vs the over powered Euros. I just made my 72 XBOW +7 its phy attack is 1219. 1219? Comeon that XBOW can one shot alot of sun users. Wizards with a +5 staff can one shot chinese chars with full sun sets. This seems balanced? Stop crying about the sun stuff cause on servers with no sos and no sosun euros should dominate top to bottom at 80 cap. So my argument is the older servers with alot of sun are prolly alot more balanced and why in babel and troy and a few others the fort is a huge battle and not just one guild pwning everyone like odin.

[aazumak]

lvl 64 sosun +7 is about = to a lvl 80 +5/+6 inbetween there



but sun's have a much higher crit or block rate, thats what makes them rock

[Krad_Red]

SOSun is NOT +15, that's just a rounded estimation and it changes at levels.

Also, a 64+4 is NOT the same as a lvl 68 weapon. The power changes between degrees and tiers.

Red text makes me look smart!

http://www.nivlam.com/weapon/

64+16 is 772~844
64 sosun +0 is 784~901

Chicks with my name on a pad make me feel popular!

Oh wait... whats the point of this?

Thanks for reposting what airbeat basically did, without the images, and will still probably be ignored by people arguing that SOSUN=+15 and dumb founded by level 80 weapons. I personally thought the red was a nice attention grabber instead of seeing 50 images of weapons stats from nivlam.

You're both correct, the power isn't the same but it is roughly similar. No one ever said it was exactly the same. <.<

[ThisIsAvalon]

SOSun is NOT +15, that's just a rounded estimation and it changes at levels.

Also, a 64+4 is NOT the same as a lvl 68 weapon. The power changes between degrees and tiers.

Red text makes me look smart!

http://www.nivlam.com/weapon/

64+16 is 772~844
64 sosun +0 is 784~901

Chicks with my name on a pad make me feel popular!

Oh wait... whats the point of this?

Thanks for reposting what airbeat basically did, without the images, and will still probably be ignored by people arguing that SOSUN=+15 and dumb founded by level 80 weapons. I personally thought the red was a nice attention grabber instead of seeing 50 images of weapons stats from nivlam.

I thought I contributed something worth reading.

[Aurelli]

well umm.. its not about the sun or sumn , It's about the build and how good is it . I've seen around lv80's Pure Str. and thier hit ratio doesnt go more than 280 but mine it goes for more than 320 i dunnu why im still 66 though lol and it goes for more when im using a sun well gd luck sunners ^^ ..

Are you also pure str? Maybe that guy had sucky gear/weapon w/ ever, not buffed? (If a buff helps lol....)

Well he was buffed and i wasn't lol ^^ , Ow yea im Pure str. also .

edit : he got a good garment pieces well atleast better than mine =D . and he got a 72+9 Glavie FB so hmm.. ?

[Adreanna]

well umm.. its not about the sun or sumn , It's about the build and how good is it . I've seen around lv80's Pure Str. and thier hit ratio doesnt go more than 280 but mine it goes for more than 320 i dunnu why im still 66 though lol and it goes for more when im using a sun well gd luck sunners ^^ ..

hit ratio doesn't matter when u get dropped 1hit for a 17k crit



to stay on topic; non sun; i got 361 hit ratio - and parry: 384

no bird btw

[justaskphil]

Sun player chinese v. no sun chinese seems a bit unfair, for those of us that don't have sun.

But you gotta admit it's so funny to see a full sun chinese get 1 or 2 shotted by a capped Euro w/ normal gears.

90 cap and better equips will make the 8d sun not so important, and if anyone is lucky enough to get a 9d sun anything, hopefully it'll be one of us ordinary people

[XMoshe]

yall are complaining about the sun drop rates. I play on babel and have plenty of sun in my guild. The sun is not as big a deal as you would think. To be honest i think the servers with sun are more balanced vs the over powered Euros. I just made my 72 XBOW +7 its phy attack is 1219. 1219? Comeon that XBOW can one shot alot of sun users. Wizards with a +5 staff can one shot chinese chars with full sun sets. This seems balanced? Stop crying about the sun stuff cause on servers with no sos and no sosun euros should dominate top to bottom at 80 cap. So my argument is the older servers with alot of sun are prolly alot more balanced and why in babel and troy and a few others the fort is a huge battle and not just one guild pwning everyone like odin.

We are bitching about it because it shouldnt be like this...All those suns >.>

[Blasjr]

wonder what would happen if they would open up another race, like the Ottam ? Right now its a bit tilted, but who cares, I get one shot, my frnds one shot them! Pot delays (in my humble opinion) put Euro at a disadvantage still. Usually on Trade runs, War, Fortress its never one vs one anyways. And back to Thread Topic: I Will BUY all 8D SUN on VENUS when they drop. Try me guys! IF You WTS/I WTB. We'll discuss your terms... Armor/Protector/Garms/Spear/Glaive/Shield/Sword.

[John_Doe]

They should just remove som and sosun all together and leave sos.

Because a full sos set at the 70 cap wasn't at all like having a full sun set at this cap?

I had no idea what that meaned....anywho with Euro buffs, suns don't really make much of a diff unless you like to solo sun people alot.

[Krad_Red]

They should just remove som and sosun all together and leave sos.

Because a full sos set at the 70 cap wasn't at all like having a full sun set at this cap?

I had no idea what that meaned....anywho with Euro buffs, suns don't really make much of a diff unless you like to solo sun people alot.

It means that having a full sun set at this cap is the same as having a sos set at the 70 cap. Same people, diff seals, same shit.