Fortress War Sieging Winners, How Did Your Union Take Over?

[nightbloom]

As co leader of a fortress holding guild, I hope that more ppl DO share strategies to take over the fortress. The last few disorganized, lame attempts were pretty boring. The first war was fun cause it was a free for all, the second one was good too cause we were so pumped up for it. But on our server, I think the bots are just gonna give up and let us keep the fortress unchallenged, which kinda sucks. We WANT an epic battle! lol

[IHateWhiners]

haha nightbloom. Any strategy for defending union to share also?

Like obstacles positioning? guards positioning? or they actually dont help at all?

[phulshof]

Stop flaming and wrongly accuse ppl, phulshof.

There is no right or wrong, only opinion. You have your views of what happened, other people do not share that view. No reason to get so worked up about it, honestly!

This thread was supposed to be about tactics to take down the fortress. A 4:1 or 5:1 number advantage is not a tactic. A tactic involves having full STR with 4 warrior/clerics taking down the gate, and another cleric away from danger healing. A tactic involves having extra people at the gate (without hammers) to share the damage. A tactic involves distributing the gates between the attacking unions so the attackers don't bother each other too much. A tactic involves having your wizards fire off massive AoE attacks on the gates to take out as many defenders as possible, and making sure such wizards are well protected by bless and warriors to keep them alive. Those are tactics, and have very little to do with how Supremacy lost the fortress on Troy.

Also: explaining a number advantage has nothing to do with whining. It is just about putting things in perspective. Considering that I'm neither a member of Supremacy nor of their union, you'd think I'd have a more balanced view on things than someone who's actually part of this war. But since I'm already accused of whining, I might as well do it:

Why are member of the Queen guild not able to pvp people without getting at least a 3:1 advantage, and even then don't have the common decency of letting someone buff up?

Btw: why are you on some kind of semi-anonymous account answering this thread?

[Krad_Red]

Stop flaming and wrongly accuse ppl, phulshof.

Btw: why are you on some kind of semi-anonymous account answering this thread?

Cuz he's from another forum and doesnt want people here knowing he's part of that community.

Anyways, we lost big deal. Let them have their fun and lets move on.

[IHateWhiners]

im so sry u r so so ignorant,phulshof. Tactics and strategy dont jus refer to the way u fight. how u share dmg.

Theres preparation before the fortress war. how do we know that 1 of the gate is more difficult to attack? if we attack it n cant attack the defenders, it would be demoralising. this is the phsychological part of the warfare. theres others also. haha. but i guess u only know how to pvp? Listen to genesis guild. they have great leaders like Locke and Moly. Im sure they will provide a good war next time. So u guys joining genesis is a good idea.

LOL Krad! tell everyone which forum then. SHoot out the names pls. I cant believe u say tat. 'say out which community u belongs to?'. Wahahahahahahha!!! And I really hate whiners tats y i make this account. i dont have any account in srf. all the while i was jus leeching tips n infos from srf n decided maybe this time i could provide some info. Believe or not its ur entire opinion.

I believe u guys wont stop whining even if i tell u so. So continue whining. jus whine. and i will jus laught.

^__^

[IHateWhiners]

sry this topic changed to Whiners vs IHateWhiners

Back to topic. is it convenient for nightbloom urself to discuss the positioning of the Fwar items?

[phulshof]

im so sry u r so so ignorant,phulshof.

Why do you continue to throw insults like calling people ignorant and whiners? In stead, why not tell us WHICH gate is the better one to attack? Tell us HOW to take the least damage from the defenders while being able to deal a lot yourself. You did the research: enlighten us please!

[Renton]

im so sry u r so so ignorant,phulshof.

Why do you continue to throw insults like calling people ignorant and whiners? In stead, why not tell us WHICH gate is the better one to attack? Tell us HOW to take the least damage from the defenders while being able to deal a lot yourself. You did the research: enlighten us please!

He's the one that keeps whining about how -we're- whining. I love it!

[IHateWhiners]

haha im not throwing insults. U really are. But i might be ignorant as well^^

finally u guys back to topic. 2 tips for u. Note down the attacking path. The opposite of the gate the attacking guild attacking is the hardest to target.

2nd tip: u can cast something every 20min

Im really neutral if u try to look at my posts. Im trying to give some tips to prevent bugs for everyone in sro. But u guys keep saying its not that, its numbers, its power, its somethin else. And becos i share this to everyone attacking on troy day before the Fwar. so i tot maybe i could share this as this might be the case in other server which im not 100% sure.

[Renton]

But i might be ignorant as well^^

[nightbloom]

We never have set up the obstacles. We randomly positioned the guards and they werent that effective for us. lol We have the advantage of a huge VERY active Union of nearly all euro chars. But we are hardly all capped or sunned. Asyamura is the first of us to make 80, the rest of us are about 1-2 weeks behind him; rest of us = 9 7X players. Our average level is about 4X-5X unionwise. Doesnt sound like much does it?

[huejas]

Lol, i'm in the union holding the fortress.So im'a make u the following proposal : whoever kills a whiner(in RL) about FW gets 1m gold on his server...pictures wanted...

On topic : STFU.
Fly, nercobat and nightbloom are right...That's the ideaa of a fortress, one guild says inside and the others are trying to get in...it's not job war u noobs...fortress war is made for the whole server to unite against people who hold the fortress.

It's not anybody's fault if you are lower lvl and die instantly.
It's not anybody's fault if you get to the gate and realize nobody in your guild actually bought hammers or only int's have them.
It's not anybody's fault if you start trying to pvp people on the wall instead of bashing the gate.
It's not anybody's fault if you pvp neutral guilds instead of allying.

Some fortresses changed owner.I can only congratulate them for doing a good job.

actually it is someone's fault...its there own fault
get organized and maybe you will have a chance

[Fly]

take a look at who took the fortress.

2nd war it was taken on 3 servers. this war is was taken on 4 other servers. thats 7 servers that lost there fortress. next time i bet it will be taken on 3 or 4 other servers again.

sooner or later every server will have lost there fortress atleast once. thats how it should be. there is no unballance.

[torinchibi]

How hard is it to take on 8 guilds even if they are full, if you can have at least 10 attackers (dunno how much you can have really, but there are 10 command posts, so it's either 10 attackers, or 10 unions).

What needs to happen is some competition for the fortress, instead of 1000 small guilds with inactive players, get 30 huge full guilds with active players. I doubt 8 guilds can defend vs 30 guilds even if they are made out of sun.

If you can't figure out how to do it with tactics, just swarm them with overwhelming numbers.

Repair pots are BS though, I didn't think you could repair during the war.

[Necrobat]

How hard is it to take on 8 guilds even if they are full, if you can have at least 10 attackers (dunno how much you can have really, but there are 10 command posts, so it's either 10 attackers, or 10 unions).

What needs to happen is some competition for the fortress, instead of 1000 small guilds with inactive players, get 30 huge full guilds with active players. I doubt 8 guilds can defend vs 30 guilds even if they are made out of sun.

If you can't figure out how to do it with tactics, just swarm them with overwhelming numbers.

Repair pots are BS though, I didn't think you could repair during the war.

5 people on the defending side can repair. The hammers have 5 minutes of cooldown. That's pretty fair.

[foudre]

Hint hint.... trojan horse...... hint hint.....

trojan horse how would that work in sro?

unless your guild left union while defending and took it from the guild in control?

wait could you? Not sure they would have thought of this, it would probally cause every union member to dc, and the fortress itself would dc and woudlnt' be able to log back in

[Fly]

Hint hint.... trojan horse...... hint hint.....

trojan horse how would that work in sro?

unless your guild left union while defending and took it from the guild in control?

wait could you? Not sure they would have thought of this, it would probally cause every union member to dc, and the fortress itself would dc and woudlnt' be able to log back in

have a close friend join the enemy, work his way up to deputy commander, then open the gates

spying / covert ops is a legit tactic in wars.

[IHateWhiners]

Bribe the deputy commander 1billion.

[tyfly]

Well If i make speak, heres what i think happened and worked. Prior to Attacking the fortress, Immo union and XxX Union formed an alliance, while attacking until we hit the heart. So it wasn't XxX vs Immo Than whoever attacks the gate. We all united and attacked as one. Which after wards proved my point. when we took the Fortress and had to defend for 30mins Barely no one really attacked because they were too busy killing each other. Yes numbers had to do with it, but in all fairness Numbers really didn't have much of a role in this, You guys just had to put all your forces at the gates that could attack us and such but since to that Dumb glitch we couldn't fight back, Either way no matter how you see it no matter who takes the fortress is going to flame everyone else. But could you imagine if XxX took the fortress? I'm just glad it didn't slip into the wrong hands. But of course one of you are going to quote me and say how wrong i am

[Krad_Red]

Well If i make speak, heres what i think happened and worked. Prior to Attacking the fortress, Immo union and XxX Union formed an alliance, while attacking until we hit the heart. So it wasn't XxX vs Immo Than whoever attacks the gate. We all united and attacked as one. Which after wards proved my point. when we took the Fortress and had to defend for 30mins Barely no one really attacked because they were too busy killing each other. Yes numbers had to do with it, but in all fairness Numbers really didn't have much of a role in this, You guys just had to put all your forces at the gates that could attack us and such but since to that Dumb glitch we couldn't fight back, Either way no matter how you see it no matter who takes the fortress is going to flame everyone else. But could you imagine if XxX took the fortress? I'm just glad it didn't slip into the wrong hands. But of course one of you are going to quote me and say how wrong i am

Personally, I woulda rather it go to xxx, just cuz I hate the fact that G0D and Lion's ego's havent stopped growing for the past 5 months. But regardless of who had it, the flaming would have been incessant.

[fortroy]

Personally, I woulda rather it go to xxx, just cuz I hate the fact that G0D and Lion's ego's havent stopped growing for the past 5 months. But regardless of who had it, the flaming would have been incessant.

Sorry "G0D" only came back for the fortress, only about 1 1/2 months ago.. growing ego for 5months? heh
anyways "G0D's" ego cant grow cause "G0D" always had a +11 ego ^_^

much love

[tyfly]

Personally, I woulda rather it go to xxx, just cuz I hate the fact that G0D and Lion's ego's havent stopped growing for the past 5 months. But regardless of who had it, the flaming would have been incessant.

Sorry "G0D" only came back for the fortress, only about 1 1/2 months ago.. growing ego for 5months? heh
anyways "G0D's" ego cant grow cause "G0D" always had a +11 ego ^_^

much love

LOL wonder who this is, Only God knows

Btw Krad i'd rather have Lion and God's ego than XxX talking shit cuz thats all they do all day, they think there the shit, we go to pvp, first off there full sun, than they got euro buffs and 7 clerics healing one of them

[deep.in]

l33t H4X and female nakid chars

[IHateWhiners]

Whining post from Krad again

Its a shame that exist such player and srf member as u. Can u stop whining?

Discussing about topic and suddenly shooting names again. Stay on the topic whiners.

Far and square. Immortality win. Say grats, stop whine, n discuss the topic? Did immor went around all forums they won the fortress. Did screenshots appear? They dont even talk in union chat.

If thats ego to u...then u mus one of a crap_red. Stay on topic pls.