all make a bug report on how the fortress cant be won

[PhizzDaShizz]

AkillerNXC
For gods sake, why do you think that nobody else knows how to play a euro? Your not the only ones. -.- Yes, I've been in a euro party that knows what they are doing.

Kay, the only reason euro's can tank better is because of the buffs that other people give them. Put those exact same buffs on a chinese.

Capped blader, +5 garm set, 30% ice shield, warrior buffs, cleric buffs, and bless, alone can tank a wizard for ages.

Now add a bard and throw in ironwall to that, and he can tank anyone. Cleric can heal AND he has pots. Therefore, mixed, imo, will always be better.

At first, avalon seemed great, the idea of a bunch of people getting together and making a full legit union that basically controls the server is a great idea. 'Till your ego's started getting in the way and now your just as bad, if not worse, then the bots which you guys hate so much.

because most people dont know how to play euros in a party there all about the one man army. not saying veryone just alot of people think this.
a euro warrior has alot more defense then a chinese blader, a wiz has alot more attack power then any int, and a cleric can heal which no chinese can do well at all. Yes you could do all that to a crappy chinese blader but you could do the same to a warrior and have an even better effect or if your smart you give them to a wiz which in turn could tank a chinese for an hour and then nuke the shit out of them for 30k.
mixed will never be better because what will the chinese do for the euros? nothing is the correct answer. if i was against your fully buffed euro blader with my fully buffed euro wizard i would run around kill your whole party while you do 50 dmg to me then after there dead you wont have fence and buffs anymore and i will one shot you.
As for your comments about Avalon yes we do think we are good for being LEGIT and a owning a server which no one else has done YET and i dont think its as bad as the bots who brag ALOT more about stuff they let a bot and there credit card do for them if it werent for that they would have either quit or they would be the level 10 noob in jangan begging for "10k plys". I rest my case.

[nightbloom]

lol Wasting your breath. If you try to explain then you are arrogant and worse than bots.

[bucactao]

everything was realllllly glitchy like they were saying they could attack us through the gate I could barely attack anyone on the top but they could seem to hit me from anywhere and they had like unlimited range....and it seems like they can repair the gate wayyyy to fast IMO they need to fix some of these bugs and maybe then someone can have a chance to take of the fortress

[CLOT]

o_O
Imperial union on Mercury took the fortress from dragonsquad

but 1 other big blue name guild helps us (Rebellen) alot in breaking down the gate and other towers, guessed we have the right tatic and coordination even with potential enenmies at the heart

[rookiE_]

<< Keep the bot accusations out of the thread -Mano >>

[Necrobat]

<< Edited -Mano >>

RIght, because they're going to bot a cleric and a 1H tank respectively. Because they can set their bots up to work in parties.

They just don't like typing, and finding a point to do so while training with us is HARD. If you ever see us training, you'll know why.

[rookiE_]

<< Keep the bot accusations out of the thread -Mano >>

[bucactao]

whats a bot?

[Necrobat]

<< Edited -Mano >>

They haven't botted, and the Fly ban has been discussed before. But hey, that's all anyone can seem to pull out.

[rookiE_]

<< Keep the bot accusations out of the thread -Mano >>

[Corrupt]

And the passed was over a year ago? So why does it always seem to come up as a "they" when you all seem to say "one" person.

Gratz at hiding behind a new account. Since you were in the guild, why not say who you are? Since anyone can talk I could say "I've been in 200 guilds and know every player in the game, and know what they're doing 24/7."

[Necrobat]

hmmmm... i knew them before you were born son. so dont tell me they never botted i was in the guild with them.

EDIT: i have the same question as bucactao.. whats a bot?

Yeah, I doubt you've known them for over 17 years. Don't come saying people bot and then ask what one is. That shows you don't know what you're talking about.

Again, I say, they don't like typing. They communicate using Ventrillo, but maybe ya didn't think of that.

[borat2]

i'd say its pretty fair.
We nearly lost the fortress this war, they made it to the heart and gotit to about 50% hp when the time expired...

Also... some of you may not know this...there are only 14 Deputy commanders and Commander from the occupying guild that can use the repair hammers.

With any amount of decent organization the fortress can be taken away..

The issues I have seen first hand is that there is a language barrier between many guilds/unions, which means you cannot get enough people organized to attack with hammers rather then killing each other.

Those who want to send a bug report go ahead... they will go unanswered as the last 50,000 have..

Limiting the defending guild to 100 people is about retarded...

The Fortress war is simply about rewarding the most organized union.

you sure about the deputy part? doesn't any guild in the union of the defender also have 4players who can use those repair items?
i do have to agree with you on babel its getting closer and closer i hear that couple servers changed owners so its indeed possible.
think it all depends on how your union relation is towards the whole server that also plays with how people will attack it, if the guild that defend has a decent reputation some people simply wont attack like they would if that guild was hated

[Necrobat]

No, only the holding guild has the Deputy rank. There are five people on the defending side capable of repairing, and the hammers have a cooldown of 5 minutes each.

[rookiE_]

<< Keep the bot accusations out of this thread -Mano >>

[Necrobat]

They communicate using Ventrillo, but maybe ya didn't think of that.

<< Edited -Mano >>

The only dicussion of bots they do is about how we're gonna beat them. But hey, you think all discussion of bots has to be about using them.

I'm not trying to be cool or anything. If I was trying to be cool by modern day standards, I wouldn't even be on here.

[Manowar]

Remember this is a topic about fortress wars, not about who bots. Try to stay on topic and if there's any more accusations, report it rather than respond to it.

[rookiE_]

..enough said its pointless for you to keep defending them.. all im gonna say is im talking about being on vent with them like 2 years ago so yeah, no fortress war then << see im talking about fortress war heh>>

but yeah the fw is messed up. we need the same fix from csro or it will be pointless, but still fun to own the nubs who were stupid enough not to sit in the fortress and hold each others hands =]

[CZAR]

Wow...made a post and dont know where it went

Hands down the best Union on Persia is BrotherS Union...they have the a ton of level 80's and the only pure euro guild on the server (i think)...they have successfully defended the fortress since fort wars began and each week they get stronger...they add more guilds , more players hit cap and of course those who dont want to fight for fortress just join the union to make it stronger.

However, they lost the fortress...a new guild now occupies it and the server did not stack all its players into one Union...matter of fact the guild that won it doesnt have a strong union or a strong guild....

Fortress is about server vs one union....STOP whining and complaining what you want is to have the fortress handed to you...

Take away splash??? The ppl that are for this simply do not want to work with anyone to win...taking out splash is the equivalent of stacking all the attacking guilds in one Union and handing over the keys to fortress, this is unfair to the defenders they wouldnt last 2 seconds once the gate is breached.

Learn how to work together, recruit more players, go become part of a better team, go level, go learn the game, make alliances, learn how to use your character. These are my suggestions...i have posted said this before whenever i see a post about what build is ELITE...

"the worth of any build is not measured by putting on a cape and saying 1, 2, 3....go"

Now all of you need to rethink the make up of your unions, guilds and parties and stop blaming a prefectly workable system for your inability to put aside the crap and work together...we did it....and if we can do it so can everyone else!

[Deacon]

Please no flaming, else I am forced to lock this.. That would be sad, wouldn't it?

[Antonio]

It wouldn't be sad. Because it would lower Fly's and nighwhore's ego.

btw. I'm having trouble with this forum in firefox. Every time I click reply or something I log in, and it takes me back to log in.

[CLOT]

Wow...made a post and dont know where it went

Hands down the best Union on Persia is BrotherS Union...they have the a ton of level 80's and the only pure euro guild on the server (i think)...they have successfully defended the fortress since fort wars began and each week they get stronger...they add more guilds , more players hit cap and of course those who dont want to fight for fortress just join the union to make it stronger.

However, they lost the fortress...a new guild now occupies it and the server did not stack all its players into one Union...matter of fact the guild that won it doesnt have a strong union or a strong guild....

Fortress is about server vs one union....STOP whining and complaining what you want is to have the fortress handed to you...

Take away splash??? The ppl that are for this simply do not want to work with anyone to win...taking out splash is the equivalent of stacking all the attacking guilds in one Union and handing over the keys to fortress, this is unfair to the defenders they wouldnt last 2 seconds once the gate is breached.

Learn how to work together, recruit more players, go become part of a better team, go level, go learn the game, make alliances, learn how to use your character. These are my suggestions...i have posted said this before whenever i see a post about what build is ELITE...

"the worth of any build is not measured by putting on a cape and saying 1, 2, 3....go"

Now all of you need to rethink the make up of your unions, guilds and parties and stop blaming a prefectly workable system for your inability to put aside the crap and work together...we did it....and if we can do it so can everyone else!

nicely said, thats wat we did to overthrow the occupying guild on mercury

[GodsAngel]

it can be won, people are too retarded to know how. A bit of smart strategizing before hand and some quick tactical thinking on the field. With a good union will get you the fortress.

Remember 50 80s in1 guild isn't going to get you the fortress, you need a union, every union guilds deputies and engineers can use hammers.

[risi]

It wouldn't be sad. Because it would lower Fly's and nighwhore's ego.

btw. I'm having trouble with this forum in firefox. Every time I click reply or something I log in, and it takes me back to log in.

Fly and Nightwhore are so proud to be a euro and they know everything about how you have to play within a euro party, Fly is proud of beiing an euro, cant give him wrong, but euros are like Silkroads Special Forces, don't let someone play it that thinks he's all it, and Night is a sheep

Try cleaning your firefox browser (privacy,..) Ctrl+Shift+Del

[skandal]

I just lol'ed when i saw this pathetic thread...And of course all the lvl 23's turning it into a bot flaming fest...
On topic : no mustaras, the fortress war cannot be won BY YOU GUYS.imperial did not even get a gate below 50% because they never deserved.next time send your clerics with hammers, you might get more dmg.

So, here's how the fw happened on alexander (I was in the defending guild so i know what i'm talking about).Imperial starts by attacking the east gate(hmm do i remember correct?) and they keep bashing a little, but our wiz's push them back.Then they decided.why keep bashing the same gate , let's surprise them.and they came @ west gate.nobody told them about union chat tho, so NH regrouped and pushed them back.They abbandoned the w gate and came to the east.same deal.then they made a final push on south gate.to no avail.

Honestly, i was thinking:how can a whole union who owns 50% of the best players in the server loose so bad?Was it bad tactics?partialy..only their leaders are to blaim for that.
Were they outnumbered?HELL NO.

Then what happened ?

it's simple...before posting bug reports as to how FW is impossible to be won by the attacking guild...i suggest looking at yourselves...I actually taped the FW and made a lil movie on youtube.If it had a better quality you would see that almost NO imperial member was holding a hammer...all were armed with their weps hoping they can kill somebody on the wall..that's the arogant noob mentality that took u down...before u start killing defending members, try breaking the door first? One massive push would've been enough to break the gate in a few mins and rape us...but meh, as i said...why hold a hammer and actually be usefull, when you can hold your sun, die and come here complaining "it's too hard".

[nightbloom]

It wouldn't be sad. Because it would lower Fly's and nighwhore's ego.

btw. I'm having trouble with this forum in firefox. Every time I click reply or something I log in, and it takes me back to log in.

Fly and Nightwhore are so proud to be a euro and they know everything about how you have to play within a euro party, Fly is proud of beiing an euro, cant give him wrong, but euros are like Silkroads Special Forces, don't let someone play it that thinks he's all it, and Night is a sheep

Try cleaning your firefox browser (privacy,..) Ctrl+Shift+Del

Id comment but.... I cant understand anything you said. lol

[JacksColon]

On Rome, the problem is the stupid people who just stand around doing absolutely nothing. I guess they just want to get in and not work for it. Pinoy Union seemed to be doing most of the work with every few people online at the time of the FW. We were better organized than the last FW and were able to eventually, with SOME help, get the gate down. However, once we got in, it was a bit of mass confusion. Also, during the gate seige, a lot of us DCed simultaneously. I know some defenders DCed too. Just some weird server hiccup, but regardless, it made it a bit hard to regroup after that. we lost all our PTs and then the gate came down and it was hard to regroup. we almost got the last guard tower down, but ran out of time. The main problem we have is the time slot for the FW. I honestly think they should rotate the time slot, it would make it fair. I don't really mind the weak hammers too much, although it would be nice to be able to shoot the people on top of the walls back.

The biggest problem on Rome though was the turk guilds. A HUGE turk guild was just sitting at the teleport to the FW. They were chatting, pvping, even setting up stalls out there!!! Then, the turk guilds inside at the fortress were attacking any and everything that moved instead of going after the gate. They were just randomly attacking..even attacking fellow turks!! haha

[risi]

It wouldn't be sad. Because it would lower Fly's and nighwhore's ego.

btw. I'm having trouble with this forum in firefox. Every time I click reply or something I log in, and it takes me back to log in.

Fly and Nightwhore are so proud to be a euro and they know everything about how you have to play within a euro party, Fly is proud of beiing an euro, cant give him wrong, but euros are like Silkroads Special Forces, don't let someone play it that thinks he's all it, and Night is a sheep

Try cleaning your firefox browser (privacy,..) Ctrl+Shift+Del

Id comment but.... I cant understand anything you said. lol

Yeh my english is not so good

[Replenish]

Here a screenshot I took when I glitched into the gate after I died, check out my staus effects all put on by the blader BEHIND the gate........... not to mention all the NPC archers shooting THROUGH the gate lols.

[Posei]

I just lol'ed when i saw this pathetic thread...And of course all the lvl 23's turning it into a bot flaming fest...
On topic : no mustaras, the fortress war cannot be won BY YOU GUYS.imperial did not even get a gate below 50% because they never deserved.next time send your clerics with hammers, you might get more dmg.

So, here's how the fw happened on alexander (I was in the defending guild so i know what i'm talking about).Imperial starts by attacking the east gate(hmm do i remember correct?) and they keep bashing a little, but our wiz's push them back.Then they decided.why keep bashing the same gate , let's surprise them.and they came @ west gate.nobody told them about union chat tho, so NH regrouped and pushed them back.They abbandoned the w gate and came to the east.same deal.then they made a final push on south gate.to no avail.

Honestly, i was thinking:how can a whole union who owns 50% of the best players in the server loose so bad?Was it bad tactics?partialy..only their leaders are to blaim for that.
Were they outnumbered?HELL NO.

Then what happened ?

it's simple...before posting bug reports as to how FW is impossible to be won by the attacking guild...i suggest looking at yourselves...I actually taped the FW and made a lil movie on youtube.If it had a better quality you would see that almost NO imperial member was holding a hammer...all were armed with their weps hoping they can kill somebody on the wall..that's the arogant noob mentality that took u down...before u start killing defending members, try breaking the door first? One massive push would've been enough to break the gate in a few mins and rape us...but meh, as i said...why hold a hammer and actually be usefull, when you can hold your sun, die and come here complaining "it's too hard".

I love to see Term and Ice fail miserably LoL.