Hybrid 85% or 90%

Faded · Post by **Faded** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 11:57 pm

Guys i need advice

Im making a hybrid Spear Cold/Lightning Nuker

I need some info on how i should make my magical balance.
Can someone please help

raphaell666 · Post by **raphaell666** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 12:10 am

I presume its without ekips. With 90% you will be almost like an full int, it will not even be 7:1, it will be an higher ratio than that, then I would suggest you to do 7:1, you will have more hp. I dont know if 85% naked is an good idea for hybrid int spear, so I recommend you to do 87% naked (7:1), it will be better IMO.

Faded · Post by **Faded** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 12:14 am

im not doing 1:7 or 7:1 or watever im just like making mag balance at like 90% or 87% and add str at watever level

raphaell666 · Post by **raphaell666** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 12:25 am

Lets use some logic:
As the cap for now is 80, we are planning our builds to it;
So, using 7:1:
7 + 1 = 8;
8 = 10 x 80;
80 - (7x10) = 70 lvls
So, add 70 lvls of int, and 10 lvls of str;
Each level you will get 3 stats;
10x3= 30 points into str;
70x3= 210 points into int(approx.).

Dunno if you understood, but the main you got right?
Also, with 30 str and the rest in int (207 if im not mistaken), at lvl 80 your magical balance will be 87%.

EDIT: Oh, dont know if this looked like offensive or smtg, but no offenses man, really, it was not my purpose.

Faded · Post by **Faded** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 12:31 am

nah its cool.. i might just do pure int spear

but i aint sure yet
also got any advice on cold/light or fire/ice

raphaell666 · Post by **raphaell666** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 12:35 am

What do you mean? Are you going to use only those 2 masteries? I need to know your build to be able to give advices.. If its hybrid then do light/ice, it will be better, unless you have a lot of str and want to use cold50/ fire90/light70, and your weapon at 90.

Faded · Post by **Faded** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 12:39 am

Wait no ima be Spear/Light/COLD OR FIRE

is there an easier way to do 87% cuz like waiting till 80 thatll take me months or even years to get

raphaell666 · Post by **raphaell666** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 12:58 am

Just keep your naked mag balance at 87%. You will not need to be 80 to do it. You can start doing it even from lvl 2. You just have to add int or str until your NAKED magical balance gets to 87%. If your mag balance is above it, then dont add more int next lvl and only add str, keep that untill your mag balance drop to 87% or below it, if it gets below then lvl int till you achieve it again. You just have to do this everytime you lvl up, its not hard. If you have more questions, explain them, so I can further help you about this matter.
About Spear/Light/COLD OR FIRE, I would say cold for 87% mag balance. If you want an lower mag balance, like 70-80% then you can get only 50 cold, and get 70 light and 90 fire, and your weapon skills will hit hard. I think theres no other good way to get high fire. Dont forget that these are my opinions, and I might be mistaken.

Faded · Post by **Faded** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 1:07 am

hmm ill do ice for grinding yep thanks for advice u helped me alot so ill do 87% thanks =]

raphaell666 · Post by **raphaell666** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 1:20 am

No problem at all man. I like to help people when I can, and the further I can. If you have more questions, just ask them.

Faded · Post by **Faded** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 1:25 am

Alright last question

ummm why not 90% lol!

raphaell666 · Post by **raphaell666** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 1:43 am

Let me compare both and you will be able to choose by yourself:

NAKED

90% mag balance stats:
5688 hp/15104 mp

87% mag balance stats:
6165 hp/14626 mp

EQUIPPED WITH FULL BLUE EQUIPS

90% mag balance(now 106%):
8316 hp/17733 mp

87% mag balance(now 103%):
8794 hp/17255 mp

Well, as you can see both are very similar. You can choose, maybe in some cases you will be able to survive with less than 500 hp left, so this extra will be a welcome help. You almost will not lose mag atk at all with only 3% less mag balance. If you want to do more damage then go for 90%, if you think every extra hp helps, then go for 87%. Its up to you, take what you like the most.

Faded · Post by **Faded** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 1:58 am

okay illll do 87 i guesss...

raphaell666 · Post by **raphaell666** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 2:05 am

Faded wrote:okay illll do 87 i guesss...

xD I am not obliging you to do anything man. If you like 90% then just do it. As you can see, both are pretty good. You will almost not be losing anything from choosing either 87 or 90%....
But, you dont want to do 87% because you dont know how to achieve it, or you just like 90%?

Deathsythe · Post by **Deathsythe** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 2:05 am

90% is for s/s, 85% is for spear.

raphaell666 · Post by **raphaell666** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 2:12 am

Deathsythe wrote:90% is for s/s, 85% is for spear.

IMO, it is not exact like that. Theres an video that shows an really good 7:1 hybrid int using spear, and he was really strong. Maybe that 3% from 87 to 90 really make diference, but im not so sure. I think you can easily use 90% mag balance with spear and you will have almost no problems, although I must say that with 90% and s/s you will have a really good defense.

Faded · Post by **Faded** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 2:16 am

hmm lol 85% for spear?

raphaell666 · Post by **raphaell666** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 2:36 am

Faded wrote:hmm lol 85% for spear?

Are you just a lil bit indecisive or its just my impression?
One last time: There is NO better hybrid int AT ALL, people will just give you the balances that they seen, or that they like or things like that, and you will have to CHOOSE which one you like more. There are a lot of hybrid ints that use different weapons. Every one of them is good (afaik). Forgive me if im wrong.

Go to youtube and take a look on hybrids there, it might help you. Also, take a look at this video and you will see what im talking about: Search for "Silkroad: The Progressive INT" on youtube. It is an cool video showing an hybrid int spear with 87% mag balance.

VeniVidiVici · Post by **VeniVidiVici** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 11:28 am

Faded wrote:Wait no ima be Spear/Light/COLD OR FIRE

is there an easier way to do 87% cuz like waiting till 80 thatll take me months or even years to get

i'm also making a 7:1 hybrid int (87% mag bal.) and i put str in these lvls:
lvl 8,16,24,32,40,48,56,64,72 and int 80 hope this helps

MogHunter · Post by **MogHunter** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 11:28 am

Umm I have a question... I just made a new char that I want to make into a nuker s/s or spear im not sure of how i should do this though because i am now at lvl 13 and decided to go full str until that lvl so thats 36str. I want to go full int now until lvl80 so I will have 86% mag naked when I finish. Was this a bad idea putting the str in straight away and should I just scrap that idea and make a str char or can I still make this work? Any help would be appreciated, thanks

VeniVidiVici · Post by **VeniVidiVici** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 11:33 am

MogHunter wrote:Umm I have a question... I just made a new char that I want to make into a nuker s/s or spear im not sure of how i should do this though because i am now at lvl 13 and decided to go full str until that lvl so thats 36str. I want to go full int now until lvl80 so I will have 86% mag naked when I finish. Was this a bad idea putting the str in straight away and should I just scrap that idea and make a str char or can I still make this work? Any help would be appreciated, thanks

no it isn't but at lvl 25 you will be a 1:1 hybrid and at lvl 80 a little bit less than 7:1 but 1 lvl more in str doesnt matter. you can see it like this when the 90 cap comes you have already all your str added so you can go all int now. and take spear it rocks

MogHunter · Post by **MogHunter** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 11:38 am

Hehe thanks for the quick reply and im just wondering is s/s out of the question because ill only be 86% at 80 because 90% naked balance seems to be the best for s/s hybrids. What do you think?

VeniVidiVici · Post by **VeniVidiVici** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 11:39 am

MogHunter wrote:Hehe thanks for the quick reply and im just wondering is s/s out of the question because ill only be 86% at 80 because 90% naked balance seems to be the best for s/s hybrids. What do you think?

that's one of the points why i took 7:1 it's easy to switch to s/s, 7:1 can also be used for a s/s with garment.

Swindler · Post by **Swindler** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 12:22 pm

be 1:7 hybrid.. add 30 points to str and youre done

Disconn3cted · Post by **Disconn3cted** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 2:09 pm

some thing most people dont point out is that with more str your hp pots will heal more sure it is only 500 more hp but you will taking more than 500 more dmg for a few reasons people never talk about

MogHunter · Post by **MogHunter** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 3:08 pm

I think im gonna go for the spear nuker then, what skills and masteries should i get for that? I went with the fire imbue but if lightning is better in the long run i can delvl that if necessary.

Feudal_lord · Post by **Feudal_lord** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 4:11 pm

u have to make a good choice cuz if u add more str ur char ll have lower damage dun forget first u are A NUKER.If u add str use spear bye the way ur mage attack wont be lower and and heuksal pasif give u extra hp.what u gonna do when u can olny have 2 masteries thnk about it and make ur char carefully

VeniVidiVici · Post by **VeniVidiVici** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 4:54 pm

MogHunter wrote:I think im gonna go for the spear nuker then, what skills and masteries should i get for that? I went with the fire imbue but if lightning is better in the long run i can delvl that if necessary.

I would say go heuksal 80, ice 80, light 80 and fire to 60 but when the 90 cap comes get fire to 30. and wear garments

MogHunter · Post by **MogHunter** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 5:12 pm

Hmm is ice really that necessary? I havent played a chinese char in more than half a year so is this to get snow shield, frost guard and the passive?

bambskiii · Post by **bambskiii** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 5:15 pm

im 89% without any gear on and its perfect, enough hp to tank any sun user and enough mag balance to kill people with either one shot nukes or nuke+mars combo