Why Silkroad is full of botters

menos · Post by **menos** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 4:22 am

Ok, i have had enough.
The real reason silkroad is full of botters is because Joymax uses gamegaurd as the 'hacking' protection.
This has to be the worst protection ever.
I remember when i used to play maplestory which used gamegaurd to prevent hacking. I was 15 at the time, and i used to bot maplestory, omg, im a haxxor i bet your all thinking. well i wasnt just a haxxor that leeched CEs from the creaters of the programs. infact, i scripted and made my own bypass, my own bot and my own UCE. i must admit that doing so for silkroad would be harder due to it being 3 dimensional, but it would still be easy to create a bypass, infact i could use my 1 year old bypass as gamegaurd patches only stop widely used bypasses (such as something you would find in a boting tutorial) so all i would have to do is create a bot, write some script and i would have a working bot which would never be patched or blocked.
i dont care if i get banned for admiting to botting in another game, this thread was to show you that the real reason joymax cant do anything to improve the gaming experience is because they are stuck with gamegaurd, and most likely in a contract with them for 3-5 years, so we may not see an improvement in the banning and blocking of bots until joymax decides to choose a new protection service.
so it is not intererly joymaxs fault, silkroad would be a much better game if it had a better protection service that actually worked.
i would also like to state that i have not used a thirdparty program while using silkroad and i never will.
Thanks

Edit: I feel a ban coming, to be honest, i dont care, i posted this thread to express my views and opinions and i feel i have done nothing wrong.

sama98b · Post by **sama98b** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 4:29 am

LOL
Why would they ban you.

And by the way let you know gameguard is fully disabled in sro now, and it
is like that for a long time.

Joymax already changed rules about bots, only this forum keeps the rules same.

Times change ....

bLuE_fLaMe · Post by **bLuE_fLaMe** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 4:30 am

From what i've heard JoyMax doesn't even use that program, it's just there for looks it really doesn't do anything. Someone else might say it is like those flashing lights that people put in there cars to make robbers think there is some kind of protection so that gameguard logo is nothing more than those flashing lights are...

OwnedByFudge · Post by **OwnedByFudge** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 4:31 am

Joymax doesnt ban botters because they make money off of em....

vindicated01 · Post by **vindicated01** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 4:33 am

enough bot thread and if you want to complain go to here

http://www.silkroadonline.net

CLOSE

bLuE_fLaMe · Post by **bLuE_fLaMe** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 4:36 am

this video can discribe what Silkroad is doing LoL

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=jX-8oGrDFTM

menos · Post by **menos** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 4:40 am

Joymax doesnt ban botters because they make money off of em....

that is so wrong, i hear this so much.
lets go through some numbers.
average botter purchase a gt or pt and maybe a monkey - so $25 a month. now botters are online 24/7.
now think about a average player that buys silk. i think that 1/2 of players that stay till the cap buy silk, but not only do they buy pt and a monkey, they buy astrals and sp relocations and suits. so that may average $35 a month, but the difference is that the average player is on 4 hours a day average. so that $105 a month for the average player compared to $25 a month for the botter as every slot the botter takes up, could be filled in theory by 6 players (4 hours each 24 hours in a day, 6 timeslots, half of 6 is 3 (average amount of players that buy silk) so 3 times 35 is 105) and lets say there are 1000 botters on a server, thats $105 000 revenue from legit players, compared to the $25000 revenue from botters, so tell me, which would you prefer.

OwnedByFudge · Post by **OwnedByFudge** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 4:41 am

Ur telling me botters dont pimp there gear?

bLuE_fLaMe · Post by **bLuE_fLaMe** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 4:44 am

Whoa that some crazy math and your absolutly right but tbh most people would do the same thing if they were in that position they make tons of money, "ALSO" from what i heard which this is a reliable source is that JM BUYS the updates and events from the actual Korean owners, that is where some might have heard that there was to be -->3<-- summer events but instead we got jiped off with only one...its all an issue of money..you stop the botters, you stop the people from coming, the game dies and Isro LOSES BIG TIME. Botters only buy silk because they think there doing good and they are gettin' up there in their servers and think they can be better by buying silk, this is mostlikly the point of view from JM and this is thus your reason with bots don't get banned
(srry if im leading off topic and talking about bots too much! My bad?)

raged! · Post by **raged!** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 4:46 am

gameguard in silkroad is diabled. it is just a splash screen now, the real gg hasnt updated in months.

joymax does not try to stop botting
joymax wants people to bot

who in their right minds would grind 20hrs a day for 10% of EXP?

sama98b · Post by **sama98b** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 4:47 am

menos wrote:
Joymax doesnt ban botters because they make money off of em....

that is so wrong, i hear this so much.
lets go through some numbers.
average botter purchase a gt or pt and maybe a monkey - so $25 a month. now botters are online 24/7.
now think about a average player that buys silk. i think that 1/2 of players that stay till the cap buy silk, but not only do they buy pt and a monkey, they buy astrals and sp relocations and suits. so that may average $35 a month, but the difference is that the average player is on 4 hours a day average. so that $105 a month for the average player compared to $25 a month for the botter as every slot the botter takes up, could be filled in theory by 6 players (4 hours each 24 hours in a day, 6 timeslots, half of 6 is 3 (average amount of players that buy silk) so 3 times 35 is 105) and lets say there are 1000 botters on a server, thats $105 000 revenue from legit players, compared to the $25000 revenue from botters, so tell me, which would you prefer.

LOL
Go back to school

Your logic fails at every point there.

ps:

Legit 1 =
Can't afford to pay anything.
So joymax makes servers full so he can't even login and leaves.
Jm could raise server cap to 10k like other mmo game.

Legit 2 =
Gets some silk every month.
Jm tolerates them but they want them to pay minimum for pt every month
to login, if not they can't login.

Non legit 1 =
El cheapo, gets cracked bot and no dc client.
Will get keyloged and lose his account sooner or l8r.
They were in the ban list most time, client gets updated often
so these gets locked out most time, and next client that cracked will
most likely gets keyloged.

Non legit 2 =
Buys silk every month to login and to pimp gear.
Buys the bot, and those companies pay % to jm in some ways.
Buys gold to afford max gears, and those companies pay jm % too.

So in the end where is JM gets the most money ? ....

menos · Post by **menos** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 4:48 am

sama98b wrote:
menos wrote:
Joymax doesnt ban botters because they make money off of em....

that is so wrong, i hear this so much.
lets go through some numbers.
average botter purchase a gt or pt and maybe a monkey - so $25 a month. now botters are online 24/7.
now think about a average player that buys silk. i think that 1/2 of players that stay till the cap buy silk, but not only do they buy pt and a monkey, they buy astrals and sp relocations and suits. so that may average $35 a month, but the difference is that the average player is on 4 hours a day average. so that $105 a month for the average player compared to $25 a month for the botter as every slot the botter takes up, could be filled in theory by 6 players (4 hours each 24 hours in a day, 6 timeslots, half of 6 is 3 (average amount of players that buy silk) so 3 times 35 is 105) and lets say there are 1000 botters on a server, thats $105 000 revenue from legit players, compared to the $25000 revenue from botters, so tell me, which would you prefer.

LOL
Go back to school
Your logic fails at every point there.

how does it fail, prove to me that botters ake more revenue than legits

ineedhelp · Post by **ineedhelp** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 4:52 am

um i still dont get it is this even a rant or a remark or plain dull

all i understood is u can make a bot that will never get banned or patched
and gameguard doesnt work ( which we all know we dont need to be
reminded again) and u wil never use a bot for silkroad and never done
but u have for mable story and u can make one for silkroad

funny thing is u need to test your bot to see if it works
and thats using it so FAIL and why make a bot if u not gonna use it
DOUBLE FAIL

tedtwilliger · Post by **tedtwilliger** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 4:54 am

OwnedByFudge wrote:Joymax doesnt ban botters because they make money off of em....

Most bots are goldbots. All goldbots dont buy silk.

Enough said.

sama98b · Post by **sama98b** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 4:56 am

tedtwilliger wrote:
OwnedByFudge wrote:Joymax doesnt ban botters because they make money off of em....

Most bots are goldbots. All goldbots dont buy silk.

Enough said.

Goldbots run by company who sell gold and makes money on it.
And they pay off JM to let them operate.
If they wouldn't JM can ip range ban that isp they use in china, and
not lose even 1 paying customer on it.

menos · Post by **menos** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 4:57 am

ineedhelp wrote:um i still dont get it is this even a rant or a remark or plain dull

all i understood is u can make a bot that will never get banned or patched
and gameguard doesnt work ( which we all know we dont need to be
reminded again) and u wil never use a bot for silkroad and never done
but u have for mable story and u can make one for silkroad

funny thing is u need to test your bot to see if it works
and thats using it so FAIL and why make a bot if u not gonna use it
DOUBLE FAIL

i just said that it would be easy to make a bot and that this doesnt deter botters from

sama98b · Post by **sama98b** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 4:59 am

95% of the game are bots have to face it.
Jm not risking of losing paying customers.
No bot ban in the last 6 month, and even before then.

Jm wants to lose the non paying freeloades by locking the cap down
and not leting them login.

....

ps.: Forgot to say, JM even changed the game rules .....

bLuE_fLaMe · Post by **bLuE_fLaMe** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 4:59 am

tedtwilliger wrote:
OwnedByFudge wrote:Joymax doesnt ban botters because they make money off of em....

Most bots are goldbots. All goldbots dont buy silk.

Enough said.

But what if the Goldbot owners pay JM a profit of their own profit?
it would all make sence

tedtwilliger · Post by **tedtwilliger** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 5:01 am

sama98b wrote:
tedtwilliger wrote:
OwnedByFudge wrote:Joymax doesnt ban botters because they make money off of em....

Most bots are goldbots. All goldbots dont buy silk.

Enough said.

Goldbots run by company who sell gold and makes money on it.
And they pay off JM to let them operate.
If they wouldn't JM can ip range ban that isp they use in china, and
not lose even 1 paying customer on it.

all you have is a bunch of stupid accusations, you have no proof. No matter how much you say that, unless you can prove it your just spewing crap. Go read a few posts by pred in another thread and he states something a lot more logical than what you just said. I would post it here but im lazy.

This thread if made of fail and gay and does not deserve anymore posts by me.

Da_Realest · Post by **Da_Realest** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 5:01 am

raged! wrote:gameguard in silkroad is diabled. it is just a splash screen now, the real gg hasnt updated in months.

joymax does not try to stop botting
joymax wants people to bot

who in their right minds would grind 20hrs a day for 10% of EXP?

If you're on a 3 gap or lower and it takes you 20 hours to get 10%, you're obviously doing something wrong.

sama98b · Post by **sama98b** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 5:05 am

tedtwilliger wrote:
sama98b wrote:
tedtwilliger wrote:
OwnedByFudge wrote:Joymax doesnt ban botters because they make money off of em....

Most bots are goldbots. All goldbots dont buy silk.

Enough said.

Goldbots run by company who sell gold and makes money on it.
And they pay off JM to let them operate.
If they wouldn't JM can ip range ban that isp they use in china, and
not lose even 1 paying customer on it.

all you have is a bunch of stupid accusations, you have no proof. No matter how much you say that, unless you can prove it your just spewing crap. Go read a few posts by pred in another thread and he states something a lot more logical than what you just said. I would post it here but im lazy.

This thread if made of fail and gay and does not deserve anymore posts by me.

Same companies sell silk gold botcards, posted many places ....
JM changing game rules ....
No bot banned since when ?...
Bot found by GM and not banned (old topic) ....
Gold companies run free no restriction ....
Servers keept full so have to buy silk just to get in ...

hmm I guess could find more, but sleepy

DarkJackal · Post by **DarkJackal** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 5:13 am

raged! wrote:gameguard in silkroad is diabled. it is just a splash screen now, the real gg hasnt updated in months.

joymax does not try to stop botting
joymax wants people to bot

who in their right minds would grind 20hrs a day for 10% of EXP?

At what lvl are you where you get 10% in 20 hours?

I grind 1 hour and get 5% at 79, with ticket though, but still thats only 2 hours for 5% without one, 4 hours for 10%.

tyfly · Post by **tyfly** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 5:13 am

Well who knows. maybe there hasn't been a bot because they were busy updating fortress, i notice that JoyMax either does a huge bot ban (which takes time) or does an update, last time it was bot ban this time it was an update, so Maybe will see and bot ban coming in the near future.

bLuE_fLaMe · Post by **bLuE_fLaMe** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 5:20 am

DarkJackal wrote:
raged! wrote:gameguard in silkroad is diabled. it is just a splash screen now, the real gg hasnt updated in months.

joymax does not try to stop botting
joymax wants people to bot

who in their right minds would grind 20hrs a day for 10% of EXP?

At what lvl are you where you get 10% in 20 hours?

I grind 1 hour and get 5% at 79, with ticket though, but still thats only 2 hours for 5% without one, 4 hours for 10%.

well maybe you have a 0 gap cause at lvl 70 8gap i get like 1-2% a in a grind session

DarkJackal · Post by **DarkJackal** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 5:24 am

If you have a big gap you shouldn't complain about lvling, the whole point of that is you lvl slower and get more sp >_>.

OwnedByFudge · Post by **OwnedByFudge** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 5:24 am

tyfly wrote:Well who knows. maybe there hasn't been a bot because they were busy updating fortress, i notice that JoyMax either does a huge bot ban (which takes time) or does an update, last time it was bot ban this time it was an update, so Maybe will see and bot ban coming in the near future.

They just come back though.. within 2-3weeks.

WhereIsOsama · Post by **WhereIsOsama** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 5:30 am

tyfly wrote:Well who knows. maybe there hasn't been a bot because they were busy updating fortress, i notice that JoyMax either does a huge bot ban (which takes time) or does an update, last time it was bot ban this time it was an update, so Maybe will see and bot ban coming in the near future.

+ 1

Also, what would be the point of Joymax making huge updates to iSRO to attract people to spend money just to give gold bots profit when new or old customers can not even log in.

Premium ticket you say? Realistically how many people are going to waste money on premium or other item mall products just to log in?

If less people play or can not find a reason to INVEST money on a useless game, gold profits will go down and would be a horrible short term goal for Joymax to make some quick cash.

Popularity + long time customers = more revenue for joymax than to corrupt their own game for the short term. Any good business knows that the better the quality the better the profit.

Unless Joymax is understaffed or just plain stupid, I doubt they would corrupt their own game.

Fuhito · Post by **Fuhito** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 5:38 am

sama98b wrote:95% of the game are bots have to face it.
Jm not risking of losing paying customers.
No bot ban in the last 6 month, and even before then.

Jm wants to lose the non paying freeloades by locking the cap down
and not leting them login.

....

ps.: Forgot to say, JM even changed the game rules .....

Please stop making up numbers and saying Joymax gets payed off to keep bots to make your point look valid.

The only two reasons you can safely assume why Joymax doesn't ban bots is without making shit up:

1. Not enough man power. Even in kSRO bots are found and banned by hand.
2. Why would they? No legits quit or even make an effort to protest so why bother?

But you can go on making crazy conspiracy theories and think that if companies like Blizzard can't stop Gold companies that Joymax must have so much power they need to be paid off.

... oh wait, thats right, people just keep making shit up.

ineedhelp · Post by **ineedhelp** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 5:39 am

menos wrote:
ineedhelp wrote:um i still dont get it is this even a rant or a remark or plain dull

all i understood is u can make a bot that will never get banned or patched
and gameguard doesnt work ( which we all know we dont need to be
reminded again) and u wil never use a bot for silkroad and never done
but u have for mable story and u can make one for silkroad

funny thing is u need to test your bot to see if it works
and thats using it so FAIL and why make a bot if u not gonna use it
DOUBLE FAIL

i just said that it would be easy to make a bot and that this doesnt deter botters from

why did u just repeat yourself i know wat u said lolz
:roll:

Casey613 · Post by **Casey613** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 5:40 am

Most goldbots have +3 weapons and SoS weapons they loot (till deg 5).