What is a soul?

†erminal · Post by **†erminal** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 5:53 am

I was just wondering to myself, what exactly is a soul?
I think of think as your soul as YOU. Like imagine a Soul Cell, a cell that is always YOU. Atoms don't get destroyed, they just change form, so then isn't it logical to think that you don't die, you just change?
I mean your human body wouldn't remember you being part of a rock a million years ago, but that doesn't mean that in a point of time YOU were something else, alive but not with the functions as a human.
No i'm not high.

Wu · Post by Wu » Tue Dec 11, 2007 6:06 am

I see the soul as the result of awareness and self realisation.

Too tired to add more sry

XemnasXD · Post by **XemnasXD** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 6:09 am

I see the soul a internal life force that runs through all things in existence. The soul is recycled back into the universe dispersed and mixed so that it can form new souls and new life.

cin · Post by **cin** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 6:15 am

lulz, just watched the Golden Compass the other day, where souls walk beside
you as pet animals. idk about souls really.. some think ghosts are souls..

†erminal · Post by **†erminal** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 6:20 am

rofl
according to CNN
The Golden Compass is a nottie movie that causes Atheism and undermines children's belief in christianity :!:

"Causes Atheism"
what the ****? its a belief not a disease.

Love · Post by **Love** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 6:21 am

i would describe soul as the part of you that is hard to describe that makes you feel alive, do good things, have ambitions what makes us human you can say so if you see some guy just sitting there doing nothing some people may describe him as being souless couse he doesnt has that desire to live/do stuff

resume
soul is what makes us human
no you wont fly away when you die you will just hmmm die........
lol i wouldnt want to be a dog after i die

Inuyasha584 · Post by **Inuyasha584** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 7:41 am

i see a soul as a mini ghostie inside ur body =P

hmm another question..what is a soul train?

†erminal · Post by **†erminal** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 7:43 am

choo-choo

Niton · Post by **Niton** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 7:57 am

Soul is an entity of the human body, it connects your body function to work. Without soul, there would be no brain function, it reflects on human consciousness, you might be living today, what if you didn't exist? Soul makes you here, and under the universal balance, gravity applied souls weight.

There is this experiment where people measure the weight of a person, the weight of the person before he died is larger than the weight after the person died. There is a loss of mass. If Einsteins states that mass can be converted into mass and vice versa, than the weight that is loss could be energy that is kept within. Should soul be consider a type of energy that triggers our consciousness? The greatest scientist can explain that, that is God.

Love · Post by **Love** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 7:59 am

Niton wrote:Soul is an entity of the human body, it connects your body function to work. Without soul, there would be no brain function, it reflects on human consciousness, you might be living today, what if you didn't exist? Soul makes you here, and under the universal balance, gravity applied souls weight.

There is this experiment where people measure the weight of a person, the weight of the person before he died is larger than the weight after the person died. There is a loss of mass. If Einsteins states that mass can be converted into mass and vice versa, than the weight that is loss could be energy that is kept within. Should soul be consider a type of energy that triggers our consciousness? The greatest scientist can explain that, that is God.

soul is what we call that desire to live that human quality we have if you like to believe spirits actually exist o.O but that is just what i think.......

Niton · Post by **Niton** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 8:14 am

Love wrote:
Niton wrote:Soul is an entity of the human body, it connects your body function to work. Without soul, there would be no brain function, it reflects on human consciousness, you might be living today, what if you didn't exist? Soul makes you here, and under the universal balance, gravity applied souls weight.

There is this experiment where people measure the weight of a person, the weight of the person before he died is larger than the weight after the person died. There is a loss of mass. If Einsteins states that mass can be converted into mass and vice versa, than the weight that is loss could be energy that is kept within. Should soul be consider a type of energy that triggers our consciousness? The greatest scientist can explain that, that is God.

soul is what we call that desire to live that human quality we have if you like to believe spirits actually exist o.O but that is just what i think.......

Humans did not understand morality at first place, nor they can interpret it as Good or bad. Why does, God's word in the bible or Quran, Is always correct? Why is everything seems to be correct, if we follow God's wisdom? It is because that God is always full of righteousness, his wisdom is totally correct, zero injustice. The idea of freedom is also came from God's command, then it is reformed by human to create ideology of freedom. This is to create a total happiness. You might say there is a positive side of greed, but does greed makes all people happy? The science, freemasons studies of religious work, of the divine, all started here. Even science is started through the interest of divine knowledge base on religious books. Now we have to see upon what is the thing that we are missing, you might feel something that is missing in your life, until you have read what i have read, stephen hawkings reach the same thing

that you soon discover that God, is there for you/

XemnasXD · Post by **XemnasXD** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 8:18 am

Niton wrote:Soul is an entity of the human body, it connects your body function to work. Without soul, there would be no brain function, it reflects on human consciousness, you might be living today, what if you didn't exist? Soul makes you here, and under the universal balance, gravity applied souls weight.

There is this experiment where people measure the weight of a person, the weight of the person before he died is larger than the weight after the person died. There is a loss of mass. If Einsteins states that mass can be converted into mass and vice versa, than the weight that is loss could be energy that is kept within. Should soul be consider a type of energy that triggers our consciousness? The greatest scientist can explain that, that is God.

Bleach wrote:We stand in awe before that which cannot be seen and we respect with every fiber of that which cannot be explained.

To much science can clutter the true meaning of something that is not meant to be understood...at least by the likes of the average human...

Sylhana · Post by **Sylhana** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 9:08 am

What I believe my soul to be, is my personal journey of conciousness, of experiencing, of learning, of indulging my senses with the world I believe to exist in front of me, of my individuality and of my independent self thought. A glimpse of my soul, akin from a flicker of my action (or inaction).

TOloseGT · Post by **TOloseGT** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 9:14 am

my soul's my personality. if i get brain damage, and my personality changes, so does my soul.

Niton wrote:There is this experiment where people measure the weight of a person, the weight of the person before he died is larger than the weight after the person died. There is a loss of mass.

cuz we empty our bowels when we die.

souls are intangible creations of our fantasies that have no bearing in the physical world.

iGod · Post by **iGod** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 11:45 am

Soul is just a metaphor?

Isis · Post by **Isis** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 12:32 pm

I've never really thought about it...

But I want to go and see the Golden Compass just coz of Daniel Craig :love:

Puny · Post by **Puny** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 1:10 pm

A tiny fragment of god that enables god to experience herself as everything that she is and isn´t. Everything has a soul its just that some souls vibrate on an higher level and thus their consience is more aware/selfaware. A soul is a part of God knowing that she is God and showing God to God herself and when in a manifest state (physical) it´s God actual experiencing and manifesting God as God.

Test007 · Post by **Test007** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 1:25 pm

Particularly, I believe that, as soul is nothing but all your thoughts, because I've been asking myself this:So what, once we are dead? What is left? And the thing that is most logical and makes more sense to me is that, at the end, our thoughts will be eternal.

Zod.

heroo · Post by **heroo** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 1:30 pm

Your soul is the inhabiter of your body, and your eyes are the windows of it.

JacksColon · Post by **JacksColon** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 2:21 pm

XemnasXD wrote:
Niton wrote:Soul is an entity of the human body, it connects your body function to work. Without soul, there would be no brain function, it reflects on human consciousness, you might be living today, what if you didn't exist? Soul makes you here, and under the universal balance, gravity applied souls weight.

There is this experiment where people measure the weight of a person, the weight of the person before he died is larger than the weight after the person died. There is a loss of mass. If Einsteins states that mass can be converted into mass and vice versa, than the weight that is loss could be energy that is kept within. Should soul be consider a type of energy that triggers our consciousness? The greatest scientist can explain that, that is God.

Bleach wrote:We stand in awe before that which cannot be seen and we respect with every fiber of that which cannot be explained.

To much science can clutter the true meaning of something that is not meant to be understood...at least by the likes of the average human...

that sounds very "christian"

the idea of a "soul" is human construction to provide more meaning to our otherwise meaningless existence.

XemnasXD · Post by **XemnasXD** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 2:34 pm

sirdingydang wrote:
XemnasXD wrote:
Niton wrote:Soul is an entity of the human body, it connects your body function to work. Without soul, there would be no brain function, it reflects on human consciousness, you might be living today, what if you didn't exist? Soul makes you here, and under the universal balance, gravity applied souls weight.

There is this experiment where people measure the weight of a person, the weight of the person before he died is larger than the weight after the person died. There is a loss of mass. If Einsteins states that mass can be converted into mass and vice versa, than the weight that is loss could be energy that is kept within. Should soul be consider a type of energy that triggers our consciousness? The greatest scientist can explain that, that is God.

Bleach wrote:We stand in awe before that which cannot be seen and we respect with every fiber of that which cannot be explained.

To much science can clutter the true meaning of something that is not meant to be understood...at least by the likes of the average human...

that sounds very "christian"

the idea of a "soul" is human construction to provide more meaning to our otherwise meaningless existence.

odd since im an atheist....i soul is not a human invention like god. The soul doesn't add meaning it is meaning. Like fruit from a tree life is merely there so that more souls may grow. The souls are strengthened by existence and return to the source to repeat the process over and over again. What the source is and its purpose is of no concern to ppl who should just live theres lives the best way they think possible....

Test007 · Post by **Test007** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 3:16 pm

Hershey wrote:
XemnasXD wrote:
sirdingydang wrote:
XemnasXD wrote:
Niton wrote:Soul is an entity of the human body, it connects your body function to work. Without soul, there would be no brain function, it reflects on human consciousness, you might be living today, what if you didn't exist? Soul makes you here, and under the universal balance, gravity applied souls weight.

There is this experiment where people measure the weight of a person, the weight of the person before he died is larger than the weight after the person died. There is a loss of mass. If Einsteins states that mass can be converted into mass and vice versa, than the weight that is loss could be energy that is kept within. Should soul be consider a type of energy that triggers our consciousness? The greatest scientist can explain that, that is God.

Bleach wrote:We stand in awe before that which cannot be seen and we respect with every fiber of that which cannot be explained.

To much science can clutter the true meaning of something that is not meant to be understood...at least by the likes of the average human...

that sounds very "christian"

the idea of a "soul" is human construction to provide more meaning to our otherwise meaningless existence.

odd since im an atheist....i soul is not a human invention like god. The soul doesn't add meaning it is meaning. Like fruit from a tree life is merely there so that more souls may grow. The souls are strengthened by existence and return to the source to repeat the process over and over again. What the source is and its purpose is of no concern to ppl who should just live theres lives the best way they think possible....

You sure your atheist? Idk you seem more agnostic then atheist.... =] nvm me its almost 7 am..... imma be late...

Yup, he doesn't have a clue.

XemnasXD · Post by **XemnasXD** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 3:33 pm

Test007 wrote:
Hershey wrote:
XemnasXD wrote:
sirdingydang wrote:
XemnasXD wrote:
Niton wrote:Soul is an entity of the human body, it connects your body function to work. Without soul, there would be no brain function, it reflects on human consciousness, you might be living today, what if you didn't exist? Soul makes you here, and under the universal balance, gravity applied souls weight.

There is this experiment where people measure the weight of a person, the weight of the person before he died is larger than the weight after the person died. There is a loss of mass. If Einsteins states that mass can be converted into mass and vice versa, than the weight that is loss could be energy that is kept within. Should soul be consider a type of energy that triggers our consciousness? The greatest scientist can explain that, that is God.

Bleach wrote:We stand in awe before that which cannot be seen and we respect with every fiber of that which cannot be explained.

To much science can clutter the true meaning of something that is not meant to be understood...at least by the likes of the average human...

that sounds very "christian"

the idea of a "soul" is human construction to provide more meaning to our otherwise meaningless existence.

odd since im an atheist....i soul is not a human invention like god. The soul doesn't add meaning it is meaning. Like fruit from a tree life is merely there so that more souls may grow. The souls are strengthened by existence and return to the source to repeat the process over and over again. What the source is and its purpose is of no concern to ppl who should just live theres lives the best way they think possible....

You sure your atheist? Idk you seem more agnostic then atheist.... =] nvm me its almost 7 am..... imma be late...

Yup, he doesn't have a clue.

Atheist believe there is no god. I believe there is no god. But everything that has a beginning must have an ending and everything must come from something so the logical theory is that there is a an oversoul, all-soul a pool, place, collective where all things begin and end...whether it has conscience or not i don't know

JacksColon · Post by **JacksColon** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 3:40 pm

XemnasXD wrote:
Test007 wrote:
Hershey wrote:
XemnasXD wrote:
sirdingydang wrote:
XemnasXD wrote:
Niton wrote:Soul is an entity of the human body, it connects your body function to work. Without soul, there would be no brain function, it reflects on human consciousness, you might be living today, what if you didn't exist? Soul makes you here, and under the universal balance, gravity applied souls weight.

There is this experiment where people measure the weight of a person, the weight of the person before he died is larger than the weight after the person died. There is a loss of mass. If Einsteins states that mass can be converted into mass and vice versa, than the weight that is loss could be energy that is kept within. Should soul be consider a type of energy that triggers our consciousness? The greatest scientist can explain that, that is God.

Bleach wrote:We stand in awe before that which cannot be seen and we respect with every fiber of that which cannot be explained.

To much science can clutter the true meaning of something that is not meant to be understood...at least by the likes of the average human...

that sounds very "christian"

the idea of a "soul" is human construction to provide more meaning to our otherwise meaningless existence.

odd since im an atheist....i soul is not a human invention like god. The soul doesn't add meaning it is meaning. Like fruit from a tree life is merely there so that more souls may grow. The souls are strengthened by existence and return to the source to repeat the process over and over again. What the source is and its purpose is of no concern to ppl who should just live theres lives the best way they think possible....

You sure your atheist? Idk you seem more agnostic then atheist.... =] nvm me its almost 7 am..... imma be late...

Yup, he doesn't have a clue.

Atheist believe there is no god. I believe there is no god. But everything that has a beginning must have an ending and everything must come from something so the logical theory is that there is a an oversoul, all-soul a pool, place, collective where all things begin and end...whether it has conscience or not i don't know

The logic that there is an "oversoul" or all that other mumbo jumbo you speak of sounds very much like the "intelligent design" theory garbage I've been hearing lately. I'm not gonna argue with your beliefs, because they're your's, I'm just saying, it sounds very supersticious and magical, something atheists really don't believe in, whether it be a god or a "soul"...plus, I don't believe in god or a soul, they're BOTH human creations to give more meaning to a life the truly is meaningless, no matter how scary that is.

XemnasXD · Post by **XemnasXD** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 3:57 pm

sirdingydang wrote:
XemnasXD wrote:
Test007 wrote:
Hershey wrote:
XemnasXD wrote:
sirdingydang wrote:
XemnasXD wrote:
Niton wrote:Soul is an entity of the human body, it connects your body function to work. Without soul, there would be no brain function, it reflects on human consciousness, you might be living today, what if you didn't exist? Soul makes you here, and under the universal balance, gravity applied souls weight.

There is this experiment where people measure the weight of a person, the weight of the person before he died is larger than the weight after the person died. There is a loss of mass. If Einsteins states that mass can be converted into mass and vice versa, than the weight that is loss could be energy that is kept within. Should soul be consider a type of energy that triggers our consciousness? The greatest scientist can explain that, that is God.

Bleach wrote:We stand in awe before that which cannot be seen and we respect with every fiber of that which cannot be explained.

To much science can clutter the true meaning of something that is not meant to be understood...at least by the likes of the average human...

that sounds very "christian"

the idea of a "soul" is human construction to provide more meaning to our otherwise meaningless existence.

odd since im an atheist....i soul is not a human invention like god. The soul doesn't add meaning it is meaning. Like fruit from a tree life is merely there so that more souls may grow. The souls are strengthened by existence and return to the source to repeat the process over and over again. What the source is and its purpose is of no concern to ppl who should just live theres lives the best way they think possible....

You sure your atheist? Idk you seem more agnostic then atheist.... =] nvm me its almost 7 am..... imma be late...

Yup, he doesn't have a clue.

Atheist believe there is no god. I believe there is no god. But everything that has a beginning must have an ending and everything must come from something so the logical theory is that there is a an oversoul, all-soul a pool, place, collective where all things begin and end...whether it has conscience or not i don't know

The logic that there is an "oversoul" or all that other mumbo jumbo you speak of sounds very much like the "intelligent design" theory garbage I've been hearing lately. I'm not gonna argue with your beliefs, because they're your's, I'm just saying, it sounds very supersticious and magical, something atheists really don't believe in, whether it be a god or a "soul"...plus, I don't believe in god or a soul, they're BOTH human creations to give more meaning to a life the truly is meaningless, no matter how scary that is.

The only meaning life has is what you give it. Im getting a bit offensive now because its sounds like your patronizing me and if you say your not going to argue with my beliefs then you shouldn't slam them as superstitious. Im an atheist Buddhist so yes i don't believe in God or gods but no im not some angsty teenager who thinks "All life is meaningless" I've never met someone who truly believed that if thats the case why not just kill yourself right now since it doesn't matter. You should read up more about atheism and other beliefs b4 you try to label it as "Intelligent design" theres a difference between a universal over-soul and an unnamed god/deity.

Scary is not that life is meaningless. That would be a big weight off everyones shoulders and i'd probably off myself right now. A scarier thought is that life does have a meaning and a purpose and that you will have to answer for everything you've done in it. Thats a bit more scary than returning to nothingness....

kate4231 · Post by **kate4231** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 4:03 pm

"QUOTED FROM WIKIANSWERS"

Souls are in many religious and mystical beliefs, one's spiritual essence that remains after death. In many religious beliefs, the soul is judged and placed in punishment or paradise accordingly. In mysticism and magical beliefs, souls are used to generate and carry out magical energy.

Thats wat i also believe

JacksColon · Post by **JacksColon** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 4:07 pm

XemnasXD wrote:
sirdingydang wrote:
XemnasXD wrote:
Test007 wrote:
Hershey wrote:
XemnasXD wrote:
sirdingydang wrote:
XemnasXD wrote:
Niton wrote:Soul is an entity of the human body, it connects your body function to work. Without soul, there would be no brain function, it reflects on human consciousness, you might be living today, what if you didn't exist? Soul makes you here, and under the universal balance, gravity applied souls weight.

There is this experiment where people measure the weight of a person, the weight of the person before he died is larger than the weight after the person died. There is a loss of mass. If Einsteins states that mass can be converted into mass and vice versa, than the weight that is loss could be energy that is kept within. Should soul be consider a type of energy that triggers our consciousness? The greatest scientist can explain that, that is God.

Bleach wrote:We stand in awe before that which cannot be seen and we respect with every fiber of that which cannot be explained.

To much science can clutter the true meaning of something that is not meant to be understood...at least by the likes of the average human...

that sounds very "christian"

the idea of a "soul" is human construction to provide more meaning to our otherwise meaningless existence.

odd since im an atheist....i soul is not a human invention like god. The soul doesn't add meaning it is meaning. Like fruit from a tree life is merely there so that more souls may grow. The souls are strengthened by existence and return to the source to repeat the process over and over again. What the source is and its purpose is of no concern to ppl who should just live theres lives the best way they think possible....

You sure your atheist? Idk you seem more agnostic then atheist.... =] nvm me its almost 7 am..... imma be late...

Yup, he doesn't have a clue.

Atheist believe there is no god. I believe there is no god. But everything that has a beginning must have an ending and everything must come from something so the logical theory is that there is a an oversoul, all-soul a pool, place, collective where all things begin and end...whether it has conscience or not i don't know

The logic that there is an "oversoul" or all that other mumbo jumbo you speak of sounds very much like the "intelligent design" theory garbage I've been hearing lately. I'm not gonna argue with your beliefs, because they're your's, I'm just saying, it sounds very supersticious and magical, something atheists really don't believe in, whether it be a god or a "soul"...plus, I don't believe in god or a soul, they're BOTH human creations to give more meaning to a life the truly is meaningless, no matter how scary that is.

The only meaning life has is what you give it. Im getting a bit offensive now because its sounds like your patronizing me and if you say your not going to argue with my beliefs then you shouldn't slam them as superstitious. Im an atheist Buddhist so yes i don't believe in God or gods but no im not some angsty teenager who thinks "All life is meaningless" I've never met someone who truly believed that if thats the case why not just kill yourself right now since it doesn't matter. You should read up more about atheism and other beliefs b4 you try to label it as "Intelligent design" theres a difference between a universal over-soul and an unnamed god/deity.

Scary is not that life is meaningless. That would be a big weight off everyones shoulders and i'd probably off myself right now. A scarier thought is that life does have a meaning and a purpose and that you will have to answer for everything you've done in it. Thats a bit more scary than returning to nothingness....

Life not having meaning was meant to be in the grander scheme of things. Perhaps I should have used "insignificant" because humans are insignificant, just as insignificant as anything else. I believe that when we die, we decompose and become part of the soil and are used as food for other organisms. Do I believe that there is some part of us that continues? Call it a soul, as that seems to be what most are suggesting...no, I don't believe that. I, personally, believe that to be ridiculous. You can take offense to that, but that's your problem. I'm not on here to cause you to be upset, I'm merely stating my beliefs. My belief is that religion and superstitious beliefs are ridiculous and infantile.

And, don't patronize me by insinuating that I'm a hopeless, suicidal teenager. If you'd read any other posts I've made, you'd clearly realize that's completely laughable.

People that get upset by other's views of their own beliefs are obviously not secure within those beliefs. So, settle down. If you can't take my opinions, that's your problem.

JacksColon · Post by **JacksColon** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 4:23 pm

Every existing thing is born without reason, prolongs itself out of weakness, and dies by chance.
~Jean-Paul Sartre

XemnasXD · Post by **XemnasXD** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 4:28 pm

sirdingydang wrote:
XemnasXD wrote:
sirdingydang wrote:
XemnasXD wrote:
Test007 wrote:
Hershey wrote:
XemnasXD wrote:
sirdingydang wrote:
XemnasXD wrote:
Niton wrote:Soul is an entity of the human body, it connects your body function to work. Without soul, there would be no brain function, it reflects on human consciousness, you might be living today, what if you didn't exist? Soul makes you here, and under the universal balance, gravity applied souls weight.

There is this experiment where people measure the weight of a person, the weight of the person before he died is larger than the weight after the person died. There is a loss of mass. If Einsteins states that mass can be converted into mass and vice versa, than the weight that is loss could be energy that is kept within. Should soul be consider a type of energy that triggers our consciousness? The greatest scientist can explain that, that is God.

Bleach wrote:We stand in awe before that which cannot be seen and we respect with every fiber of that which cannot be explained.

To much science can clutter the true meaning of something that is not meant to be understood...at least by the likes of the average human...

that sounds very "christian"

the idea of a "soul" is human construction to provide more meaning to our otherwise meaningless existence.

odd since im an atheist....i soul is not a human invention like god. The soul doesn't add meaning it is meaning. Like fruit from a tree life is merely there so that more souls may grow. The souls are strengthened by existence and return to the source to repeat the process over and over again. What the source is and its purpose is of no concern to ppl who should just live theres lives the best way they think possible....

You sure your atheist? Idk you seem more agnostic then atheist.... =] nvm me its almost 7 am..... imma be late...

Yup, he doesn't have a clue.

Atheist believe there is no god. I believe there is no god. But everything that has a beginning must have an ending and everything must come from something so the logical theory is that there is a an oversoul, all-soul a pool, place, collective where all things begin and end...whether it has conscience or not i don't know

The logic that there is an "oversoul" or all that other mumbo jumbo you speak of sounds very much like the "intelligent design" theory garbage I've been hearing lately. I'm not gonna argue with your beliefs, because they're your's, I'm just saying, it sounds very supersticious and magical, something atheists really don't believe in, whether it be a god or a "soul"...plus, I don't believe in god or a soul, they're BOTH human creations to give more meaning to a life the truly is meaningless, no matter how scary that is.

The only meaning life has is what you give it. Im getting a bit offensive now because its sounds like your patronizing me and if you say your not going to argue with my beliefs then you shouldn't slam them as superstitious. Im an atheist Buddhist so yes i don't believe in God or gods but no im not some angsty teenager who thinks "All life is meaningless" I've never met someone who truly believed that if thats the case why not just kill yourself right now since it doesn't matter. You should read up more about atheism and other beliefs b4 you try to label it as "Intelligent design" theres a difference between a universal over-soul and an unnamed god/deity.

Scary is not that life is meaningless. That would be a big weight off everyones shoulders and i'd probably off myself right now. A scarier thought is that life does have a meaning and a purpose and that you will have to answer for everything you've done in it. Thats a bit more scary than returning to nothingness....

Life not having meaning was meant to be in the grander scheme of things. Perhaps I should have used "insignificant" because humans are insignificant, just as insignificant as anything else. I believe that when we die, we decompose and become part of the soil and are used as food for other organisms. Do I believe that there is some part of us that continues? Call it a soul, as that seems to be what most are suggesting...no, I don't believe that. I, personally, believe that to be ridiculous. You can take offense to that, but that's your problem. I'm not on here to cause you to be upset, I'm merely stating my beliefs. My belief is that religion and superstitious beliefs are ridiculous and infantile.

And, don't patronize me by insinuating that I'm a hopeless, suicidal teenager. If you'd read any other posts I've made, you'd clearly realize that's completely laughable.

People that get upset by other's views of their own beliefs are obviously not secure within those beliefs. So, settle down. If you can't take my opinions, that's your problem.

How can you not believe in anything outside yourself if you believe in a grand scheme of things. Whose grand scheme. What grand scheme. The purpose of the grand scheme. If all life was insignificant but thats all part of the grand scheme then what is the point of life. It would mean that the entire universes only purpose is to serve no purpose and since you only believe in the here and now then the "Universe without a purpose" could end and there would be nothing left. Since that nothing left is all there is then the Grand Scheme of all things is to end with nothing left completely nullifying the need for anything to have existed at all. And since unless you believe in god, creation didn't just HAPPEN! it would mean that some events were set in motion to create existence so that it could end.

If you follow that and im pretty sure it stacks up to your beliefs then all life sounds extremely pointless. Not just insignificant because in order for something to be insignificant it require something significant to compare it to and if your comparing it to the Grand Scheme of things whose purpose i just previously stated was to end, then what could be more insignificant than existing just to end....

Correct me if im wrong here im not playing devils advocate im trying to comprehend your point of view and i've run the scenario over and over in my head and it keeps coming to this conclusion....so....if you don't mind fix it for me....

JacksColon · Post by **JacksColon** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 4:40 pm

Ok, first, we disagree on premise. You speak in terms of "purpose" and "whose purpose". Which I believe are false pretenses to start from. Yes, I do believe that IF the universe were to just come to and end, it wouldn't really matter. Why? Because, why would it matter if we are all dead. Supposing the universe ended tomorrow, you and I would both die. In MY view, it doesn't matter because I'm not here to experience whatever aftermath there were, although my view is also that there probably woulnd't be any "Aftermath" because that which comes from nothing can end in nothing.

Also "Grand Scheme" is a figure of speech....ok, by that I mean, in the context of the entire universe. Think of it this way. Think of how many grains of sand there are on ALL of the beaches of the world. Well, in my view, the human species makes up just one grain of those. All of the others are other things within the universe which we are a part of (although that would still make up a small fraction if we're talking true scale here). Take us out, just like you could remove a grain of sand, and nothing happens..no great catastrophy...nothing. Thus, we are insignificant, just as that one grain of sand is insignificant.