Benazir Bhutto Assassinated

TOloseGT · Post by **TOloseGT** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 7:49 am

humans are more than capable of living in peace, but a peace that was carved from fear. we fear retaliation and the breakdown of order and civility. we fear the consequences of striking out at another group of ppl. we can never respect other ppl fully, and equality is a joke. peace is a temporary solution that eventually leads to destruction.

but that's ok. humans have the ability to rebuild. one civilization disappears, and another sprouts up.

redneck · Post by **redneck** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 4:17 pm

dom wrote:Canada has diesel-electric submarines bought second hand from the UK; and a retrofitted version of the tanks the germans used in WWII - bitcheeesssssesssss

I love Canada....

http://youtube.com/watch?v=gvskLypt0c4

XemnasXD · Post by **XemnasXD** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 4:20 pm

TOloseGT wrote:humans are more than capable of living in peace, but a peace that was carved from fear. we fear retaliation and the breakdown of order and civility. we fear the consequences of striking out at another group of ppl. we can never respect other ppl fully, and equality is a joke. peace is a temporary solution that eventually leads to destruction.

but that's ok. humans have the ability to rebuild. one civilization disappears, and another sprouts up.

ye of little faith. Humanity has time to learn and to grow i don't think we'll be stuck in this adolescent phase for much longer.

TOloseGT · Post by **TOloseGT** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 5:49 pm

i realize that we're still infants in the grand scheme of things, but the time when we could put down our arms and respect ourselves is still far away.

XemnasXD wrote:i don't think we'll be stuck in this adolescent phase for much longer.

do you truly believe that we will grow up anytime soon? as long as we have guns pointing at our rivals, we will never achieve lasting peace. you said it urself that the world is going in a downward spiral.

Priam · Post by **Priam** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 9:16 am

Something really REALLY bad needs to happen for the world to realise what it's doing. We're not gonna come to this conclusion by ourselves.

XemnasXD · Post by **XemnasXD** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 9:25 am

your right, both priam and Tolose but i can't see the world getting better in the next 20-30 years meaning it will only get worse and if thats the case man will reach his do or die moment....peace or annihilation, theres not much left imo, this era is closing in on its endgame and if the rest of the era is anything to judge it by it will probably end in a very violent way...

mankind always leaps forward after a large conflict, maybe this time in the right direction...

Priam · Post by **Priam** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 9:37 am

Might sound emo, but we're farked anyway. Sure will get a little shaken up after a huge conflict. But we're going right down the same negative spiral 30 years later.

Take a look at the situation after WWII. The world was horrified, Things like that should never happen again, we said.

And look were we're heading now.

Crumpets · Post by **Crumpets** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 3:33 pm

Sorry but I have to post this :s

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20071228/ts ... toministry

ajajjajajajajaja

Jstar1 · Post by **Jstar1** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 3:40 pm

Priam wrote:Something really REALLY bad needs to happen for the world to realise what it's doing. We're not gonna come to this conclusion by ourselves.

I feel there will be a major conflict because russia and china are starting to become powerful. And as they increase their influence to other countries, they will start clashing with America

XemnasXD · Post by **XemnasXD** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 9:18 pm

Crumpets wrote:Sorry but I have to post this :s

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20071228/ts ... toministry

ajajjajajajajaja

not really a laughing moment the world suffered a lose here...

Crumpets · Post by **Crumpets** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 9:41 pm

XemnasXD wrote:not really a laughing moment the world suffered a lose here...

The world suffered a loss? Bollocks lol.

Her death effects **** all.

Reise · Post by **Reise** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 9:43 pm

The stupid shit is you have dumb asses in the middle east that will still go nuts and kill innocent people because of it.

Fat_Smurf · Post by **Fat_Smurf** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 9:49 pm

dom wrote:Canada has diesel-electric submarines bought second hand from the UK; and a retrofitted version of the tanks the germans used in WWII - bitcheeesssssesssss

lol yeah we rock...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=NJ8HKkDr7y0

on topic: is oil price going down or up?

XemnasXD · Post by **XemnasXD** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 10:01 pm

Crumpets wrote:
XemnasXD wrote:not really a laughing moment the world suffered a lose here...

The world suffered a loss? Bollocks lol.

Her death effects **** all.

crumpets your a dumbass....thats all i can say at this point....

Crumpets · Post by **Crumpets** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 11:33 pm

XemnasXD wrote:
crumpets your a dumbass....thats all i can say at this point....

Hmm, I guess you think your an expert on this matter calling me a 'dumb ass'. But let me ask you this: Sine her Death what has change, what will change and how?

If her death was so important then why do I hear nothing about it on the news now? Sorry but they only person in the world that would actually impact the world with his assassination would be good old George W.

If you think you're being all smart and mature about this by saying; oh the world suffered a loss then tell me why. She's just an outspoken person in a farked up country. Or has is something to do with her skin color as usual in your little world ?

XemnasXD · Post by **XemnasXD** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 2:23 am

Crumpets wrote:
XemnasXD wrote:
crumpets your a dumbass....thats all i can say at this point....

Hmm, I guess you think your an expert on this matter calling me a 'dumb ass'. But let me ask you this: Sine her Death what has change, what will change and how?

If her death was so important then why do I hear nothing about it on the news now? Sorry but they only person in the world that would actually impact the world with his assassination would be good old George W.

If you think you're being all smart and mature about this by saying; oh the world suffered a loss then tell me why. She's just an outspoken person in a farked up country. Or has is something to do with her skin color as usual in your little world ?

are you kidding me I don't even watch TV my sister was just flipping through the channels and all you could hear was sh*t about Pakistan and the impact this will have on the country who was one of leading resistances to terrorist organizations (remember the real enemy)

And a US presidents assassination has never impacted the world tremendously normally because its an inside job, if another country was responsible then all hell would break lose but that so far has never been the case.

The ramifications of these events while probably not catastrophic could seriously stretch alot further than Pakistan. The change in gov't will probably reduce the country back to police state ("emergency") and allow another country to become a place where terrorist organizations can hide and prosper. Afaik the organization responsible for the attack was Al-Queda (sound familiar) so yeah the US lost a major ally in the fight against terrorism bringing us a couple steps backward to putting an end to all this shit thats been happening for the past 20 years...

Like i said crumpets your a dumbass trying to turn this into a color issue, trying to make it sound like im acting snobby, parading around your American ignorance like a shield against whats happening in The Rest Of The World. I didn't want to say all this because anyone who bothers to stay in touch with whats going on would know all of this already. But you....YOU'RE A DUMBASS...and thats still all i can say at this point....

Crumpets · Post by **Crumpets** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 2:32 am

And a US presidents assassination has never impacted the world tremendously normally because its an inside job, if another country was responsible then all hell would break lose but that so far has never been the case.

Actually yes they do effect the world.

The ramifications of these events while probably not catastrophic could seriously stretch alot further than Pakistan. The change in gov't will probably reduce the country back to police state ("emergency") and allow another country to become a place where terrorist organizations can hide and prosper. Afaik the organization responsible for the attack was Al-Queda (sound familiar) so yeah the US lost a major ally in the fight against terrorism bringing us a couple steps backward to putting an end to all this shit thats been happening for the past 20 years...

I say again, this will effect nothing.

Like i said crumpets your a dumbass trying to turn this into a color issue, trying to make it sound like im acting snobby, parading around your American ignorance like a shield against whats happening in The Rest Of The World. I didn't want to say all this because anyone who bothers to stay in touch with whats going on would know all of this already. But you....YOUR A DUMBASS...and thats still all i can say at this point....

A: I'm not American.
B: Color issue, I guess I'm a dumb ass for bringin it up in this thread huh. Means you're a dumb ass for randomly bringing it up in every other thread.

anyone who bothers to stay in touch with whats going on would know all of this already

Hilarious. Oh but .. you YOUR A DUMBASS ....

XemnasXD · Post by **XemnasXD** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 2:33 am

is that all...plz crumpets if your going to make a post make it worth reading next time....

Crumpets · Post by **Crumpets** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 2:40 am

XemnasXD wrote::roll: is that all...plz crumpets if your going to make a post make it worth reading next time....

Oh if you can't read it that's fine. We have some good schools around here.

If you can pay for them that is.

XemnasXD · Post by **XemnasXD** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 2:41 am

*yawn*

XuChu · Post by **XuChu** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 2:52 am

It's not like Bhutto made so much of a difference in Pakistan when she was around, Musharraf still got elected. More importantly, neither Iran nor Pakistan are threats to the US, really don't believe everything your president tells you.

Trice · Post by **Trice** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 2:55 am

Her 19yr old son and his father are in charge of the party now.
Im 20 and I would not want that job.

and oh, the election has been delayed. didnt see that coming. >_>

Proud to be Indian. :love:

avanti42 · Post by **avanti42** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 5:14 am

you guys are forgetting the religion of the area

Priam · Post by **Priam** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 10:13 am

XuChu wrote:It's not like Bhutto made so much of a difference in Pakistan when she was around, Musharraf still got elected. More importantly, neither Iran nor Pakistan are threats to the US, really don't believe everything your president tells you.

She had been elected before, and had a good chance of getting elected again as her opponent, well... isn't as interesting.

yes musharref won last term, but that doesn't indicate anything. Plus, he was meant to go on vacation

†erminal · Post by **†erminal** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 10:24 am

I'm tired of the world. Lets go back to using swords and shit instead of guns :love:

Website · Post by **satman83** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 10:34 am

Jstar1 wrote:why can't the middle east just live peacefully like the rest of the world

Ok Pakistan is not in the "middle east" (which in itself is just a part of Asia)

Reise wrote:Iran and Pakistan are only threats because we're making them threats. IMO there's really nothing for us to get involved in.

I find it stupid how the US press and media is calling one of their biggest
allies in all of Asia a threat now, when truth be told the entire region would be
a lot better off with Musharraf in charge as hes will and is dealing with extremist
and terrorists.