Stay 70:70 or go full str??

[maxie2]

well the title says all, please tell your oppinion about it.


I got now a lvl 14 70:70 archer
I love to pvp and go jobbing on higher lvl, so what is better full str or 70:70

[SwordSlinger]

Personally I like Pure STR when you get to the big leagues as a hybrid bow you cant hang.
So I would go Pure STR

[Doctor_MOS]

think about which one you like better
70:70
hella lot dps
runs 40-45% snow shield (is dependent onto it)
crit is a BIT lower then pure str from my experience, but not so much everyone talks about lol

pure str:
hella lot hp
really DEPENDS on crit to win, proberly can't beat a blader (im 7"0:70 and already have sometimes hard times killing them in minus 10 skills, let alone what a pure str archer needs)
tho pure str doesn't rely on snow shield

Me like 70:70 better, <3 hybrids. imo is better, some will say it isn't. Do what you like
70:70 can proberly kill everything, and can be killed by everything


PS: don't think 70:70 s*cks before you reach something like 52, you will need to have a decent snow shield before you can really be good at pvp, when you get your knock back and stun skills you are fine

[maxie2]

think about which one you like better
70:70
hella lot dps
runs 40-45% snow shield (is dependent onto it)
crit is a BIT lower then pure str from my experience, but not so much everyone talks about lol

pure str:
hella lot hp
really DEPENDS on crit to win, proberly can't beat a blader (im 7"0:70 and already have sometimes hard times killing them in minus 10 skills, let alone what a pure str archer needs)
tho pure str doesn't rely on snow shield

Me like 70:70 better, <3 hybrids. imo is better, some will say it isn't. Do what you like
70:70 can proberly kill everything, and can be killed by everything


PS: don't think 70:70 s*cks before you reach something like 52, you will need to have a decent snow shield before you can really be good at pvp, when you get your knock back and stun skills you are fine

Yea, i think i stay 70:70 Im now lvl 14 and have a 2 gab between lightning and pacheon and my ice is 2 levels below light and pach. So i think i will do fine wenn i get the snowshield and the really big damage dealing pach skills. In the beginning i think im only going to trade a bit and that will probalby work without the snowshield.

Thx for al the replies btw

[muyo]

i have one 70:70 bow level 77, really hard to beat blader that 2,3 lower level than me...ill be kill if cant kill them fast enough.

70:70 is fast damage dealer and quite fast to die vs either int or str ...but if u dont like to rely on crit to win or hate to die faster...you can consider STR hybrid bow. Maybe 80%-85% physical naked? who gonna try this balance?maybe u

[maxie2]

i have one 70:70 bow level 77, really hard to beat blader that 2,3 lower level than me...ill be kill if cant kill them fast enough.

70:70 is fast damage dealer and quite fast to die vs either int or str ...but if u dont like to rely to rely on crit or hate to die faster...you can consider STR hybrid bow. Maybe 80%-85% physical naked? who gonna try this balance?maybe u

Well you say a good thing: 'Maybe 80-85% physical naked' --> i think im going to do this It sounds pretty cool and its between 70:70 and a full str archer. The 2 things i was thinking to do

[Shynygamie]

pure str

[Het1337]

ive got a 52 80% bowman who is great dont get me wrong but i think 70:70 is a more fun build thats why im starting to drop down BTW iff ur going hybrid str bow imo you should go garms cuz otherwise full ints will own you.

[maxie2]

Well i havent lvl up yet, so im still 70:70. I said before that i would go 85% physical but i think i just will stay 70:70. If im 70:70 and will do alchemy on high lvls i will be able to get a 80:80 balance and that would be really cood

ive got a 52 80% bowman who is great dont get me wrong but i think 70:70 is a more fun build thats why im starting to drop down BTW iff ur going hybrid str bow imo you should go garms cuz otherwise full ints will own you.

I think i will wear protector, that looks me the right armor for archer

[Doctor_MOS]

ive got a 52 80% bowman who is great dont get me wrong but i think 70:70 is a more fun build thats why im starting to drop down BTW iff ur going hybrid str bow imo you should go garms cuz otherwise full ints will own you.

im a 70:70 archer, with snow shield I can tank better then u

don't get me wrong, they are both good

[vanom]

let me say it in this way: as non pure str archer, you're going down pretty fast, after your snowshield is off.

[maxie2]

let me say it in this way: as non pure str archer, you're going down pretty fast, after your snowshield is off.

Well im not so sure about this, if you wear protector you got pretty good defense( pysicla and magical) so you can take a hit. I probably wont use the snowshield in the beginning of a match, only when you get in to problems. I would move away with the lightning skill, use snowshield and start the strongbow orso, you can that do some serious damage

All i said is only thoughts xD i never had the snowshield nor the skills to do it, but i think it will work out fine. Fulll str is also pretty good, but i like to do someting a little bit different so thats way 70:70 works fine for me
I killed some giants tigers with it, i had no problem with those so the lvling will go pretty good, and i probably will do good in pvp also. But i can kill people just as easy as they can kill me

[SwordSlinger]

I agree with vandom a non-Pure STR bow is gonna die pretty quick without Snowshield
But then again maxie is also kinda right cause Pro will help a bit with a hybrid bow

But im still staying with my theory that Hybrids cant hang when they're lvl 80

[MrFudge]

im 87% physical balance str hybrid.
no, i dont die fast without snow shield.
But people think im full str and they complain when i use snow, soooo yea.
Str hybrids really good when people don't throw a fit over snow shield.

dmg non-crit is a bit higher than pure str.
crit dmg is pretty dam close.

i like it, but u need 100% blues to make it work.

[HertogJan]

hybrids are toats after snowshield. With snowshield they are a decent match, but if I am doing 3-4k damage to a hyrbid with 40% snowshield I will do around 5-6k on average without snowshield. Crits will do around 10k then, this will end the fight pretty fast.

With snowshield hybrids are ok, they overall damage they do more just isnt enough to kill people fast enough to survive without snowshield. There seems to be a hybrid bower with the alias FlashGuard on Xian. He/She is fully farmed I believe and does good damage on me, I just cant wait till I am farmed and pvp with him/her then. I now do 3-4k with snowshield, figure I will be able to kill it then. But that is just talk.

And I am also wondering what trees they will pick for the 90cap. Cause whatever they choose, they seem to be getting into trouble. 90pacheon/light/fire 30ice? Snowshield isnt really much then, only 30% I believe. fire or lighting only to 70 or so? You will miss out on either magical damage, magical defense, phy. damage, parry, speed, pw etc. For strs the choises seem pretty obvious, but hybrids might have a harder time in figuring it out.

[bakafish]

70:70 if you're not planning to play on higher caps because the Chinese race is allowed to only 300 mastery levels. Therefore, as the cap rises, you will not able to take as many mastery trees as you are now. Probably at 90 cap, you would have to drop a mastery. Whichever it is, it reduces the capability of Hybrids a lot, hence not a good idea. To be honest, if it wasn't for cap rise, I would have made myself a Hybrid archer.

[maxie2]

70:70 if you're not planning to play on higher caps because the Chinese race is allowed to only 300 mastery levels. Therefore, as the cap rises, you will not able to take as many mastery trees as you are now. Probably at 90 cap, you would have to drop a mastery. Whichever it is, it reduces the capability of Hybrids a lot, hence not a good idea. To be honest, if it wasn't for cap rise, I would have made myself a Hybrid archer.

i havent thought about this, but i think you need to lower a three huh?? So that probably would make the snowshield much lower, and gives a smaller changes of winning a pvp

im 87% physical balance str hybrid.
no, i dont die fast without snow shield.
But people think im full str and they complain when i use snow, soooo yea.
Str hybrids really good when people don't throw a fit over snow shield.

dmg non-crit is a bit higher than pure str.
crit dmg is pretty dam close.

i like it, but u need 100% blues to make it work.

Wow you need 100% blues to be good with a 87% physical balance, it look bit complicated and full str would be the easy way. Now i really not so sure about staying 70:70. All the things with the snowshield makes me think about the chose Only thing i wanna now is If you are full str arent you using hell lot of mp pots? If this isnt a problem im going to get a more str based build, like 85% or just full str. because its annoying if you would die everytime your snowshield runs out

[HertogJan]

Any build needs 100% blues to be awesome. I would be totally sucky if I didnt have a decent set.

[bakafish]

@ maxie2 Also, the Frost Guard buff and passive won't actually be useful if it's below 60.

[maxie2]

Any build needs 100% blues to be awesome. I would be totally sucky if I didnt have a decent set.

ok, i need to read some guides about alcemyy then

Well i still doubt xD. If i stay 70:70 im going to do --> 90pach/90light/90ice/30fire
if i go for a more str based build like 85% im going to do ---> 90pach/90light/90fire/30ice

i prefere the 90pach/90light/90ice/30fire cuz i like the ice more . So if i got the 90 ice also i get good defence and snowshield so i will do good in pvp huh? If this would be good build will leave it like this.

[toastedsock]

If you wanna go full str you'll have to restart because with a full str you have to put ALL of your points in str. If you want to go full str from here on then it's up to you. However, you'll never be quite as strong as a real full str. If you stay hybrid then you'll gain the benefit of more mp.

But at lvl 14 if you want full str you might as well just start over not like it'll take very long to get to 14 again.

[maxie2]

Im mabye making a full str archer too, just to compare those to builds. Only thing what i think about is the mp!?!?. If your full str archer dont you use enormous amout of mp pots????? because i hate it when you need to buy like 2 hp pots and 100 mp pots for and hour of grinding. So if it doesnt eat mp pots i might try it out just to compare


Also im thinking of skipping the arrow combo and just taking the autum wind flame thing is this good idea or should you really take the combo????. Im trying of going 2 gap and get the lightning 2 gabs under fire and pach. Is this good or would it really suck. If this would be good i think im going to take ik

[Bounzzer]

Without a doubt I say go Full str from now on and get a real Deathbringer xD

[ShiningBow]

Stay 70:70 really fun and a real good build. Just takes gold which is hard to make for me