hi im new here, ice bow at 90 cap?

iBow · Post by **iBow** » Wed Jan 09, 2008 9:56 pm

ive already decided for 90 pach and 90 ice (ive done so many builds with fire i wanted to do something new) , the problem is, i dont know if i should go 90 fire and 30 light, or 60 light and 60 fire, i guess 90 light 30 fires an option, not one i particulary like, but still and option. oh and i am a 2:1 int bow. in your opinion which should i go with at 90 cap?

iBow · Post by **iBow** » Wed Jan 09, 2008 10:20 pm

30 views and no reply, you guys are giving a great impression here...

Necrobat · Post by **Necrobat** » Wed Jan 09, 2008 10:23 pm

I'm not the most knowledgeable about bow builds, but I can tell you an Ice bow isn't going to be the greatest in PvP. A lot of people have ice immunity on their gear now, and if they don't, they've got Holy Spell from a cleric which cancels it.

I wouldn't be able to suggest any alternatives though.

iBow · Post by **iBow** » Wed Jan 09, 2008 10:30 pm

yeah i realize, im just tired of fire, plus, at 80, fire only offers about 200-300 more damage, which is practically nothing at that lvl, and having freezing and frostbite in pvm is cool so, eh ill go with the slightly less damage but better effect imbue...

darkmaster21 · Post by **darkmaster21** » Wed Jan 09, 2008 10:31 pm

I would do:

90 Light (Imbue) (And get the lighting nuke since the light nuke is the most powerful and ice is the weakest (don't get the ice one))

90 Ice (For defense)

Maybe some fire? I am not sure but since your a 2:1 INT you have somewhat high magical defense so maybe like 30 on Fire or so.

Barotix · Post by **Barotix** » Wed Jan 09, 2008 10:33 pm

iBow wrote:30 views and no reply, you guys are giving a great impression here...

30 views in 24 minutes. maybe if you posted in the right section, your answer would've been received earlier.
I'm going to ask you a few questions, after you answer those then maybe i might be able to help:

You're Hybrid; will you be planning on taking nukes for PvE?
Do you want extra phy atk, or extra mag atk?
Other than speed what use do you find with light?
As a 1:2 hybrid do you think it is wise to use fire without the imbue?
If you answered No to question one:
- Is Light useful without nukes?
- Since your light hybrid int, do you consider fire useful without nukes?
If you answered Yes to question one:
- In my own personal experience your nukes will have shorter range and do dmg comparable to your strong bow. Do you still want nukes?
- Since you're taking them for PvE; beyond PvE for example, in PvP will they have any use?
Are you aware of a possible ice immunity at lvl 80?

@dark, he is light int hybrid

darkmaster21 · Post by **darkmaster21** » Wed Jan 09, 2008 10:37 pm

Barotix wrote:@dark, he is light int hybrid

Yeah just noticed that in his post

I fixed my post

raysisfenix · Post by **raysisfenix** » Wed Jan 09, 2008 10:47 pm

90 ice, 90 light, 90 bow and 30 fire.

HertogJan · Post by **HertogJan** » Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:05 pm

Build is gonna stink anyways.

Hyrbid bow only needs a little Ice for a bit of snowshield. Everything you go over the well known 70:70 build you might as well switch to spear if you want to pvp decently.

iBow · Post by **iBow** » Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:34 pm

Barotix wrote:
iBow wrote:30 views and no reply, you guys are giving a great impression here...

30 views in 24 minutes. maybe if you posted in the right section, your answer would've been received earlier.
I'm going to ask you a few questions, after you answer those then maybe i might be able to help:

You're Hybrid; will you be planning on taking nukes for PvE?
Do you want extra phy atk, or extra mag atk?
Other than speed what use do you find with light?
As a 1:2 hybrid do you think it is wise to use fire without the imbue?
If you answered No to question one:
Is Light useful without nukes?
Since your light hybrid int, do you consider fire useful without nukes?
If you answered Yes to question one:
In my own personal experience your nukes will have shorter range and do dmg comparable to your strong bow. Do you still want nukes?
Since you're taking them for PvE; beyond PvE for example, in PvP will they have any use?
Are you aware of a possible ice immunity at lvl 80?

@dark, he is light int hybrid

no nukes, i think light would be useful since im looking for more mag power (ive made a pure str bower before, now im doing the reverse and proving that all builds can be done strongly) and light would give me speed and damage buff, and i dont think fire would be great without the imbue... i was only considering it for phys attack buff and mag def. i think 90ice 90 pach 90light 30 fire is decent for what i want

iBow · Post by **iBow** » Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:37 pm

HertogJan wrote:Build is gonna stink anyways.

Hyrbid bow only needs a little Ice for a bit of snowshield. Everything you go over the well known 70:70 build you might as well switch to spear if you want to pvp decently.

why all the negativity, as i stated, i like the ice imbue, and at ice at 90 i will have 60% damage to my mp (pretty sure) which will make me a better tank than you... plus i will be able to have high phys defense due to having ice at 90... so ice isnt useless, and i know most people are immune to it in pvp, as i also stated , i dont care too much about that... and i dont want another generic 70:70 build, unlike most people i like originality.

Midori · Post by **Midori** » Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:46 pm

people who don't have a shield aren't supposed to have ice immunity (mishap on jm's side)

so ice bow would be good if everything worked correctly, you just have to hope there isn't a cleric buffing them.

and fire is very overrated, light is just as good (if you can get the effect to last long enough to give a few more hits) and ice is also pretty good. people are just jealous of your unique build

HertogJan · Post by **HertogJan** » Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:52 pm

I am not acting overly negatively nor am I jealous or youre unique build. Yes it is unique, no I am not jealous.

I can survive most nukers with snowshield and kill them after there snowshield is over. You do less damage as a int bower, considering youre weapon doenst offer as much as mag. attack as a spear or sword. You having bow attacks witch are phy.attacks doenst change that. So I should be able to tank youre build totally easy.
You lose the shield or the HP passive and only gain more ranged attacks and on later levels also gain the knockback and stun arrow, wich IMO dont make up for losing the above mentioned bonusses for the glaive or s/s.

I just put in my 2 cents, if it comes over negative for you I couldn't care less, you should support the build you are trying or dont try it at all.

Sylhana · Post by **Sylhana** » Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:52 pm

If you can farm for more sp, I say go dual imbue ice and light. Even though many players flag ice immunity as a downside to ice imbue (lowered damage for freeze effects), having ice imbue still forces your opponents to seek that status immune buff (w/e it may be) for full immunity.

Ice is undoubtly better for pve rather than light imbue, since pacheon offers enough aoe (mind bow, explosive bow series) options as it is (plus the defence would be more useful for you). I would recommend max pacheon, light, ice, and 30 fire, taking fire only for fire shield series of which you should be immune yourself to ice

. With this build, you would do better in teamplay rather than 1on1. In share party grind, you'll be a valuable mob dragger and finisher

.

Oh, and WELCOME TO SRF!!! Hope you'll enjoy being a part of the sro community here :love:

Barotix · Post by **Barotix** » Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:54 pm

iBow wrote:
Barotix wrote:
iBow wrote:30 views and no reply, you guys are giving a great impression here...

30 views in 24 minutes. maybe if you posted in the right section, your answer would've been received earlier.
I'm going to ask you a few questions, after you answer those then maybe i might be able to help:

You're Hybrid; will you be planning on taking nukes for PvE?
Do you want extra phy atk, or extra mag atk?
Other than speed what use do you find with light?
As a 1:2 hybrid do you think it is wise to use fire without the imbue?
If you answered No to question one:
Is Light useful without nukes?
Since your light hybrid int, do you consider fire useful without nukes?
If you answered Yes to question one:
In my own personal experience your nukes will have shorter range and do dmg comparable to your strong bow. Do you still want nukes?
Since you're taking them for PvE; beyond PvE for example, in PvP will they have any use?
Are you aware of a possible ice immunity at lvl 80?

@dark, he is light int hybrid

no nukes, i think light would be useful since im looking for more mag power (ive made a pure str bower before, now im doing the reverse and proving that all builds can be done strongly) and light would give me speed and damage buff, and i dont think fire would be great without the imbue... i was only considering it for phys attack buff and mag def. i think 90ice 90 pach 90light 30 fire is decent for what i want

and i think you just answered your question

and welcome to srf: PM Key-J for a massive welcome post

iBow · Post by **iBow** » Thu Jan 10, 2008 12:01 am

i can see this being a really good forum, alot of positive people (thanks guys and girls) and enough negative people to keep people thinking about always improving a build... cool and thanks alot. oh and thanks for the welcoming!

HertogJan · Post by **HertogJan** » Thu Jan 10, 2008 12:03 am

Welcome btw, and sorry for being negative. I just totally dislike people making crappy builds with a bow.

If this works out I wil be the first to say youre awesome. But to much fecked up builds make a lot us bowers look silly >.<

nohunta · Post by **nohunta** » Thu Jan 10, 2008 12:15 am

If you really wanted something different go 90 Bow Light And Ice with 30 fire..Wont own in P2p like others said lol but hey.

iBow · Post by **iBow** » Thu Jan 10, 2008 12:45 am

HertogJan wrote:Welcome btw, and sorry for being negative. I just totally dislike people making crappy builds with a bow.

If this works out I wil be the first to say youre awesome. But to much fecked up builds make a lot us bowers look silly >.<

yeah i know what you mean, when i had my 40 pure str i said to everyone that pure str was the only bow, but with the new skills, and me creating a few hybrids, i have faith that this build wont totally blow... and thanks for the welcoming

iBow · Post by **iBow** » Thu Jan 10, 2008 12:46 am

oh and i think i will be overall stronger, i will just have sucky crits

jabbers · Post by **jabbers** » Thu Jan 10, 2008 1:50 am

if you want to be original do like 90 force or something, by then you'll have more defense bow moves, plus all those debuffs will just mess people bad, I don't know what you would sacrifice for force though , lol