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My point of life is just a repeating cycle. We cam from our parents and they come from there parents so on and so on. What it think to myself is why is it that us humans have the brain power to create all these incredible machines. Why are humans so special that we are the advanced one. I am not a religious person, In fact i don't believe in god at all but i think there is a purpose of life. The purpose of life is to live, raise your children, and die. The life cycle will never completely end. Even as we speak there are trillions of beings evolving into greater intelligent creatures. It might not be on earth but evolution is taking its time and every passing moment us humans advance a little forward. We as humans were destined for greatness. We are the chosen race to create peace, and love. But sadly in a world where religion decides what is right or what is wrong... The Cycle of life is affected. Because of many many human mishaps the life cycle is changing. Many animals are becoming extinct and also global warming is taking place. Yes The Cycle of life will only continue in its normal rate when humans are completely gone.


So yeah. Life really doent have a meaning. We are just alive to advance. And as we die you will know you left your imprint as one of the lucky ones to have the greatest gift of them all ...life.

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I think it would be neat to have it be like in the 1991 movie "Defending Your Life" with Albert Brooks. I think it's GREAT :D

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The point to life is to live.

If you can't understand that you're thinking too hard about it.
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damn Jack and Silver0 got here before me; i don't want to pull a Hilary Clinton, but i agree with everything jack said - and part of what silver said -_-"
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Reise wrote:The point to life is to live.

If you can't understand that you're thinking too hard about it.


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so your telling us all that since we can't make a big influence on anything, since we can't be like mozart or einstein, that we should all just throw away our hopes, goals, dreams, etc since we know we're gonna die? what kind of logic is that?

there are many people who are happy with their lives and do not make big achievements. I like my life and just because you scare me with this "my life is futile, so forget it" stuff, I'm not gonna go all emo and throw away my life goals.
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Jstar1 wrote:
Reise wrote:The point to life is to live.

If you can't understand that you're thinking too hard about it.


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so your telling us all that since we can't make a big influence on anything, since we can't be like mozart or einstein, that we should all just throw away our hopes, goals, dreams, etc since we know we're gonna die? what kind of logic is that?

there are many people who are happy with their lives and do not make big achievements. I like my life and just because you scare me with this "my life is futile, so forget it" stuff, I'm not gonna go all emo and throw away my life goals.


I doubt emos have goals to begin with.

And i agree with you both, the best thing to do with the time you have is enjoy it, what will happen next? it's not for any of us to decide since we won't be here for it.

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i believe this life is just a test for god ( heaven or hell ). ofcourse you can have fun and all, but never forget the real reason.

be kind to other poeple, be honest, share with your people, respect other people. believe in god. simply do all the things that make you a good person.

ofcourse you sometimes make mistakes, but hea... don't we all?

just follow these simple rules and believe me, you'll pass this test with an A+ :D
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Jstar1 wrote:
Reise wrote:The point to life is to live.

If you can't understand that you're thinking too hard about it.


+1093292827

so your telling us all that since we can't make a big influence on anything, since we can't be like mozart or einstein, that we should all just throw away our hopes, goals, dreams, etc since we know we're gonna die? what kind of logic is that?

there are many people who are happy with their lives and do not make big achievements. I like my life and just because you scare me with this "my life is futile, so forget it" stuff, I'm not gonna go all emo and throw away my life goals.


i did state in a later post that the initial post isnt my belief, i was just throwin it out there to generate discussion. my actual thoughts are lower down the page basically saying enjoy what we got given :P

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what I hate is the perverse misuse and misrepresentation of the word "emo". Back in the 1990s, it was a great form of music with many really good underground bands...the crap that is "emo" today is pure shit...sorry..I just had to vent about that...and "emo" kids didn't have a style back in the day..they were just people who liked the music..."emo" kids today are pseudo-goth wanna-bes :roll:
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I wasn't aware the term existed in the 90s.

And I figured the genre of screamo emo music was fairly new, and fairly gay.
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Trice wrote:
Jstar1 wrote:
Reise wrote:The point to life is to live.

If you can't understand that you're thinking too hard about it.


+1093292827

so your telling us all that since we can't make a big influence on anything, since we can't be like mozart or einstein, that we should all just throw away our hopes, goals, dreams, etc since we know we're gonna die? what kind of logic is that?

there are many people who are happy with their lives and do not make big achievements. I like my life and just because you scare me with this "my life is futile, so forget it" stuff, I'm not gonna go all emo and throw away my life goals.


i did state in a later post that the initial post isnt my belief, i was just throwin it out there to generate discussion. my actual thoughts are lower down the page basically saying enjoy what we got given :P



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JacksColon wrote:what I hate is the perverse misuse and misrepresentation of the word "emo". Back in the 1990s, it was a great form of music with many really good underground bands...the crap that is "emo" today is pure shit...sorry..I just had to vent about that...and "emo" kids didn't have a style back in the day..they were just people who liked the music..."emo" kids today are pseudo-goth wanna-bes :roll:


Well, if more and more people tend to use a term in a different way, you can say its meaning changed. So i think even when the first "emos" weren't what they are today, the term has certainly changed its meaning so there isn't a "misuse" of the word.

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I've actually been thinking about this a lot lately. What is the point of life, we are all going to die sooner or later. What happens when you die? Is there really an afterlife, or are we just gone? Is their any point of spending our youth in school and then university and then having a job, when we are going to die and lose it all anyways?

I dont know why but I have been thinking about death a lot recently (even though I'm only 16 and have a long ways to live hopefully :) ). I'd like to hear other people's opinions about what happens after death.

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yes, what is in life for ourselves. that's what most ppl tend to think.

i say go out and make a contribution to the greater good of humanity, so that when u die, u'll have left a legacy that younger ppl can build on. ur body dies, but ur name lasts as long as civilization lasts.
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I know what you mean I often find myself lost in hough pondering my own existence, wondering how it all happened and hoping not to die un remember and unloved.
In my opinion dying not remembered is like not living at all.
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Reise wrote:I wasn't aware the term existed in the 90s.

And I figured the genre of screamo emo music was fairly new, and fairly gay.


oh yes, there were some good "emo" and "screamo" bands back in the day. but, as with anything, it becomes "cool" then it becomes a parody of itself and is really a joke at this point.

bands like promise ring, I Hate Myself and even fugazi were more "emo" than this crap.

A little view into my musical past (of course, I have always liked metal too):

First wave (1985-1994)
In 1985 in Washington, D.C., Ian MacKaye and Guy Picciotto, veterans of the DC hardcore music scene, decided to shift away from what they saw as the constraints of the basic style of hardcore and the escalating violence within the scene. They took their music in a more personal direction with a far greater sense of experimentation, bringing forth MacKaye's Embrace and Picciotto's Rites of Spring. The style of music developed by Embrace and Rites of Spring soon became its own sound. (Hüsker Dü's 1984 album Zen Arcade is often cited as a major influence for the new sound.) As a result of the renewed spirit of experimentation and musical innovation that developed the new scene, the summer of 1985 soon came to be known in the scene as "Revolution Summer".[1]

Where the term emo actually originated is uncertain, but members of Rites of Spring mentioned in a 1985 interview in Flipside Magazine that some of their fans had started using the term to describe their music. By the early 90s, it was not uncommon for the early DC scene to be referred to as emo-core, though it's unclear when the term shifted.

Within a short time, the D.C. emo sound began to influence other bands such as Moss Icon, Nation of Ulysses, Dag Nasty, Soulside, Shudder To Think, Fire Party, Marginal Man, and Gray Matter, many of which were released on MacKaye's Dischord Records. The original wave of DC emo finally ended in late 1994 with the collapse of Hoover.

As the D.C. scene expanded, other scenes began to develop with a similar sound and DIY ethic. In San Diego in the early 1990s, Gravity Records released a number of records in the hardcore emo style. Bands of the period included Heroin, Indian Summer, Angel Hair, Antioch Arrow, Universal Order of Armageddon, Swing Kids, and Mohinder. Also in California, Ebullition Records released records by bands of the same vein, such as Still Life and Portraits of Past, as well as more traditional hardcore punk bands, all having various social and political themes in common.

At the same time, in the New York/New Jersey area, bands such as Native Nod, Merel, 1.6 Band, Policy of 3, Rye Coalition, Iconoclast and Quicksand[2] were feeling the same impulse. Many of these bands were involved with the ABC No Rio club scene in New York, itself a response to the violence and stagnation in the scene and with the bands that played at CBGBs, the only other small venue for hardcore in New York at the time. Much of this wave of emo, particularly the San Diego scene, began to shift towards a more chaotic and aggressive form of emo, nicknamed screamo.

By and large, the more hardcore style of emo began to fade as many of the early era groups disbanded. However, aspects of the sound remained in bands such as Four Hundred Years and Yaphet Kotto. Also, a handful of modern bands continue to reflect emo's hardcore origins, including Circle Takes the Square, Hot Cross, City of Caterpillar, Funeral Diner, and A Day in Black and White.
Following the disbanding of Embrace in 1986, MacKaye established the influential group Fugazi, and was soon joined by Picciotto. While Fugazi itself is not typically categorized as emo, the band's music is cited as an influence by popular second-wave bands such as Sunny Day Real Estate Braid,and Jimmy Eat World.[5]


Early influence
In California - particularly in the Bay Area - bands such as Jawbreaker and Samiam began to incorporate influences from the "D.C. sound" into a poppier framework; The former's music was described by Andy Greenwald as "a sonic shot-gun marriage between the bristly heft of hardcore, the song-writing sensibility of Cali pop-punk, and the tortured artistry of D.C. emo".[6] Other bands soon reflected the same sense of rough melody, including Still Life and Long Island's Garden Variety.

Also in the early 90s, bands like Lifetime reacted in their own way to the demise of youth crew styled straight-edge hardcore and desired to seek out a new direction. While their music was often classified as emo, it was also considered to be melodic hardcore. In response to the more metal direction their hardcore peers were taking, Lifetime initially decided to slow down and soften their music, adding more personal lyrics. The band later added a blend of speed, aggression, and melody that defined their sound. Lifetime's sound, lyrics, and style were a virtual blueprint for later bands, including Saves the Day, Taking Back Sunday, and The Movielife.


Second wave (1994–2000)
As Fugazi and the Dischord Records scene became more and more popular in the indie underground of the early 1990s, new bands began to spring up. Combining Fugazi with the post-punk influences of Mission of Burma and Hüsker Dü, a new genre of emo emerged.

Perhaps the key moment was the release of the album Diary by Sunny Day Real Estate in 1994. Given Sub Pop's then-recent success with Nirvana and Soundgarden, the label was able to bring much wider attention to the release than the typical indie release, including major advertisements in Rolling Stone. The heavier label support allowed the band to secure performances on TV shows, including The Jon Stewart Show. As a result, the album received widespread national attention.

As more and more people learned about the band, particularly via the fledgling World Wide Web, the band was given the tag emo. Even where Fugazi had not been considered emo, the new generation of fans shifted the tag from the earlier hardcore style to this more indie rock style of emo. It was not uncommon for Sunny Day and its peers to be labeled with the full "emo-core". However, when pressed to explain "emo", many fans split the genre into two brands: the "hardcore emo" practiced in the early days and the newer "indie emo".

In the years that followed, several major regions of "indie emo" emerged. The most significant appeared in the Midwest in the mid-90s. Many of the bands were influenced by the same sources, but with an even more tempered sound. This brand of emo was often referred to as "Midwestern emo" given the geographic location of the bands, with several of the best-known bands hailing from the areas around Chicago, Kansas City, Omaha and Milwaukee. The initial bands in this category included Boy's Life and Cap'n Jazz. In ensuing years, bands such as The Promise Ring, Braid, Elliott, Bright Eyes, Cursive, and The Get Up Kids emerged from the same scene and gained national attention.
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GrindingEternaly wrote:life is :
being born, having sex, and finally being dead. basically everything else is to mask the fact that we don;t have long to live. really tbh we have the same purpose as animals. well thats my 3 cents :P


true, sometimes I think the same :D

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