Should i dlvl?

Darknesis · Post by **Darknesis** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 8:37 pm

im lvl 35 Warrior
i have warlock as sub class at lvl 25
should i delvl it to 0 and go for cleric or stay whit it??

Braka · Post by **Braka** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 9:05 pm

warlock is a good sub for pvp, since ur str ur mp is to low to spam cleric spells etc to make it as usefull as warlock

SuperTanker · Post by **SuperTanker** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 9:22 pm

ya warlock good. i would have said cleric but the cleric buffs cant be used on urself, it has to be used on someone else.
u dont have to dlvl, unless u want to.

casqueda · Post by **casqueda** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 10:17 pm

i would delevel for cleric
cus cleric is ballin

0nix · Post by **0nix** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:25 am

casqueda wrote:i would delevel for cleric
cus cleric is ballin

yeah. but depents. if u gonna go solo, cleric is useless. but for party and espicially guildwars, cleric sure kick ass.

Darknesis · Post by **Darknesis** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:31 am

damn!! XD im not sure ...
i go to pvp as Warrior/warlock
i and kill very easy and many people the only problems ware the xbows
i make this ..:
put the shield and rod on.. then Stun>if stun works>Physical Raze>switch to 2handed >Taunt Rising>Charge Swim>Bash>DEAD
lol
but
aaf.. i dont know

Warlock..Cleric

nphillip · Post by **nphillip** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:36 am

warriors dont need cleric buffs.

there tankers already ..

Darknesis · Post by **Darknesis** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:37 am

Weell..!
WARRIOR/WARLOCK

casqueda · Post by **casqueda** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 2:02 am

0nex wrote:
casqueda wrote:i would delevel for cleric
cus cleric is ballin

yeah. but depents. if u gonna go solo, cleric is useless. but for party and espicially guildwars, cleric sure kick ass.

lol
i prefer to solo, cus it takes time to find parties and stuff, and some people jsut stay there and drain your exp
i think its more efficient.

Psylonite · Post by **Psylonite** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 2:51 am

Depends. If you want to go through the hassle of farming hundreds of hearts (or just buy the item mall ones), then delevel Warlock for Cleric, since IMO Cleric is better overall.

On the other hand, Warlock can be great when used properly, especially on those who choose Bard over Cleric as subs (unless they main Cleric).

Braka wrote:warlock is a good sub for pvp, since ur str ur mp is to low to spam cleric spells etc to make it as usefull as warlock

Warlock spells aren't that cheap in MP either at higher levels.

Besides, the important Cleric buffs don't need to be spammed.

SuperTanker wrote:i would have said cleric but the cleric buffs cant be used on urself, it has to be used on someone else.

The most useful of the Cleric buffs can be used on yourself (i.e., Bless Spell, Recovery Division, and Holy World/Spell).

0nex wrote:yeah. but depents. if u gonna go solo, cleric is useless.

A Cleric is never useless.

Kawaii · Post by **Kawaii** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 4:24 pm

Nah stick with warlock
Skills to use:
Courage Raze (you do like 2x damage)
Combat Raze (player does like half damage)
Bloody trap (extra random damage)
Stun
Sleep (you don't reallllly need this but if you want to drink tea or something get it)
Illusion hides your lvl (but again... not necessary)
Reflect/Adv reflect (but can't switch weapon)if they nuke or something you have the hp to have them kill themselves
wheel bind adds 4 secs to pot delay i think (but i wouldn't get it... you would have to cast too many times...too much switching)
Vampire kiss is good when surrounded... almost like an instant hp fill if lots of mobs are around

Darknesis · Post by **Darknesis** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 4:55 pm

AAAarrr.. i have enough Hearts

but... i not sure! F.War i comming
those cleric spells stay when i change to My sword?

Psylonite · Post by **Psylonite** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 7:52 pm

Darknesis wrote:those cleric spells stay when i change to My sword?

These ones do: Bless Spell, Holy Word, Healing Cycle, and Heaven Flash. So does Recovery Division and the Reverse Oblation buff (res only) at 40+.

Body/Soul Blessing seem to stay on only when casted on other players (not sure if this is a bug, given its description states Cleric Rod as Required).

xKingpinx · Post by **xKingpinx** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 8:20 pm

no warlock sub is good man ....because if your fast you can do all your debuffs on them then cast stun and sleep and then switch to 2h and knock the shit out of them...

Darknesis · Post by **Darknesis** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 9:15 pm

xKingpinx wrote:no warlock sub is good man ....because if your fast you can do all your debuffs on them then cast stun and sleep and then switch to 2h and knock the shit out of them...

yaa .i make that

Stun>Physical Raze>2h!

kaboom786 · Post by **kaboom786** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 11:00 pm

warlock might be good if you really get the hang of constant switching and making better decision on what to do next... in short you have to be a fast thinker.
Another thing to keep in mind is if you're focusing on pvp , which is all that there is to this game after cap... then you have to know that, at least on my server, a lot of euro classes have their subs as clerics. This means they get holy word and it's up for 300 secs, and it's gonna make 'em immune to any warlock debuffs . So the phys raze etc will pretty much be useless if any euro class with cleric sub has that spell on. u'll only be left with a stun... i'm not sure if the stun upgrade at lvl 76 or something has a different timer on it , if it does u get two stuns, but anyway relying on a stun alone to disable someone for 5 secs to take him out is probably a pretty random situation to rely on. Bless spell and recovery division on any cleric-subbed euro class will keep them up for a good while , ofcourse assuming they have decent gear to go along with that.
If you wanna see that a warlock is something u can handle i suggest you make a noob warlock and play around with it for a while , just so u know ur safe and dont have to spend money on dlvling if u like it and wanna stick to it