Is SP farming really worth - My Explanation

[menos]

Hello,
I have written this so that people starting a new character can get an idea about if farming that 200k SP will be worth the time.
So, say your starting a new character and you have used a SP calculater and figured out he needs 350k SP for all his masterys.
Now consider that leveling with no gap will get you approximatly 150k SP, so you would have to farm 200k.
Now, when farming SP, you gain approximatly 500-600 SP an hour if you have a GT (Gold Ticket) and dont pick up items (Thats what monkeys are for). Now the math, 200000/500=400 hours of playing time, and if i play 3 hours a day, that is 133 days of farming.
Now, is it really worth it when you can play with a gap of 4, which will get you all the SP you need, but the downside is you will level at half the speed of someone with no gap.
But consider this, if to people both start playing at the sametime with the same builds, and one decides to farm, and the other play at a 4 gap, in the time that the farming player spends farming, the other player will be 30-40 levels above him.
So, my last word is that if you feel that farming is a daunting task, or you are new to silkroad, then give farming a miss, and just grindaway, not only will you have a better time, you will also be able to experience more of the Silkroad world.
Thanks, please post your thoughts and opinions.

[nohunta]

I agree thats what im doing atm except with 3 gap

[DrTommy]

that long? 0.o

I'm new to sro and Im going to try it out, and if I dont like farming, I'll just raise my masteries and continue on.
doesnt hurt to try.
if it really takes that long, I may cut some skills off my list lol =)

[raphaell666]

Hello. You said that with a gap of 4 you can get 350k of sp. You are wrong, you can get only around 315k. To 90 cap, I done some tests, and an full str glavier to be full farmed will need approx. 800k of sp. Leveling with 4 gap from 10 to 90 will only get you 539k. You would need to lvl with 5-6gap, because 6 gap gives you over 900k of sp, so you would not need that much. Leveling with a 6 gap would be really painfull.. Well, my point is that there is no way to completely avoid sp farming. Leveling with a 4 gap would help you a lot, but would not be enough to be full farmed. For new players, and for people who really dont like to farm, but want to be strong, 4 gap would be probably the best because they will be able to have most of the skills for their lvl. The 9 gap long farming will be greatly reduced if you lvl with 4 gap. This is a really usefull idea, I agree that when the 9 gap farming guy finishes farming, the 4 gap one would be 30 or + levels higher, but the 9 gap one would lvl with 0 gap after farming really fast. I wonder if they would match after some time..

[menos]

Hello. You said that with a gap of 4 you can get 350k of sp. You are wrong, you can get only around 315k. To 90 cap, I done some tests, and an full str glavier to be full farmed will need approx. 800k of sp. Leveling with 4 gap from 10 to 90 will only get you 539k. You would need to lvl with 5-6gap, because 6 gap gives you over 900k of sp, so you would not need that much. Leveling with a 6 gap would be really painfull.. Well, my point is that there is no way to completely avoid sp farming. Leveling with a 4 gap would help you a lot, but would not be enough to be full farmed. For new players, and for people who really dont like to farm, but want to be strong, 4 gap would be probably the best because they will be able to have most of the skills for their lvl. The 9 gap long farming will be greatly reduced if you lvl with 4 gap. This is a really usefull idea, I agree that when the 9 gap farming guy finishes farming, the 4 gap one would be 30 or + levels higher, but the 9 gap one would lvl with 0 gap after farming really fast. I wonder if they would match after some time..

yes, i agree with you that a FULLY farmed char needs to be farmed at the den or at ongs because they need the SP, where as my build, and lots of other builds only take essential skills,
my current build is pure str ice/fire/light bow, and for the skills that i want, i only need 335k SP, so with quests i should be able to reach it.
and when someone reaches the cap with a build like mine, there is always the option to farm then and level up your skills so u can be a better pvper.
my idea is aimed at the people who dont want a major grind and want to experience more of SR than lvl 2X

[DrTommy]

would doing a tiny bit of farming help or is it an all or nothing thing. Say I farmed 30k. How much would that really help? Also, are farmed charecters THAT much better when at the same lvl?

I'm making a STR archer and want him to be good but also dont want to so farm forever

[Swindler]

you must farm otherwise u be to weak.. just face it

[raphaell666]

you must farm otherwise u be to weak.. just face it

You are a little wrong. An full farmed character will be stronger than an character that lvled with 0-2 gap, but an character that lvled with lets say, 4 gap, or that has gapped higher than 6-7, wont be much weaker than an full farmed one. You do not need to be full farmed to be strong, but being full farmed helps a damn lot.

would doing a tiny bit of farming help or is it an all or nothing thing. Say I farmed 30k. How much would that really help? Also, are farmed charecters THAT much better when at the same lvl?

I'm making a STR archer and want him to be good but also dont want to so farm forever

Yes, it would help, especially if you do that periodically. No they are not, but a character who has never gapped will be REALLY weaker than an full farmed one.

[SuperTanker]

i do agree farming is boring. i made a character in Mars and tried to sp farm with it.i got it to lvl 12, then got really bored cause of the 5 lvl gap. it took me a lot of time to get to 14-15, and when i hit 16, i quit it cause in 1 day (for me 2 hrs) i made less than 200 sp. my goal was over 400k sp.
but as boring at it maybe, farming is a must. whether u farm once u are capped, or when u are just starting, or in the middle, u are gonna lvl at the same speed. but, if u lvl with a 4 gap, which i think is tooo big (let alone a 6 gap ) u are gonna lvl slower. while the ppl who started the game off with farming, after they are done with it they are gonna 0 gap to 80. the ppl who wish to farm at the cap, will take a 1-2 gap and raise only skills essential for their grinding (and take the pvp moves later). the ppl who gap, with a 4-6 gap, will lvl slowly in the long run, and they will have to fight mobs a several lvls lower than them (cause of the lack of updated skills).
these are just my thoughts, so please dont flame .

[lolthatstheshit]

ONGS FTW
300K sp in a week

[breathtaker234]

Careful with euros when farming. Your armor's level-req takes a pretty big toll.

[Braka]

ONGS FTW
300K sp in a week

only possible with ur 24/7 bot's

~OT, save some gold mabe 10-20m and pay ppl to power farm u at ongs during ticket time, thats what i did and i got 400k sp in 1 month with GT+SPt

it really is worth farming because u can 0 gap it all the way without worrying about having to gap or run out of sp also u play the game the fun way with lvling with full skills and killing monsters easier with 0 gap and fully maxed skills, cant beat it.

better to powerfarm at ongs for 1month then slowly lvling and farming that will take u 6 months~1 year longer. trust me on numbers my 1st char took over a year to farm and lvl etc where as this one is on its 2nd month and is allready lvl 6x and fully farmed to 90 cap, i will play the game more funner then the 1st time i know for a fact. GL

edit: btw im still paying for plvling because i have done the 1-6x grind 4-5 times and im not faceing them damn penon again.. i will stop getting plvl when im around 68, and btw the drops u start to get at lvl 5x+ in the caves and gold drops as long as the plvler lets u have a item share pt it more or less covers the gold u pay him, i have made 5m profit on npcing drops in last week on drops alone weeee.

[kevv]

ONGS FTW
300K sp in a week

only possible with ur 24/7 bot's

~OT, save some gold mabe 10-20m and pay ppl to power farm u at ongs during ticket time, thats what i did and i got 400k sp in 1 month with GT+SPt

it really is worth farming because u can 0 gap it all the way without worrying about having to gap or run out of sp also u play the game the fun way with lvling with full skills and killing monsters easier with 0 gap and fully maxed skills, cant beat it.

better to powerfarm at ongs for 1month then slowly lvling and farming that will take u 6 months~1 year longer. trust me on numbers my 1st char took over a year to farm and lvl etc where as this one is on its 2nd month and is allready lvl 6x and fully farmed to 90 cap, i will play the game more funner then the 1st time i know for a fact. GL

edit: btw im still paying for plvling because i have done the 1-6x grind 4-5 times and im not faceing them damn penon again.. i will stop getting plvl when im around 68, and btw the drops u start to get at lvl 5x+ in the caves and gold drops as long as the plvler lets u have a item share pt it more or less covers the gold u pay him, i have made 5m profit on npcing drops in last week on drops alone weeee.

Fully agree, imo a new player should concentrate on making some money to get powerfarmed at ongs, it saves so much time and isn't really that expensive. Good post.

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[HertogJan]

you must farm otherwise u be to weak.. just face it

You are a little wrong. An full farmed character will be stronger than an character that lvled with 0-2 gap, but an character that lvled with lets say, 4 gap, or that has gapped higher than 6-7, wont be much weaker than an full farmed one. You do not need to be full farmed to be strong, but being full farmed helps a damn lot.

You sir are wrong, you have to farm to be strong. Although youre right up till level 50 or so. After that it starts to make a difference.

I had my all my skills on 71 to farm, and I was barely able to kill anybody/anything with those skills. However then I leveled up my bow skills to 80 for the fortress war, and I was suddenly able to 2 hit nukers who I wasnt able to kill before that.

[Poochu]

id rather gap than farm its overally faster.

the best way is what ive done to my euro, got a 9 gap, then was powerleveled by an 80 alot of samarkand ongs, i was full farmed for 80 in under a week that way

[FitzChivalry]

Cheers. Good advice, matey.

[JacksDaughter]

If you have 2 computers, you can do this :

Level a first chinese pure int to 60 with 0 gap all the way. Level only 1 tree (I'd choose light). Be bow up to 30 (with the strong shot and double arrow both lvl 1), then spear, and level on green monster till 60.
As skill, you'll need only imbue, mag atk buff, thunderbolt and lion shout. (if you don't earn enough SPs, keep the buff several at a lower level than the others)

Once you reach 60, you buy a nice spear and you PL your other char at ongs. Here you have 2 books for the thunderbolt, which allows you to nuke non stop .

lvl 50 may be enough, concidering you will have 2 books for the thunderbolt as well.

[dannoob]

ONGS FTW
300K sp in a week

only possible with ur 24/7 bot's

~OT, save some gold mabe 10-20m and pay ppl to power farm u at ongs during ticket time, thats what i did and i got 400k sp in 1 month with GT+SPt

it really is worth farming because u can 0 gap it all the way without worrying about having to gap or run out of sp also u play the game the fun way with lvling with full skills and killing monsters easier with 0 gap and fully maxed skills, cant beat it.

better to powerfarm at ongs for 1month then slowly lvling and farming that will take u 6 months~1 year longer. trust me on numbers my 1st char took over a year to farm and lvl etc where as this one is on its 2nd month and is allready lvl 6x and fully farmed to 90 cap, i will play the game more funner then the 1st time i know for a fact. GL

edit: btw im still paying for plvling because i have done the 1-6x grind 4-5 times and im not faceing them damn penon again.. i will stop getting plvl when im around 68, and btw the drops u start to get at lvl 5x+ in the caves and gold drops as long as the plvler lets u have a item share pt it more or less covers the gold u pay him, i have made 5m profit on npcing drops in last week on drops alone weeee.

+1 ya if you manage to get into a plvl pt with item auto share on as well you can usually pay for the current plvl and the next one if you get a drop or two when they're grinding on something 50+, happened to my other char and ended up making more money and getting plvled XD

[raphaell666]

You sir are wrong, you have to farm to be strong. Although youre right up till level 50 or so. After that it starts to make a difference.

I had my all my skills on 71 to farm, and I was barely able to kill anybody/anything with those skills. However then I leveled up my bow skills to 80 for the fortress war, and I was suddenly able to 2 hit nukers who I wasnt able to kill before that.

I did not think about that. You are right, near the cap farming make a lot of diference.

[nohunta]

How can i get to euro's Ongs and im chinese....i tried running from hotan but its not going down with blood flowers hitting 2k on my 500 hp pure int garment

[Feataler]

Hello. You said that with a gap of 4 you can get 350k of sp. You are wrong, you can get only around 315k. To 90 cap, I done some tests, and an full str glavier to be full farmed will need approx. 800k of sp. Leveling with 4 gap from 10 to 90 will only get you 539k. You would need to lvl with 5-6gap, because 6 gap gives you over 900k of sp, so you would not need that much. Leveling with a 6 gap would be really painfull.. Well, my point is that there is no way to completely avoid sp farming. Leveling with a 4 gap would help you a lot, but would not be enough to be full farmed. For new players, and for people who really dont like to farm, but want to be strong, 4 gap would be probably the best because they will be able to have most of the skills for their lvl. The 9 gap long farming will be greatly reduced if you lvl with 4 gap. This is a really usefull idea, I agree that when the 9 gap farming guy finishes farming, the 4 gap one would be 30 or + levels higher, but the 9 gap one would lvl with 0 gap after farming really fast. I wonder if they would match after some time..

A pure str glavier can go from 1 to 70 with 4 gap... you see only from lvl 70 to 80 with 0 gap you get like 100k sp... when from lvl 1 to 50 a good str glavier build needs less than 60k SP.

[Doctor_MOS]

Hello. You said that with a gap of 4 you can get 350k of sp. You are wrong, you can get only around 315k. To 90 cap, I done some tests, and an full str glavier to be full farmed will need approx. 800k of sp. Leveling with 4 gap from 10 to 90 will only get you 539k. You would need to lvl with 5-6gap, because 6 gap gives you over 900k of sp, so you would not need that much. Leveling with a 6 gap would be really painfull.. Well, my point is that there is no way to completely avoid sp farming. Leveling with a 4 gap would help you a lot, but would not be enough to be full farmed. For new players, and for people who really dont like to farm, but want to be strong, 4 gap would be probably the best because they will be able to have most of the skills for their lvl. The 9 gap long farming will be greatly reduced if you lvl with 4 gap. This is a really usefull idea, I agree that when the 9 gap farming guy finishes farming, the 4 gap one would be 30 or + levels higher, but the 9 gap one would lvl with 0 gap after farming really fast. I wonder if they would match after some time..

A pure str glavier can go from 1 to 70 with 4 gap... you see only from lvl 70 to 80 with 0 gap you get like 100k sp... when from lvl 1 to 50 a good str glavier build needs less than 60k SP.

I think you should examine the sp calculator better lol

you get 100k sp when 0 gapping from 80 to 90 tho, but that won't get you full farmed ffs

[raphaell666]

A pure str glavier can go from 1 to 70 with 4 gap... you see only from lvl 70 to 80 with 0 gap you get like 100k sp... when from lvl 1 to 50 a good str glavier build needs less than 60k SP.

I think you should examine the sp calculator better lol

you get 100k sp when 0 gapping from 80 to 90 tho, but that won't get you full farmed ffs

Feataler, an good pure str glavier on lvl 50, to be full farmed would really need approx. 63k of sp, you are right about this one, but with 4 gap from 1 to 50 you would get approx. 49k of sp, it would not be enough to be full farmed. A pure str glavier from 1 to 70 with a 4 gap will get only 172k of sp, but to a glavier be full farmed on lvl 70, would need approx. 234k of sp. And no, from 70 to 80, 0 gap do not give you 100k of sp, it gives you 66k. And yes, you do get 100k from 80 to 90, Doctor_MOS is right.
With 4 gap you will NOT, NEVER be full farmed, but you will have probably most of the skills you 'll need.
NOTE: im using the 90light/90fire/90heuksal/30cold build.

[noobert mclagg]

My build 90 bich/ 90 light/ 90 fire/ 30 ice cost 699,691 sp and I farmed at strong hold to 10.4k which got my masteries to 30 bich/ 29 light/ 29 fire/ 25 ice. I did getting power farmed by my guardian once in a while for free. But 10k wasn't that hard and I felt good after I finished so even though I am not new at the game I would encourage people to farm at low lvls to small amount like me because I am gunna farm more later on and most of the farming you do will be when you get to the cap. Also, if you maintain a gap like 4, 5, or 6 u never get to hav ur skills up to date.

[noobert mclagg]

How can i get to euro's Ongs and im chinese....i tried running from hotan but its not going down with blood flowers hitting 2k on my 500 hp pure int garment

Use the portals

[DESOUL]

How can i get to euro's Ongs and im chinese....i tried running from hotan but its not going down with blood flowers hitting 2k on my 500 hp pure int garment

Portal to Samarkand (5x3=15k worth) and go south till you reach Ong habbitat, asuming you don't die from Kokoros on the way there ;P

P.S. And 500hp? What are you below level 20? Ongs are lv 33-34 so no point in going there for you now.

[fengsta]

i did this with my previous blader... and correct me if i have this totally wrong...

but i leveled and enjoyed the jangan portion of the game until 16 while i farmed at an 8 lvl gap. I farmed around 10k sp, which was enough to hold me until lvl 30 or so. Then i had again an 8 lvl gap and farmed for a bit. I think breaking up the farming helps to reduce boredom in the game and lets you explore the game more. I was planning on lvling at 42, 52, 62 and so on, but i quit for a while before all that

[menos]

ok, my build needs 501k sp to lvl 90,
i admit i dont plan on owning pvp, and im fine with that, as when i reach the cap, i can farm and get the pvp skills i need.
at a 4 gap to lvl 90 i get 540k sp, so i have 39k for other skills.