Presidential Candidates

JacksColon · Post by **JacksColon** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 8:00 pm

Which one do you like? Why?

Which ones do you dislike? Why?

What are your feelings on the 2-party system?

What are your feelings on the electoral college?

okay....GO!

Vindicator · Post by **Vindicator** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 8:17 pm

I dislike Hillary Clinton because her only intrest is appealing to the masses, not doing anything. Her stance on every issue is the most popular with the general public, she makes sure of it. Once support for the war went sour, so did her support. She will never think for herself, she just goes with the people to LOOK good. The day Hillary Clinton gives a straight forward decisive view point OF HER OWN, is the day she can be considered somewhat respectable.

*Hint* shes not yet...

I'm not sure who i do lik,e because to be honest, presidential candidates are the most crooked, ill-intended people to run the country.

The 2-party system blows. It is unfortunate America was so stupid as to invent such a system. George Washington warned us, but we just couldn't listen. Political parties destroyed this country. Government is no longer what is in the intrest of the pople, but what is in the interest of your party for a lot of cases.

The ellectoral college is the most bogus thing i have ever heard of. A republicans vote in NY means nothing, a Democrats vote in Texas means NOTHING. There are other states just the same. Basically, it is a 99.9% chance that democrats win New York, and 99.9% republicans win Texas. And because of that, all the votes related proportionally to the states population go to that candidate. The electoral college is also total bullshit because the electorate representatives have NO LEGAL BINDING to vote for who they say they will. Democrats can win NY, but some of the electorate representatives can very easily vote for the republican representative. Bullshit at its finest.

LittleTom · Post by **LittleTom** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 8:31 pm

Ron Paul.
Because he supports lowering taxes, homeschool, low spending, free market healthcare, and lots of other great stuff that I don't have the time to type atm. I think he could do some great stuff for our country.

[sarcasm]
oh noes, I'm not a liberal socialist. I must be a fat rich sexist racist son of a bitch who abuses the working class [/sarcasm]

I'll get back to the other questions when I have the time.

I like to describe myself as a libertarian( not liberal, libertarian. wikipedia it) with morals.

JacksColon · Post by **JacksColon** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 8:41 pm

I know what a libertarian is. I like Ron Paul, but only because he mocks the other republican candidates so much. I'm not a fan of free-market healthcare. I also don't like his stance on abortion.

Mike Gravel 2008!

http://www.gravel2008.us/

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=gravel2008

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npbftGodGGI (my favorite)

Swindler · Post by **Swindler** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 8:54 pm

Hejsan ftw

JacksColon · Post by **JacksColon** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 8:59 pm

http://break.com/index/hillary-farts-during-debate.html

Post by **dom** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 10:02 pm

I loled at the democratic debate when they were talking about environment and someone asked how many of them took a private plane - the real two faced lying hillary showed.

lolerful: http://youtube.com/watch?v=MB767W3w594

Barotix · Post by **Barotix** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 10:17 pm

any1 listen to NPR yesterday? [i'll be back with answers]

avanti42 · Post by **avanti42** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 10:27 pm

I dont really like any of the Republican candidates but if i had to choose id choose Mitt, because hes the only candidate who's going to (or says he is going to) do anything about illegal immigrants which in my mind is the real issue.

XemnasXD · Post by **XemnasXD** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 10:33 pm

Im not voting dem or rep this year

electoral college sucks but then again i'd be one of those ppl who would've voted for Stephen Colbert so maybe theres something to it...nah its gay...

redneck · Post by **redneck** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 10:37 pm

dom wrote:I loled at the democratic debate when they were talking about environment and someone asked how many of them took a private plane - the real two faced lying hillary showed.

lolerful: http://youtube.com/watch?v=MB767W3w594

The Dumbass bitch....Who in the right mind will vote for HILLARY, I LOVE YOU HILLARY! She is such hypocrite and shes just trying to win this election to prove something. Drivers licenses to illegal Immingrants??!?! Hmmm how easy would it be for a terrorist to use that privilege to his own advantage? Its obvious she's just trying to gain voters...

If you have a license isn't it possible for you to register to vote??

As for the candidates that I like....none of them...I think Arnie should be allowed to run for the Big Seat...Although....Ron Paul seems to have more sense then the other candidates.

Zypher · Post by **Zypher** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 10:41 pm

i lold when watching the Rep debate when one of the guys said he would volunteer Hilary for the first to mars.

Nuklear · Post by **Nuklear** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 10:41 pm

Woot LittleTom!

I like Ron Paul for his stance that we should strictly abide by the constitution. The fed govt should have little involvement with our lives as possible. He wants to change foreign policy. That'll help us stay out of countries militarily, which provokes radicals/hell maybe all, makes a better defense at home, and cuts costs. He's fiscally responsible. Wants to abolish the fed reserve, make us gold backed again, and get rid of most govt programs. With all that said he's a small govt libertarian that I love.

He's no nonsense, and has a solid voting record.

If anyone has questions about him they can ask me, click on my sig, or just google.

Crumpets · Post by **Crumpets** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 10:46 pm

Nuklear wrote:Woot LittleTom!

I like Ron Paul for his stance that we should strictly abide by the constitution. The fed govt should have little involvement with our lives as possible. He wants to change foreign policy. That'll help us stay out of countries militarily, which provokes radicals/hell maybe all, makes a better defense at home, and cuts costs. He's fiscally responsible. Wants to abolish the fed reserve, make us gold backed again, and get rid of most govt programs. With all that said he's a small govt libertarian that I love.

He's no nonsense, and has a solid voting record.

If anyone has questions about him they can ask me, click on my sig, or just google.

Ron Paul for pres tbh.

Worst .. Hillary srsly. 2-Faced backstabbing cunt. Need I say more.

Zypher · Post by **Zypher** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 10:54 pm

i also feel Ron is one and/or only genuine candidate up there.

idk, just my opinion tho

Nuklear · Post by **Nuklear** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 10:59 pm

Zypher wrote:i also feel Ron is one and/or only genuine candidate up there.

idk, just my opinion tho

Not just your opinion.

High five Crumpets! Now just come to America and vote. lulz

To avanti: What is Mitt's plan? As far as I know all the rep candidates basically have the same idea of no benefits to 'illegals' but some go farther with fences and the like.

XuChu · Post by **XuChu** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 1:04 am

The constitution did everyone a favour that Bush can't be elected

Reise · Post by **Reise** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 1:14 am

Flying Spaghetti Monster '08

Jstar1 · Post by **Jstar1** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 1:23 am

half the stuff the candidates promise never happen

XemnasXD · Post by **XemnasXD** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 1:25 am

hmmm I read up on ron paul and he sounds ok...like a different kind of republican but still extremely conservative and in love with states rights...2 things i don't like....But he does have a game plan unlike the democratic candidates....

Silver0 · Post by **Silver0** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 1:38 am

Clinton National Health care ftw

Post by **dom** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 2:13 am

Silver0 wrote:Clinton National Health care ftw

LOL!

Manowar · Post by **Manowar** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 2:27 am

Without a doubt my vote is going to Ron Paul. I remember back in April/May one of my friends was talking about him so I decided to look him up and watched some of the republican debate videos and I must say i was impressed since he's a candidate that doesn't say the same rhetoric that everyone else says.

Nuklear · Post by **Nuklear** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 2:50 am

*tear* So many smart people.

I'd like to hear Reise's choice and who dom would vote for even if he can't vote.

Redskin350 · Post by **Redskin350** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 3:14 am

barack obama 08

http://youtube.com/watch?v=PW7EbURS2h4

Reise · Post by **Reise** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 3:50 am

At this point if I really gave a crap I would go thru and check out each candidate's plans and make a decision. But I've only really seen things from Obama, and he seems like the most intelligent out of the group. So right now I'm leaning toward Obama because I think he's got some good ideas and a smart head on his shoulders.

andrejat · Post by **andrejat** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 4:26 am

Ron Paul means good, but he is insane. In a good way.

But anyone notice that one debate, where he spoke, and the other candidates all looked away and sort of coughed/giggled?

I don't care, I cant vote till 2012.

Nuklear · Post by **Nuklear** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 4:38 am

andrejat wrote:Ron Paul means good, but he is insane. In a good way.

Do you mean his goals sound too ambitious?

Foilin · Post by **Foilin** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 4:53 am

LOL @ That Video dom, freaking awesome i will never vote for her. TBH a woman shouldn't be president. This is the first year i will be able to vote and i've been looking into candidates and it seems like Ron Paul means the best... but i dunno ill keep reading, chances are ill vote Republican. They seem to follow the values i like.

Cruor · Post by **Cruor** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 5:42 am

Not old enough to vote, but if I was it would go to Dennis Kucinich.

Agreed with him on most issues. He seems honest and genuine, and says what he means outright instead of pussyfooting around for his campaign's sake. It's unfortunate that he gets almost no airtime.