Everything about Rogue/Warlock

WakingLife · Post by **WakingLife** » Wed Jan 02, 2008 6:18 pm

So i heard that people say its a good build but i didn't see any videos and i don't know any people in my server with this build. So please if you have any experience fighting with or against it write it here. Please tell pros and cons of this build. I want to know on what builds i would fight best and which ones would be hard for me to kill. And just to make everyone sure build is pure STR not hybrid or int.

P.S. for some reason not much people respond to my topics which aren't stupid or something like that. So at least now help me with this choice.

BloodOwnzzz · Post by **BloodOwnzzz** » Wed Jan 02, 2008 6:30 pm

This is how a Rogue/Warlock goes. After you blow your Stealth using Warlock Skills the random lvl 20 blader will knock you down and then you will die.

If you don't finish someone off without Warlock Skills then they are probably to high for you to kill anyway.

WakingLife · Post by **WakingLife** » Wed Jan 02, 2008 6:49 pm

I wanted something other than this stupid post. Its useless. (no offense)

raphaell666 · Post by **raphaell666** » Wed Jan 02, 2008 7:19 pm

Well, I do not think that an rogue/warlock would be really usefull. BloodOwnzzz is right. Using warlock skills will blow up your stealth. Warlock almost will not help you, maybe only in 1vs1 pvp when you are not stealthed. You do not need warlock, you are already one of the best, if not the best for 1 target, damage dealer in the game. My advice: do NOT take warlock as sub. You do not need it. Take cleric or bard, but then it is another history, another topic.

WakingLife · Post by **WakingLife** » Wed Jan 02, 2008 7:34 pm

I have other rogue/cleric char... hate it. Well probably cause its 44 lvl and stay in hotan which lags for me much. I like other towns more lol. So im just creating new and new characters and poverleveling them to 24 lvl ~~
just want to find the best... now im thinking about chinese bow xD

xZhang_Liaox · Post by **xZhang_Liaox** » Wed Jan 02, 2008 10:08 pm

raphaell666 wrote:Well, I do not think that an rogue/warlock would be really usefull. BloodOwnzzz is right. Using warlock skills will blow up your stealth. Warlock almost will not help you, maybe only in 1vs1 pvp when you are not stealthed. You do not need warlock, you are already one of the best, if not the best for 1 target, damage dealer in the game. My advice: do NOT take warlock as sub. You do not need it. Take cleric or bard, but then it is another history, another topic.

lol...warlock is a good masterie unless you fight some1 with cleric as submasterie or got a cleric friend to buff him with holy word...but it's a nice idea. and guys....a rogue don't need stealth to kill you lol...there aren't only noob rogues that stealth in cape fight and attack while you pvp another one...

raphaell666 · Post by **raphaell666** » Wed Jan 02, 2008 11:36 pm

xZhang_Liaox wrote:lol...warlock is a good masterie unless you fight some1 with cleric as submasterie or got a cleric friend to buff him with holy word...but it's a nice idea. and guys....a rogue don't need stealth to kill you lol...there aren't only noob rogues that stealth in cape fight and attack while you pvp another one...

My point is: You do NOT need extra damage. You will probably be killed by everyone that has a subclass cleric or who was buffed by Holy Word by someone else, or an chinese who has fire shield maxed. Stealth is an part of an strategy that rogues can use, they kill without being noted. Unfortunately some people use it in a noobish way, but its not everyone who do it. With bard or cleric as a subclass you will be IMO much more useful than a warlock. Instead of doing rogue/warlock, then do wizard/warlock, as you will be able to use the offensive skills of warlock to do DOT damage. Rogue/Warlock will be worse than an Wizard/Warlock.

kaboom786 · Post by **kaboom786** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 4:56 am

i had a rogue/warlock upto lvl 74 masteries in both classes. Had vampire touch , reflect, shadow armor , all dots, all debuffs except magical ones, trap, slumber and daze.
Well what i used to do was first of all was put on reflect throw vampire touch on anyone i was doing a duel with in cape , i dunno about others but from what i really noticed and worked was that throwing vampire touch on someone first somehow increased my chances of landing daze (stun) almost 95% of the time and to replenish some extra HP if you get hit first which you usually do when holding warlock rod and shield. Then threw my debuffs , razes etc as fast as i could within the 5 sec stun. Mind you i didn't use slumber first coz they just wake out of it if u debuff after slumber. After debuffs are up on the opponent i would throw a slumber in the end , switch to daggers, pop DD and crossed my fingers for a crit . Even at 74 i've hit full Sosun garment full str chinese characters with debuffs and crit for about 27k crit. It's good enough damage but from my experience it's only fun for cape fights. I tried to go out thiefing with it but i would hardly get a shot in before someone just killed me. it's too hard when all you're trying to do is get lucky on landing stuns and debuffs and trying get that trader or hunter to sleep when they can easily snap out of slumber by any aggro mob around or any aoe other chinese thief might throw around. Also sucks more if they have someone with holy word or spell in their group. It can be fun though just for cape fights one on one if you have a good shield to go along with it like a br15 or more but that's just about it... you can't take advantage of stealth attacks if youre debuffing and trying to kill them . You might be doing a tad bit more dmg with debuffs but i think throwing a prick out of stealth with DD does close to same dmg. All the debuffing and slumbering dazing etc worked well on chinese characters but eventually most of them learnt to use expensive pills now and well i stood no chance against any other rogue or warrior with cerlic sub, i could only try to stun them and land all dots on them but that hardly flinched them. Only thing i liked was the trap damage from warlock , at 74 maxed with it's upgrade also it would do about 4700 dmg ... but again there's a 20 second random timeframe . With debuffs at 74 maxed ( i never went over 74 mastery on warlock ) you would get in about 2-3k more dmg. But anyway i just took my SP out of it 3 days ago, now my mastery is down to 13 warlock and i guess i'll do it the preferred way, cleric. Dueling against chinese is fun with rogue/warlock if there are no interruptions like noobies hitting you too while you're trying to do a duel but .. overall IMO not preferred .

WakingLife · Post by **WakingLife** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 9:18 am

So i guess i wont pick that build... Still i want an unique build and i dont know what to pick ^^.

kaboom786 · Post by **kaboom786** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 5:15 pm

what's left is bard and cleric if you're picking rogue as your main , wizard useless... warrior meh! ..... but haven't seen a lot of warlock/cleric though if you're looking for something really different... at least on my server i haven't seen one that's high lvl yet, would be the ultimate defense build ^_^ with reflect and shadow armor, would also compensate your lack of attacks on cleric

raphaell666 · Post by **raphaell666** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 5:30 pm

Take a look at my subclasses guide, it might help you. Here it is: [GUIDE] European SubClasses. Maybe you can use it to discover new combinations, new ways of playing, or whatever.

BloodOwnzzz · Post by **BloodOwnzzz** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 7:22 pm

WakingLife wrote:So i guess i wont pick that build... Still i want an unique build and i dont know what to pick ^^.

Creating a unique build for the sake of being unique isn't a good idea...