90 Cap= Chinese Ownage?

[EngravedDemon]

Euros are weaker.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=tbn_5IGepXE

Mostly noob euros pvping...

[Barotix]

Euros are weaker.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=tbn_5IGepXE

that vid was made when ksro's pot delay was still 30 seconds -_-. in ksro the new pot delay is 10 seconds because when they reduced the delay from 30 to 15 it still wasn't enough to stand a chance against the chinese -_-. so yes euros will get anally raped unless at 90 cap with 9 deg joymax decides to make the delay for euro 10 seconds instead of 15.

damn i just logged in i think while is a little tipsy on egg nog i spent all sp that i was farming -_-, damn time to reroll

@demon, their all lvl 90... Ksro has had 90 cap since 2005 ... and euro since 2006
@silo, damn weak rogues

[NuclearSilo]

Euros are weaker.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=tbn_5IGepXE

that vid was made when ksro's pot delay was still 30 seconds -_-. in ksro the new pot delay is 10 seconds because when they reduced the delay from 30 to 15 it still wasn't enough to stand a chance against the chinese -_-. so yes euros will get anally raped unless at 90 cap with 9 deg joymax decides to make the delay for euro 10 seconds instead of 15.

damn i just logged in i think while is a little tipsy on egg nog i spent all sp that i was farming -_-, damn time to reroll

@demon, their all lvl 90... Ksro has had 90 cap since 2005 ... and euro since 2006

15s lol?
rogue got raped in 4s....

[torinchibi]

...We don't even know the circumstances of the PvP. Were the warriors using skins? Were the rogues starting off from far away, it looked like they weren't. If you noticed though, there was barely any wizard action, the warlocks raped all their opponents. The glaviers were using sox weapons and the euros were not. We only saw a few newbie rogues, like 1 warrior that was in 9D... and 2-3 rogues in 9D. You could see some 8D rogue with bless spell trying to take down a glavier...Most of all though, we didn't see those new skills getting used since the glaviers didn't get any new skills that would help them...

@V0rtex I don't even need to use pots, and I am currently using large pots even at lvl 76 simply because my healing cycle heals 3-3.5k hp every 5 sec, and it's level 68 or 70...not even up to date. You are right though, if you are using grains on your warrior it doesn't even matter... rogues might have a hard time though, they can't use grains since they can't tank long enough for that to be effective.

[AngloKnight]

this vid was sick lol... i wanna burn the guy who made it :S and yeah, it's not that clear...

[EvilDiablo]

Euros are weaker.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=tbn_5IGepXE

/agree,

[BaronSengir]

rofl @ noob saying new pots at 90

i know you are defending your build but dont talk bs that you dont know

[StacE]

I don't think the 90cap will be any different than 80 cap.

Euro's still get advancements on skills... And each class got new great skills at 80, so thats why we won't get new attacking skills 81-90.

With the increase in damage, less sun'd opposition and no pot healing increase I can see the Euro's benefitting more than the new Chinese with their new skills.

[Da_Realest]

that vid was made when ksro's pot delay was still 30 seconds -_-. in ksro the new pot delay is 10 seconds because when they reduced the delay from 30 to 15 it still wasn't enough to stand a chance against the chinese -_-. so yes euros will get anally raped unless at 90 cap with 9 deg joymax decides to make the delay for euro 10 seconds instead of 15.

I just logged off my Euro on ksro a few mins ago. Pot delay is still 15 secs. Also, I'm pretty sure pot delay was 15 secs when I made that vid too. Could be wrong though.

Anyway, I never really did like the whole 1v1 thing and I don't get the point of Euro vs China. Not like they can't party together.

A team of Euro and Chinese plaayers will always outshine a party of only Euro or Chinese players. Euro characters will always have the edge when it comes to damage but Chinese characters will always have the edge when it comes to tanking.

Besides the fact that a sun 8th degree weapon will not be be as lethal at the 90 cap, I don't believe much will change. Euro characters will still drop like flies and still one shot you given the opportunity. Its not like Euro characters stop getting skills upgrades or something. Everything offsets. The only thing that will tip the scales of balance is Snow Shield upgrades, new skills, or new books of old skills with new effects. Particularly Snow Shield because it doesn't matter how much damage you're taking if the majority of it is being absorbed. JM does a pretty good job of keeping the masteries fairly balanced making adjustments when necessary.

Best thing to do is not worry about it at all. If you feel that you have too worry, at least wait until the cap is announced first.

[MrFudge]

Everyone quit your euro chars except for the Clerics!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

hmm i watched that Euro PvP 2 vid, and those euros seem to be really underfarmed.

that full 9d 2h sword didnt even have dare devil..

[UniqueSpawn]

^^

[MrFudge]

^^

what an insightful post young man.

[borat2]

that vid was made when ksro's pot delay was still 30 seconds -_-. in ksro the new pot delay is 10 seconds because when they reduced the delay from 30 to 15 it still wasn't enough to stand a chance against the chinese -_-. so yes euros will get anally raped unless at 90 cap with 9 deg joymax decides to make the delay for euro 10 seconds instead of 15.

I just logged off my Euro on ksro a few mins ago. Pot delay is still 15 secs. Also, I'm pretty sure pot delay was 15 secs when I made that vid too. Could be wrong though.

Anyway, I never really did like the whole 1v1 thing and I don't get the point of Euro vs China. Not like they can't party together.

A team of Euro and Chinese plaayers will always outshine a party of only Euro or Chinese players. Euro characters will always have the edge when it comes to damage but Chinese characters will always have the edge when it comes to tanking.

Besides the fact that a sun 8th degree weapon will not be be as lethal at the 90 cap, I don't believe much will change. Euro characters will still drop like flies and still one shot you given the opportunity. Its not like Euro characters stop getting skills upgrades or something. Everything offsets. The only thing that will tip the scales of balance is Snow Shield upgrades, new skills, or new books of old skills with new effects. Particularly Snow Shield because it doesn't matter how much damage you're taking if the majority of it is being absorbed. JM does a pretty good job of keeping the masteries fairly balanced making adjustments when necessary.

Best thing to do is not worry about it at all. If you feel that you have too worry, at least wait until the cap is announced first.

never had to add the +1 to any post but you sure get one
and also spam your vids in this topic
http://youtube.com/profile_videos?user=AceOps
http://www.stage6.com/user/AceOps/videos

[MrFudge]

that vid was made when ksro's pot delay was still 30 seconds -_-. in ksro the new pot delay is 10 seconds because when they reduced the delay from 30 to 15 it still wasn't enough to stand a chance against the chinese -_-. so yes euros will get anally raped unless at 90 cap with 9 deg joymax decides to make the delay for euro 10 seconds instead of 15.

I just logged off my Euro on ksro a few mins ago. Pot delay is still 15 secs. Also, I'm pretty sure pot delay was 15 secs when I made that vid too. Could be wrong though.

Anyway, I never really did like the whole 1v1 thing and I don't get the point of Euro vs China. Not like they can't party together.

A team of Euro and Chinese plaayers will always outshine a party of only Euro or Chinese players. Euro characters will always have the edge when it comes to damage but Chinese characters will always have the edge when it comes to tanking.

Besides the fact that a sun 8th degree weapon will not be be as lethal at the 90 cap, I don't believe much will change. Euro characters will still drop like flies and still one shot you given the opportunity. Its not like Euro characters stop getting skills upgrades or something. Everything offsets. The only thing that will tip the scales of balance is Snow Shield upgrades, new skills, or new books of old skills with new effects. Particularly Snow Shield because it doesn't matter how much damage you're taking if the majority of it is being absorbed. JM does a pretty good job of keeping the masteries fairly balanced making adjustments when necessary.

Best thing to do is not worry about it at all. If you feel that you have too worry, at least wait until the cap is announced first.

never had to add the +1 to any post but you sure get one
and also spam your vids in this topic
http://youtube.com/profile_videos?user=AceOps
http://www.stage6.com/user/AceOps/videos

lol, please kind man, would you like to go on ksro and film us some euro pwnage of the chinese chars?
that is , if you can find the footage

[borat2]

ah its http://www.stage6.com/user/AceOps/videos/

yeah i demand videos of each build and not 1 battle but first to 5wins
then i know what to start making since that is the ownage in ksro

/me sends email to Da_Reales with my request

[Blasjr]

Have any of you guys hit a EURO Char. with a Sun 64 + 7 Glaive? I have (and they die rather easy) !!

The only way a Chinese char can die to Euro is if they're in a team and Chinese don't know what they re doing, otherwise they all die rather easy. Pot delays dont help them. So in a group setting (War) you go after the Resser/buffer first, then kill every1 else. In war times, strategy wins, not the characters. There's no "I" in team. On a 1 vs 1, I must say I've never lost to a European. Not a challenge guys, just my experience in Olympus.

[Niani]

Have any of you guys hit a EURO Char. with a Sun 64 + 7 Glaive? I have (and they die rather easy) !!

The only way a Chinese char can die to Euro is if they're in a team and Chinese don't know what they re doing, otherwise they all die rather easy. Pot delays dont help them. So in a group setting (War) you go after the Resser/buffer first, then kill every1 else. In war times, strategy wins, not the characters. There's no "I" in team. On a 1 vs 1, I must say I've never lost to a European. Not a challenge guys, just my experience in Olympus.

Well if your fighting a team of Euro's and they see you going after the cleric, whats to say the rogue of the team won't scorn you, then you'll be a sitting duck looking for the rogue who taunted you. It would be even worse if the Rogue had lvled up Scorn to the current max, that's 6-7 seconds of you just sitting there getting wailed on

[Disconn3cted]

Have any of you guys hit a EURO Char. with a Sun 64 + 7 Glaive? I have (and they die rather easy) !!

The only way a Chinese char can die to Euro is if they're in a team and Chinese don't know what they re doing, otherwise they all die rather easy. Pot delays dont help them. So in a group setting (War) you go after the Resser/buffer first, then kill every1 else. In war times, strategy wins, not the characters. There's no "I" in team. On a 1 vs 1, I must say I've never lost to a European. Not a challenge guys, just my experience in Olympus.

imagine is the euro had a sun +7 weapon you would stand no chance

[ShadowSpell]

Have any of you guys hit a EURO Char. with a Sun 64 + 7 Glaive? I have (and they die rather easy) !!

The only way a Chinese char can die to Euro is if they're in a team and Chinese don't know what they re doing, otherwise they all die rather easy. Pot delays dont help them. So in a group setting (War) you go after the Resser/buffer first, then kill every1 else. In war times, strategy wins, not the characters. There's no "I" in team. On a 1 vs 1, I must say I've never lost to a European. Not a challenge guys, just my experience in Olympus.

imagine is the euro had a sun +7 weapon you would stand no chance

well if you think a sun weapon is a fair fight your an idiot Blasjr, and if you have never lost to a euro then you have never fought a euro that is farmed or your lvl, I can 1 vs 1 anyone right now and I will win 3 out of 5 matchs regardless if they are lvl 80 suns fully farmed.

and if a wizard had a +7 sun weapon even a fully farmed lvl 80 full sun blader would get hit for 25k

[XMoshe]

Euros are weaker.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=tbn_5IGepXE

that says nothing, that was at the beginning of euro..and that rogue you see the most didnt even use his stealth to get that edge of range and surprise =/

you can only do something when you get your bless spell running soulreapr...and really, you will loose without it..and I think you will have a hard time against a sun blader.

or you gotta be such a quick weapon switcher to heal etc...

[ShadowSpell]

it pretty much comes down to if a euro gets to you first you are dead.

[Da_Realest]

lol Talked to a few Koreans and asked them why there aren't many Euros pvping. Many of them said they don't like the fact that they die so fast. They just like the Cleric, Bard, and Warrior buffs. Thats what some of them said anyway.

You don't have to worry about a Euro one shotting you when you got buffs like these.






Party up.

[Blasjr]

WoW guys its just a game! OMG, first of all I'm not an idiot, and second of all the only way I was killed by a EURO Character was in zerk and I let them 4 hit me, and yes they were fully farmed. So there (just maybe my SUN + 7 Garments and accessories gear had something 2 do with it?).

So there, where does that make me an Idiot. Watch yourself, bro. I dont take offenses for no reason rather easy, I'm not a child, and I teach to respect others. Maybe you need more etiquette and moral teachings? A nice book I read once in a while says: Do unto others as you would want others to do unto you. Ever heard it? Plus why offend over what? ROFL

Reasons why they dont drop Sun gear for Euros (i dont know too much about this game, remember ) Their attack rating for Clerics is so much higher than anything else, a +7 rod should do the trick, however, POT DELAY I will one hit any1 of them, sorry! And invisibility is easily offset by EURO buff. So you can run, but you cant hide.

So there, the NOOB Blasjr idiot clearing up things a bit.

[AngloKnight]

well guys, my character, I'm almost lvl60 Rogue with sub class bard, I get only speed and noise buffs so nothing special about me... I got the worst light armour you can imagine and yeah I own higher lvl STR and INT builds, Euros or Chinese... With or without snow shield... I don't put in my calculations the factor of being hit, because my job is to finish off my enemy before he hits back... So my point here is, will the chinese get more defenses? Snow shield is pretty easy, I'm talking about the fire and cold defensive buffs, will they get THAT strong to protect them that hard? OR will the Euros get weaker when attacking?

[Blasjr]

Highest damage hit was 14K i had HP 27K. So there, what does a Cleric do when they Zerk you hit you and only gets a 14K Crit on you, and you don't die? They RUNNNNNN or turn Invisible, either way they're dead! I'm not saying they're a bad build (race), its just that its based on team not 1 V 1 scenario, they won't fair well ag Full Sun STR Glaiver/Blader, and most likely a Hybrid Sword Chinese, sorry mate!

And as we've seen on most servers, not many EURO's stick together, so better for the Chinese Race.

I use a 2hand sword full str EURO, still die to a Chinese sun blader, glaiver, sword...So dont feel bad. When we team up as Euros together, we're pretty much unbeatable. But for this to happen, Euros must train, grind together, form teams at early stage, so that they understand each others strengths and weaknesses. Most children dont have patience for this, they prefer to bot 24/7, and then dont know what to do with it! Peace

[Disconn3cted]

Highest damage hit was 14K i had HP 27K. So there, what does a Cleric do when they Zerk you hit you and only gets a 14K Crit on you, and you don't die? They RUNNNNNN or turn Invisible, either way they're dead! I'm not saying they're a bad build (race), its just that its based on team not 1 V 1 scenario, they won't fair well ag Full Sun STR Glaiver/Blader, and most likely a Hybrid Sword Chinese, sorry mate!

And as we've seen on most servers, not many EURO's stick together, so better for the Chinese Race.

I use a 2hand sword full str EURO, still die to a Chinese sun blader, glaiver, sword...So dont feel bad. When we team up as Euros together, we're pretty much unbeatable. But for this to happen, Euros must train, grind together, form teams at early stage, so that they understand each others strengths and weaknesses. Most children dont have patience for this, they prefer to bot 24/7, and then dont know what to do with it! Peace

i think you are lying for a few reasons

clerics can't crit so there is no way he'd hit a 14k crit


if a cleric used offering on you, you would be dead if he zerked even if you had full sosun+7

27k hp? i dont think so

[Naigasakis_Rebirth]

lolz the races are balanced why don't you people understand that. People in kSRO pvp with chinese because they dont have to wait around for their friends to join and form a party. But in the fortress wars chinese and euros are completely balanced. A party of 8 chinese can kill a party of 8 euros just as fast as the reverse in the situation.

With that said, just because it happens over there doesnt meen it will happen here. I can't tell you how many rogues, wizards and warriors I leave cry when all there mass damage and effects are muted a simple 5 arrow combo with ice imbue followed by a 4 arrow combo 3 arrow combo back to the five then a anti-devil crit to the mouth.

I don't think users on the older servers should even bother commenting in issues like this. Your minds are so used to depending on SoSun that the surprise you are going to get when there isnt any will be worth you-tubing.

[Blasjr]

Last post on this topic, Does it really matter?

But yes full str, special ticket, +5 str on all your gear and Jewels is 27.5K or so...Bye.

[ShadowSpell]

Highest damage hit was 14K i had HP 27K. So there, what does a Cleric do when they Zerk you hit you and only gets a 14K Crit on you, and you don't die? They RUNNNNNN or turn Invisible, either way they're dead! I'm not saying they're a bad build (race), its just that its based on team not 1 V 1 scenario, they won't fair well ag Full Sun STR Glaiver/Blader, and most likely a Hybrid Sword Chinese, sorry mate!

And as we've seen on most servers, not many EURO's stick together, so better for the Chinese Race.

I use a 2hand sword full str EURO, still die to a Chinese sun blader, glaiver, sword...So dont feel bad. When we team up as Euros together, we're pretty much unbeatable. But for this to happen, Euros must train, grind together, form teams at early stage, so that they understand each others strengths and weaknesses. Most children dont have patience for this, they prefer to bot 24/7, and then dont know what to do with it! Peace

1st, its given that if your are full sun+7 you should keep your mouth shut since everyone knows how you got it and dont try to deny it

2nd, 14k from pure offering, lol what did they have lvl 60 skills? my lvl 80 wizard will hit a full sun for 18k and none sun for 22k

3rd, 27k hp so your relying on euro buffs to keep you alive, and you always have a cleric with you?

4th, and its not 1 vs 1 when you have a cleric buffing you.

[ShadowSpell]

Last post on this topic, Does it really matter?

But yes full str, special ticket, +5 str on all your gear and Jewels is 27.5K or so...Bye.

thats why i said your an idiot, for comments like this. its 22.5k