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They need condoms. This would help with the HIV/AIDs problems as well as other christian countries, more specifically catholic, that are having problems with their demographics.
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Crumpets wrote:
Icealya wrote:Yeah yeah, old news...

I knew that since I was 12 or something...

And chinese people also leave their just born daughters at someone's door because they want to have a boy...


He's not saying he just found out, hes trying to start a discussion on the matter.

IMO it's acceptable .. And should honestly be set in place for more parts of the wrold. Africa for example? Hell even some European countries. Ugh the nearest house near us lives a family with 9+ kids, for the sole puprose of child benefits. 1 Child policy will let people focus more and solve alot of overcrowding problems, not just in China.

Yes I fully understand the desire of having multiple children, or siblings. But greed has to be put aside for growth.


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This rules been active since I was born. Its why my sister and I are 12 years old apart, she was born after we came to Canada.

The rule doesn't really work on all population though.
The rich people don't mind paying the "fines" for having more child.
The poor regions just have them and never report to the government about the second child and on...
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China is doomed unless they somehow get to import foreign females to compensate for the lack of chinese females. The whole world needs to help providing China with females, cuz if China collapses, there will be distrastrous consequences for the economy and the the existence of the entire world. Or maybe not...Hey I'm no professor.
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Juey wrote:China is doomed unless they somehow get to import foreign females to compensate for the lack of chinese females. The whole world needs to help providing China with females, cuz if China collapses, there will be distrastrous consequences for the economy and the the existence of the entire world.


Or, the population would naturally decrease, job wages would be more competitive, and less of our work would be outsourced.
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the one child policy doesn't mean you can't have many children, you can adopt. in the rural and poor regions of china, families who can't afford to raise their kids send them up for adoption. chinese families need to look at those kids if they ever want a large family. my aunt adopted 3 kids herself cuz she couldn't conceive.
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Lol.. Jeez.. Kinda crazy over there, 1 kid thing eh? What about twins? or triplets of even quadruplets lol!
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twins (triplets, quadri...blah) are seen as one kid. it's actually a "one birth policy."

because of this, women in china are taking advantage of fertility drugs and conceiving more twins.
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JacksColon wrote:I think this is an interesting aspect of the policy that doesn't often get told, or that many people ignore:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=H4OWJlyaHt0&feature=related


i actually watch that video, it was interesting but im still neutral on this subject
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One child policy is necessary imo. I see nothing wrong with. Population control is something this world desperately needs.
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One child policy is a total fail,educated people in the city where the police can't be bribed can't have children. Poor people in the rural areas, they have like 6 kids on average because they can get away with it by bribing the local village watch.
**** the one child policy, also **** the scums who link human rights to one child policy.

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They're not linkin human rights to the policy, but to the ways it's enforced.
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i lol'd at this
But the controversial restrictions have also led to a serious gender imbalance, as some couples choose to abort female foetuses in order to make sure their only child is a boy.

that would suck for the guys there. no more pussy to play with and instead they would have to play with eachother. XD he would tell his parents he was gay, they would ask why, he would say cause he has never seen a girl before! haha
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It's the sad truth tho.
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it was necessary
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Having only 1 child per family won't drastically reduce the female population. It depends if the families choose to abort female kids...if they even have to money to figure out the gender before birth. Throwing out female children would also probably cause a reduction since those children get adopted in other countries. If those two side effects caused by people's greed weren't a factor, after the old generation dies....I would guess 2060 or so, China will technically have a little over half it's population from 1990.

It's a good system, it's just enforcing it that's always the problem...like any other government system really.

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XuChu wrote:One child policy is a total fail,educated people in the city where the police can't be bribed can't have children. Poor people in the rural areas, they have like 6 kids on average because they can get away with it by bribing the local village watch.
**** the one child policy, also **** the scums who link human rights to one child policy.


+1, even if China has a one child policy, there are too many uneducated people out in the far west and south rural areas who have a ton of kids. China's population is still growing uncontrolably if you didn't know.

I don't think its too much of a human rights issue (well china is communist anyways, you can't expect much) because your not really killing a live child or throwing children away so its not an important human rights issue
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dom wrote:
Juey wrote:China is doomed unless they somehow get to import foreign females to compensate for the lack of chinese females. The whole world needs to help providing China with females, cuz if China collapses, there will be distrastrous consequences for the economy and the the existence of the entire world.


Or, the population would naturally decrease, job wages would be more competitive, and less of our work would be outsourced.


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I do think it is necessary because China is over populated and it is just to much work/stress/sadness to decide which child to ship off to another country.
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torinchibi wrote:Having only 1 child per family won't drastically reduce the female population. It depends if the families choose to abort female kids...if they even have to money to figure out the gender before birth. Throwing out female children would also probably cause a reduction since those children get adopted in other countries.


Sad truth is, in the rural areas villagers kill baby girls so they can have a boy as their only child.
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XuChu wrote:One child policy is a total fail,educated people in the city where the police can't be bribed can't have children. Poor people in the rural areas, they have like 6 kids on average because they can get away with it by bribing the local village watch.
**** the one child policy, also **** the scums who link human rights to one child policy.


then this is a problem with the authority not not the policy. The policy has its uses and imo would be a good one if enforced and regulated properly. Personally i'd impose a law that says all extra children born be automatically adopted and raised by the gov't to fill whatever jobs or positions need filling be it blue collar, white collar, or military....but im insane....
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Jstar1 wrote:
XuChu wrote:One child policy is a total fail,educated people in the city where the police can't be bribed can't have children. Poor people in the rural areas, they have like 6 kids on average because they can get away with it by bribing the local village watch.
**** the one child policy, also **** the scums who link human rights to one child policy.


+1, even if China has a one child policy, there are too many uneducated people out in the far west and south rural areas who have a ton of kids. China's population is still growing uncontrolably if you didn't know.

I don't think its too much of a human rights issue (well china is communist anyways, you can't expect much) because your not really killing a live child or throwing children away so its not an important human rights issue


I disagree. I think it IS a human rights issue. And I'm not talking about the fetuses. Women's reproductive rights are being violated. Forcing a woman to have an abortion is a violation of her reproductive rights. I believe in the right to choose, regardless of population. I would hate to see abortion as an option taken away here in the US and I would also hate to see it mandatory in any place, like china.
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JacksColon wrote:
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XuChu wrote:One child policy is a total fail,educated people in the city where the police can't be bribed can't have children. Poor people in the rural areas, they have like 6 kids on average because they can get away with it by bribing the local village watch.
**** the one child policy, also **** the scums who link human rights to one child policy.


+1, even if China has a one child policy, there are too many uneducated people out in the far west and south rural areas who have a ton of kids. China's population is still growing uncontrolably if you didn't know.

I don't think its too much of a human rights issue (well china is communist anyways, you can't expect much) because your not really killing a live child or throwing children away so its not an important human rights issue


I disagree. I think it IS a human rights issue. And I'm not talking about the fetuses. Women's reproductive rights are being violated. Forcing a woman to have an abortion is a violation of her reproductive rights. I believe in the right to choose, regardless of population. I would hate to see abortion as an option taken away here in the US and I would also hate to see it mandatory in any place, like china.


The rights of the people cease to have weight when they become a burden on civilization. Mass over population or major birth control. One could easily lead to overconsumption of resources or lack of available resources for more than a few million people which leads to a host of other problems and one is something people have been practicing for ages not having children when they don't have the resources to sustain them.
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XemnasXD wrote:
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XuChu wrote:One child policy is a total fail,educated people in the city where the police can't be bribed can't have children. Poor people in the rural areas, they have like 6 kids on average because they can get away with it by bribing the local village watch.
**** the one child policy, also **** the scums who link human rights to one child policy.


+1, even if China has a one child policy, there are too many uneducated people out in the far west and south rural areas who have a ton of kids. China's population is still growing uncontrolably if you didn't know.

I don't think its too much of a human rights issue (well china is communist anyways, you can't expect much) because your not really killing a live child or throwing children away so its not an important human rights issue


I disagree. I think it IS a human rights issue. And I'm not talking about the fetuses. Women's reproductive rights are being violated. Forcing a woman to have an abortion is a violation of her reproductive rights. I believe in the right to choose, regardless of population. I would hate to see abortion as an option taken away here in the US and I would also hate to see it mandatory in any place, like china.


The rights of the people cease to have weight when they become a burden on civilization. Mass over population or major birth control. One could easily lead to overconsumption of resources or lack of available resources for more than a few million people which leads to a host of other problems and one is something people have been practicing for ages not having children when they don't have the resources to sustain them.


I disagree fundamentally. A civilization is in trouble when its response to a problem like this is the forced eradication of people. There are other ways to solve this problem. The rights of humans should never cease just because the government cannot handle the problem in a humane way.

Also, this type of logic allows for dictators in regimes like this to define what a "burden" means. i.e. it can be argued that hitler viewed jews, gypsies and handicapped people as burdens on the german state and german people, thus, there eradication was necessary. Polpot in Cambodia is another example. My point is, genocide takes many forms and has many justifications, but we must be careful when we rationalize it.
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XemnasXD wrote:
JacksColon wrote:
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XuChu wrote:One child policy is a total fail,educated people in the city where the police can't be bribed can't have children. Poor people in the rural areas, they have like 6 kids on average because they can get away with it by bribing the local village watch.
**** the one child policy, also **** the scums who link human rights to one child policy.


+1, even if China has a one child policy, there are too many uneducated people out in the far west and south rural areas who have a ton of kids. China's population is still growing uncontrolably if you didn't know.

I don't think its too much of a human rights issue (well china is communist anyways, you can't expect much) because your not really killing a live child or throwing children away so its not an important human rights issue


I disagree. I think it IS a human rights issue. And I'm not talking about the fetuses. Women's reproductive rights are being violated. Forcing a woman to have an abortion is a violation of her reproductive rights. I believe in the right to choose, regardless of population. I would hate to see abortion as an option taken away here in the US and I would also hate to see it mandatory in any place, like china.


The rights of the people cease to have weight when they become a burden on civilization. Mass over population or major birth control. One could easily lead to overconsumption of resources or lack of available resources for more than a few million people which leads to a host of other problems and one is something people have been practicing for ages not having children when they don't have the resources to sustain them.


i disagree, though i can see where your going. It is however, never justified forcing people to do things against there will.
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Priam wrote:
XemnasXD wrote:
JacksColon wrote:
Jstar1 wrote:
XuChu wrote:One child policy is a total fail,educated people in the city where the police can't be bribed can't have children. Poor people in the rural areas, they have like 6 kids on average because they can get away with it by bribing the local village watch.
**** the one child policy, also **** the scums who link human rights to one child policy.


+1, even if China has a one child policy, there are too many uneducated people out in the far west and south rural areas who have a ton of kids. China's population is still growing uncontrolably if you didn't know.

I don't think its too much of a human rights issue (well china is communist anyways, you can't expect much) because your not really killing a live child or throwing children away so its not an important human rights issue


I disagree. I think it IS a human rights issue. And I'm not talking about the fetuses. Women's reproductive rights are being violated. Forcing a woman to have an abortion is a violation of her reproductive rights. I believe in the right to choose, regardless of population. I would hate to see abortion as an option taken away here in the US and I would also hate to see it mandatory in any place, like china.


The rights of the people cease to have weight when they become a burden on civilization. Mass over population or major birth control. One could easily lead to overconsumption of resources or lack of available resources for more than a few million people which leads to a host of other problems and one is something people have been practicing for ages not having children when they don't have the resources to sustain them.


i disagree, though i can see where your going. It is however, never justified forcing people to do things against there will.


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Human have rights to have children nobody can stop it. And have One Child Policy is not right to have , better they say ,think about they children you have allready, of course people become older then before so it be many ppl in a country but forbid somebody to have more children is not right ,They could say at least two they can have

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Well, the policy is very justified. And 2 children is twice as many as one, and they're allready very populated. Do the math, it's not good.
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Priam wrote:Well, the policy is very justified. And 2 children is twice as many as one, and they're allready very populated. Do the math, it's not good.


Nor is forcing women to abort their pregnancies.
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JacksColon wrote:
Priam wrote:Well, the policy is very justified. And 2 children is twice as many as one, and they're allready very populated. Do the math, it's not good.


Nor is forcing women to abort their pregnancies.


I allready took a stand on that, the same as you btw. And nowhere was my reply implying that forcing anyone is good, it was merely pointing out that the policy in theory is a good thing.
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