Scripts and Silkroad?

William-CL · Post by **William-CL** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 9:12 pm

Ok so heres my dilema. I have been learning about autoit and like to mess around with it, but i also like to stall on silkroad, And i my friend was telling me that some bots are run on scripts. So my question is, will i get banned if i am stalling ingame and am meesing around with auto it at the same time? My friend says that the script has to be interfering with the client to get banned, but i really need a profesional opinion on it.(only have one computer so pls don't suggest using 2).

firefox6 · Post by **firefox6** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 9:14 pm

Blackdragon6 wrote:Ok so heres my dilema. I have been learning about autoit and like to mess around with it, but i also like to stall on silkroad, And i my friend was telling me that some bots are run on scripts. So my question is, will i get banned if i am stalling ingame and am meesing around with auto it at the same time? My friend says that the script has to be interfering with the client to get banned, but i really need a profesional opinion on it.(only have one computer so pls don't suggest using 2).

you will not get banned.. they have no way of telling that your using anything on your computer.

William-CL · Post by **William-CL** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 10:11 pm

Blackdragon6 wrote:Ok so heres my dilema. I have been learning about autoit and like to mess around with it, but i also like to stall on silkroad, And i my friend was telling me that some bots are run on scripts. So my question is, will i get banned if i am stalling ingame and am meesing around with auto it at the same time? My friend says that the script has to be interfering with the client to get banned, but i really need a profesional opinion on it.(only have one computer so pls don't suggest using 2).

That's probably why they don't ban bots

Corvix · Post by **Corvix** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 10:13 pm

They can't detect the usage. As far as I know, the GameGuard engine is what detects 3rd-party applications. As we all know, the SRO_Client.exe does not actually contain any game-guard engine software, it's just pretends it does.

I am not 100% sure, but chances are, they won't know a thing. They are too busy making money and not working on the actual gameplay at the moment anyway.

fant1k · Post by **fant1k** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 10:30 pm

They can't detect the usage. As far as I know, the GameGuard engine is what detects 3rd-party applications. As we all know, the SRO_Client.exe does not actually contain any game-guard engine software, it's just pretends it does.

I am not 100% sure, but chances are, they won't know a thing. They are too busy making money and not working on the actual gameplay at the moment anyway.

they are really able to detect bots. Look at the older ban lists. Do u really think JM would waste so much time to ban thousands of bots by hand?

William-CL · Post by **William-CL** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 10:32 pm

That just made me think of something. Some players that dont bot could just use this in autoit? And just click on mobs? To just spam skills hoteys. Would that make them a botter?

Code: Select all

while 1
fight()
WEnd

func fight()
sleep (100)
send("1")
sleep (100)
send("2")
sleep (100)
send("3")

endfunc

Corvix · Post by **Corvix** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 10:32 pm

fant1k wrote:they are really able to detect bots. Look at the older ban lists. Do u really think JM would waste so much time to ban thousands of bots?

Yes, but they look at those results based around the character activity in a specific time span, not based around the applications used on a player's computer while SRO_Client.exe is in the memory.

/Pi · Post by **/Pi** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 10:34 pm

Done it before using AutoHotKey to buy and break second degree blades for elements (and sometimes to insult nublets). Haven't been banned yet.

William-CL · Post by **William-CL** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 10:35 pm

Prophet Izaach wrote:Done it before using AutoHotKey to buy and break second degree blades for elements (and sometimes to insult nublets). Haven't been banned yet.

Thats because it not technichally botting and you still playing the game, just a lazier way.

/Pi · Post by **/Pi** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 10:37 pm

Blackdragon6 wrote:
Prophet Izaach wrote:Done it before using AutoHotKey to buy and break second degree blades for elements (and sometimes to insult nublets). Haven't been banned yet.
Thats because it not technichally botting and you still playing the game, just a lazier way.

It can still count at botting at certain terms. Using autohotkeys usually blurs the line between doing stuffs legitly or not. It's a gray area. :S

fant1k · Post by **fant1k** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 10:38 pm

Yes, but they look at those results based around the character activity in a specific time span, not based around the applications used on a player's computer while SRO_Client.exe is in the memory.

wouldnt that cause ban of legits?

NuclearSilo · Post by **NuclearSilo** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 10:39 pm

Autoit is my favorite.

No u wont be banned. GG nowaday is disabled. There is only the popup thingy just to fool u.

William-CL · Post by **William-CL** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 10:39 pm

Prophet Izaach wrote:
Blackdragon6 wrote:
Prophet Izaach wrote:Done it before using AutoHotKey to buy and break second degree blades for elements (and sometimes to insult nublets). Haven't been banned yet.
Thats because it not technichally botting and you still playing the game, just a lazier way.

It can still count at botting at certain terms. Using autohotkeys usually blurs the line between doing stuffs legitly or not. It's a gray area. :S

But they won't detect anything unlees you try using script to include and interfere with the client, which is for retards. I don't think auto hotkeys is botting, but a very thin line. Can't be banned for it i don't think.

William-CL · Post by **William-CL** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 10:41 pm

NuclearSilo wrote:Autoit is my favorite.
No u wont be banned. GG nowaday is disabled. There is only the popup thingy just to fool u.

Game guard wouldn't work on it if it's just spamming 1, 2, 3. Cause it even spams em when your not in game. on like a notepad it would still spam them. Simply because it is not interfering with the game in any way, but pressing 1, 2 ,3 alot.

/Pi · Post by **/Pi** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 10:43 pm

Blackdragon6 wrote:But they won't detect anything unlees you try using script to include and interfere with the client, which is for retards. I don't think auto hotkeys is botting, but a very thin line. Can't be banned for it i don't think.

Same here. So long as we keep it just for doing lazy work like breaking items and elements or maybe even spamming towns with your stalled items. Try not to do the latter though... @_@

Corvix · Post by **Corvix** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 10:44 pm

fant1k wrote:wouldnt that cause ban of legits?

No, because a legit person wouldn't remain moving their character for 168 hours a week. Sure, players can stay logged on and be fine. But if their character is killing monsters for 168 hours non-stop, Joymax can detect it and will ban you.

fant1k · Post by **fant1k** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 10:47 pm

No, because a legit person wouldn't remain moving their character for 168 hours a week. Sure, players can stay logged on and be fine. But if their character is killing monsters for 168 hours non-stop, Joymax can detect it and will ban you.

there are quite some ppl who share accounts and grind 24/7

Corvix · Post by **Corvix** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 10:51 pm

Hence the reason a lot of innocent people get banned, and a lot of complaints are made.

Fat_Smurf · Post by **Fat_Smurf** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 10:53 pm

well I use it sometime in sro, but it's not that useful, well when I got a pt giant to take down I can set my 1-2-3 script and relax my fingers lol. I was using it alot in guildwars as a spambot lol or for hero sync spike

but it sro, spamming in town is useless now and there is not alot of advantage to macro.

JewishZombie · Post by **JewishZombie** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 10:54 pm

I can guaruntee you will not get banned. I've been using auto it to auto heal my wolf and form parties for me...it's buggy the forming party one because if you're moving the mouse...it get's weird. I didn't write these myself, they are from farhad, but I use them.

You can also use autoit to help with dual wielding so you can change your weapons much more quickly. Furthermore, you can add conveniences such as autobuff (I use tilde; after I press "~", autohit sends "f3, 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,f2,0,f2,9,f3,8). This puts on all my buffs and even the ones that requires me to change to bow.

This isn't a blurring of the line between botting and not. One you can leave alone for hours (or even days) at a time, the other...if you leave alone for a few minutes...you die (or at least don't gain any experience). Furthermore, autobuffing just save 30 seconds of my life (or to be more precies 44 seconds, 5 seconds per regular buffs, 3 seconds to activate bird, 1 second for grasswalk).

But, if you truly believe that auto-healing your wolf (when you have autopots for yourself) is botting, then please stop using autopots and auto-pill-ing.

Meh, it's saved me a few mills on wolf rezzes. =P

edit: these exact scripts can be found on the sm site.

edit2: all for (1024x768 Desktop size)

-------Wolf healing scripts-------------
Wolf Healing Script

MsgBox ( 0, "BiXiao Wolf HP Assistant", "Copyright by BiXiao - Venice")
$HP=inputbox("BiXiao Wolf HP Assistant","Wolf HP Start Recovery: 25%, 50% or 75%","75")
$taste=inputbox("BiXiao Wolf HP Assistant","Wolf Recovery Register-Slot: 1, 2, 3...0","0")
$vgroup=inputbox("BiXiao Wolf HP Assistant","Wolf Recovery Register-Group: F1-F4","{F4}")
$bgroup=inputbox("BiXiao Wolf HP Assistant","Switch back after Wolf Recovery to Register-Group: F1-F4","{F1}")
$msg = 0
$i = 1
While $i =1
Global $Paused
HotKeySet("{PAUSE}", "Pause")

If WinActive("SRO_Client") and PixelGetColor(126,87) = 526344 and $HP = 25 then
Send($vgroup)
Send($taste)
Sleep(100)
Send($bgroup)
endif

If WinActive("SRO_Client") and PixelGetColor(154,87) = 526344 and $HP = 50 then
Send($vgroup)
Send($taste)
Sleep(100)
Send($bgroup)
endif

If WinActive("SRO_Client") and PixelGetColor(183,87) = 526344 and $HP = 75 then
Send($vgroup)
Send($taste)
Sleep(100)
Send($bgroup)
endif

WEnd
Func Pause()
$Paused = NOT $Paused
While $Paused
Sleep (400)
WEnd
EndFunc ; => Pause()
--------------------------

-------------------------Party formation-----------
MsgBox ( 0, "Party Script", "Start Script")

#include <GuiConstants.au3>
Opt("GUIOnEventMode", 1)

Dim $PT
Dim $PTC=600 ; time between paty checking (10 = 1 sec)
Dim $res
Dim $p=0

GuiCreate("BixParty", 150,100)
GUISetOnEvent($GUI_EVENT_CLOSE, 'CLOSEButton')
GuiCtrlCreateLabel("resolution"&@CR&"1 = 1024x768"&@CR&"2 = 1280x1024",5,5,80, 50)
$resW=GUICtrlCreateInput($res,90, 10, 50, 20,$ES_NUMBER)
GUICtrlSetLimit($resW,1)
$Start = GUICtrlCreateButton("Start", 40, 60, 60, 25,$BS_FLAT)
GUICtrlSetOnEvent($Start, "StartButton")

GUISetState()

While 1
Sleep(100)
if winactive("SRO_Client") then
$PT= $PT+1
ToolTip($PT,300,300)
if $res=1 Then
PatyChk()
EndIf
If $res=2 Then
PatyChk2()
EndIf
AcptPty()
endif
WEnd

Func StartButton()

$res = GUICtrlRead($resW)
GUICtrlSetData($Start,"Stop")

GUICtrlSetData($Start,"Start")

EndFunc

Func PatyChk()

if $PT >= $PTC then
$PT = 0
if (PixelGetColor(10,240) <> 0) and (PixelGetColor(11,300) <> 0) then
if (PixelGetColor(473,160)= 16777215) and (PixelGetColor(208,280) = 16777215 ) then
send("e")
Sleep(200)
EndIf
$p=0
send("e")
Sleep(500)
while (PixelGetColor(250,302) = 0) and $p<50
Sleep(50)
$p=$p+1
wend
$p=0
if (PixelGetColor(250,302) = 16777215) then
MouseClick("left",610,590,1,0)
Sleep(500)
MouseClick("left",460,540,1,0)
Endif
send("e")
Endif
Endif

Endfunc

Func PatyChk2()

if $PT >= $PTC then
$PT = 0
if (PixelGetColor(12,244) <> 0) and (PixelGetColor(10,300) <> 0) then
if (PixelGetColor(601,290)= 16777215) and (PixelGetColor(336,402) = 16777215 ) then
send("e")
Sleep(200)
EndIf
$p=0
send("e")
Sleep(500)

while (PixelGetColor(378,430) = 0) and $p<50
Sleep(50)
$p=$p+1
wend
$p=0
if (PixelGetColor(378,430) = 16777215) then
MouseClick("left",745,720,1,0)
Sleep(500)
MouseClick("left",594,668,1,0)
Endif
send("e")
Endif
Endif

Endfunc

Func AcptPty()
if PixelGetColor(10,300)<>0 Then
if $res = 1 Then
if (PixelGetColor(468,243) = 16777215) and (PixelGetColor(614,385) = 16777215) and (PixelGetColor(611,385) = 0) and (PixelGetColor(364,355) = 16777215) then
MouseClick("left",470,500,1,0)
Sleep(200)
Endif
EndIf

If $res = 2 Then
if (PixelGetColor(599,375) = 16777215) and (PixelGetColor(675,510) = 16777215) and (PixelGetColor(720,490) = 0) and (PixelGetColor(492,485) = 16777215) then
MouseClick("left",600,630,1,0)
Sleep(200)
Endif
EndIf
EndIf
Endfunc

Func CLOSEButton()

exit
EndFunc

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firefox6 · Post by **firefox6** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 10:58 pm

i want the blade brake down script..

/Pi · Post by **/Pi** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 11:09 pm

JewishZombie wrote:This isn't a blurring of the line between botting and not. One you can leave alone for hours (or even days) at a time, the other...if you leave alone for a few minutes...you die (or at least don't gain any experience).

If you based the difference on time, it wouldn't solve the distinction because you'll have to set a precise line that classifies acts on one side to be botting and acts on the other side to be legitimate. To be honest, this line, whatever the argument is, would turn out to be arbitrary.

On a second point, I don't think botting should not be based consequentially. It doesn't matter if a person doesn't gain any XP or gain a tremendous amount. So long as he/she is using a bot, it would still be botting.

Anyway, let's leave the botting conversation aside as this board is already suffering from numerous ones.

JewishZombie wrote:-------Wolf healing scripts-------------
-------------------------Party formation-----------

Those are sweet. Haven't tried Auto it. Is it better than AutoHotKey?

JewishZombie · Post by **JewishZombie** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 11:16 pm

Prophet Izaach wrote:
JewishZombie wrote:This isn't a blurring of the line between botting and not. One you can leave alone for hours (or even days) at a time, the other...if you leave alone for a few minutes...you die (or at least don't gain any experience).

If you based the difference on time, it wouldn't solve the distinction because you'll have to set a precise line that classifies acts on one side to be botting and acts on the other side to be legitimate. To be honest, this line, whatever the argument is, would turn out to be arbitrary.

On a second point, I don't think botting should not be based consequentially. It doesn't matter if a person doesn't gain any XP or gain a tremendous amount. So long as he/she is using a bot, it would still be botting.

Anyway, let's leave the botting conversation aside as this board is already suffering from numerous ones.

JewishZombie wrote:-------Wolf healing scripts-------------
-------------------------Party formation-----------

Those are sweet. Haven't tried Auto it. Is it better than AutoHotKey?

I personally have no quelms over botting; some people want to do it I don't care. I don't do it and it doesn't hurt me. You're right though that the line that I've drawn is arbitary, but then isn't auto-potting using a bot as well? Isn't a machene doing what you're supposed to be doing yourself. During the beta, I remember that people would yell at each other for using auto pot when it came out. =P Things change...I don't think there's a single person who pvp's without autopot (I have...adds a new challenge and is fun, but I lose more. >.<).

I do however get annoyed when my wolf dies or when I forget to form a party (because suddenly I'm leader). Autoit I personally like because it's so simple to use/learn.

Boontang · Post by **Boontang** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 11:48 pm

This thread is sounding more and more like jsro and ksro where botting is accepted (they realize 80-90 requires no life to obtain). I'm not sure whether this is good or bad, but i'll roll.

firefox6 · Post by **firefox6** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 11:52 pm

Boontang wrote:This thread is sounding more and more like jsro and ksro where botting is accepted (they realize 80-90 requires no life to obtain). I'm not sure whether this is good or bad, but i'll roll.

i dont think anyone on this forum will ever reach a lvl 150 with out a bot.
but thats not the point.. all the poster asked is already answered.

Renton · Post by **Renton** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 11:53 pm

firefox6 wrote:i want the blade brake down script..

+1 Let's make wind 2 drop prices.

JewishZombie · Post by **JewishZombie** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 11:55 pm

Boontang wrote:This thread is sounding more and more like jsro and ksro where botting is accepted (they realize 80-90 requires no life to obtain). I'm not sure whether this is good or bad.

+1

firefox6 wrote:i dont think anyone on this forum will ever reach a lvl 150 with out a bot.
but thats not the point.. all the poster asked is already answered.

+1

Matrixman__ · Post by **Matrixman__** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 12:26 am

i have a logitech G15 keyboard, is allows me to have better placement for my skills, use multiple skills for one key and use imbue with every skills with onyl the push of one button. is this considered a 3rd party program, because it is, but this is what it was meant for, games like this

<3 macros

JewishZombie · Post by **JewishZombie** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 12:52 am

Matrixman__ wrote:i have a logitech G15 keyboard, is allows me to have better placement for my skills, use multiple skills for one key and use imbue with every skills with onyl the push of one button. is this considered a 3rd party program, because it is, but this is what it was meant for, games like this

<3 macros

That's exactly why macros (such as autoit) are allowed. There's no difference between the two since there's no gameguard on the computer.

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