Priam wrote:Well, the policy is very justified. And 2 children is twice as many as one, and they're allready very populated. Do the math, it's not good.
Nor is forcing women to abort their pregnancies.
I allready took a stand on that, the same as you btw. And nowhere was my reply implying that forcing anyone is good, it was merely pointing out that the policy in theory is a good thing.
Oh, I know. I know we agree. I'm just disagreeing that the policy in theory is good.
XuChu wrote:One child policy is a total fail,educated people in the city where the police can't be bribed can't have children. Poor people in the rural areas, they have like 6 kids on average because they can get away with it by bribing the local village watch. **** the one child policy, also **** the scums who link human rights to one child policy.
+1, even if China has a one child policy, there are too many uneducated people out in the far west and south rural areas who have a ton of kids. China's population is still growing uncontrolably if you didn't know.
I don't think its too much of a human rights issue (well china is communist anyways, you can't expect much) because your not really killing a live child or throwing children away so its not an important human rights issue
I disagree. I think it IS a human rights issue. And I'm not talking about the fetuses. Women's reproductive rights are being violated. Forcing a woman to have an abortion is a violation of her reproductive rights. I believe in the right to choose, regardless of population. I would hate to see abortion as an option taken away here in the US and I would also hate to see it mandatory in any place, like china.
The rights of the people cease to have weight when they become a burden on civilization. Mass over population or major birth control. One could easily lead to overconsumption of resources or lack of available resources for more than a few million people which leads to a host of other problems and one is something people have been practicing for ages not having children when they don't have the resources to sustain them.
i disagree, though i can see where your going. It is however, never justified forcing people to do things against there will.
people jus need help seeing the right way...you can't make humanity suffer for a few humans who are being greedy. Besides i don't see you saying anything in the defense of the aborted babies. The gov't isn't forcing them to kill there kids they're doing it themselves...now whose denying who there basic humans rights to exist....
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i personally think that both parents should be sterilized (thats how the humane society deals with undomesticated cats). of course there's health problems.
XuChu wrote:One child policy is a total fail,educated people in the city where the police can't be bribed can't have children. Poor people in the rural areas, they have like 6 kids on average because they can get away with it by bribing the local village watch. **** the one child policy, also **** the scums who link human rights to one child policy.
then this is a problem with the authority not not the policy. The policy has its uses and imo would be a good one if enforced and regulated properly. Personally i'd impose a law that says all extra children born be automatically adopted and raised by the gov't to fill whatever jobs or positions need filling be it blue collar, white collar, or military....but im insane....
Sure because China is a country that has the money to adopt millions of kids.
JacksColon wrote:
Priam wrote:
XemnasXD wrote:
JacksColon wrote:
Jstar1 wrote: +1, even if China has a one child policy, there are too many uneducated people out in the far west and south rural areas who have a ton of kids. China's population is still growing uncontrolably if you didn't know.
I don't think its too much of a human rights issue (well china is communist anyways, you can't expect much) because your not really killing a live child or throwing children away so its not an important human rights issue
I disagree. I think it IS a human rights issue. And I'm not talking about the fetuses. Women's reproductive rights are being violated. Forcing a woman to have an abortion is a violation of her reproductive rights. I believe in the right to choose, regardless of population. I would hate to see abortion as an option taken away here in the US and I would also hate to see it mandatory in any place, like china.
The rights of the people cease to have weight when they become a burden on civilization. Mass over population or major birth control. One could easily lead to overconsumption of resources or lack of available resources for more than a few million people which leads to a host of other problems and one is something people have been practicing for ages not having children when they don't have the resources to sustain them.
i disagree, though i can see where your going. It is however, never justified forcing people to do things against there will.
+1
Seeing as many people feel so strongly about Chinese people's human rights, why don't they take these people go over to their country, that ways they can have as many as they want.
JacksColon wrote:
Priam wrote:Well, the policy is very justified. And 2 children is twice as many as one, and they're allready very populated. Do the math, it's not good.
Nor is forcing women to abort their pregnancies.
It was against the law in the first place to have more than one kid, so you were in for it when you got knocked up. Those who want only a boy, well it's their choice, the government even gives tax reduction to families who have a girl instead of boy
I'm not saying anything about abortions done out of free will, since this is a human choice. Not caring wherever you stand on the subject of abortion, forcing someone to do that, even when they're breaking the law. is wrong.
I'm not saying anything about abortions done out of free will, since this is a human choice. Not caring wherever you stand on the subject of abortion, forcing someone to do that, even when they're breaking the law. is wrong.
they wouldn't be forced to do it if they weren't breaking the law. The cause of the abortion is that the parents have too many kids. If they didn't have the child, and there are numerous products and methods available to prevent child birth, they wouldn't have to have the abortion.
The gov't is setting the standard and regulating the people. Its the couples choice to decide to kill their baby girl because they want to have a boy instead. Its the couples decision to have more than one child as regulated by the gov't KNOWING full and well that the result of that pregnancy will probably lead to an abortion of some kind. No one is forcing anything the gov't is asking for self control, whats so hard about that.
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The girl/boy thing is very sick btw, Just take a look at the movie JacksColon posted, the women in question litterally said it wouldn't make any sense to have a girl. that having a girl wouldn't do anyone any good.
Priam wrote:The girl/boy thing is very sick btw, Just take a look at the movie JacksColon posted, the women in question litterally said it wouldn't make any sense to have a girl. that having a girl wouldn't do anyone any good.
Priam wrote:The girl/boy thing is very sick btw, Just take a look at the movie JacksColon posted, the women in question litterally said it wouldn't make any sense to have a girl. that having a girl wouldn't do anyone any good.
Freaks me out.
yeah I hate how some asians think that having only boys will only bring better advantages. That isn't true and we aren't living in a feaudalistic system anymore..get it into your thick skulls!!
china's boy/girl ratio is very far apart, theres anaylists who say that soon there arent going to be enough women to go around, which really is bad in the long run.
Priam wrote:The girl/boy thing is very sick btw, Just take a look at the movie JacksColon posted, the women in question litterally said it wouldn't make any sense to have a girl. that having a girl wouldn't do anyone any good.
Freaks me out.
yeah I hate how some asians think that having only boys will only bring better advantages. That isn't true and we aren't living in a feaudalistic system anymore..get it into your thick skulls!!
china's boy/girl ratio is very far apart, theres anaylists who say that soon there arent going to be enough women to go around, which really is bad in the long run.
Priam wrote:The girl/boy thing is very sick btw, Just take a look at the movie JacksColon posted, the women in question litterally said it wouldn't make any sense to have a girl. that having a girl wouldn't do anyone any good.
Freaks me out.
yeah I hate how some asians think that having only boys will only bring better advantages. That isn't true and we aren't living in a feaudalistic system anymore..get it into your thick skulls!!
china's boy/girl ratio is very far apart, theres anaylists who say that soon there arent going to be enough women to go around, which really is bad in the long run.
You should at least learn to understand a culture b4 you start bashing their ideals. The are Matriarchal societies and cultures that still exist in Asia, it happens that china is not one of them. You can't view a person cultural history as void when trying to bash them for the way they are today. Even in the US societies are pretty patriarchal. I've heard several people on this site express the importance of an heir of the bloodline who can carry on their family name. The difference is in America you can have as many kids as you want till you reach your desired outcome. In China you've got one shot. Same Cultural ideals of male dominance only different circumstances. I wonder how many Americans would forgo having a daughter just to get a Son if we had the same limitations in place.
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