To nukers ; Who's dropping their Fire for lvl 90?

[littleowner]

snow shield and phy buffs ftw

[[SD]DamonX]

Am now asking myself, is it rlly important to have bicheon? I dont think so.. first of all, i only use it for kd's-stabs-light chain.Those dont help me to kill (the hits) but only the curses of light chain helps to kill, which gives rarely division imo >.< Also, i only use bicheon in pvp. I think i would prefer to have fire or force.. Fire for everything or Force for his good curses lvl 60+

Force: I did some test in pvp and, some of lvl 62 wasnt able to curse me with his decay spell..i was always resisting lolz. How come? isnt suppose to be 80% of success?and when he putted it on me, it lasts only less then 10 sec O_O, isnt suppose to be 30 sec lol?

[Ice771x]

i said yes even tho its not specifically for 90 cap. currently i have fire 60. it was 80 but i dropped it down and upped ice to 80. at 90 ill be doing 90 spear light ice 30 fire.

[[SD]Kratos]

KD is life saver dont drop it

[[SD]DamonX]

KD is life saver dont drop it

I dont use it often in pvp, and feel having no trouble

[___ONLY___]

with all the people who are dropping fire im thinkin about making an ice blader

[Matrixman__]

ice, light and fire for 90 cap, i like fast grinding and killing uniques, seems like a good build for me

I'm doing that build for the same reasons.

i already tried the new nuker build, bicheon, ice and light to 80/90, didnt like it, i would lose unique battles all the time, now i always get the kills

btw, i have full int5 gear and +7 sword mag attack and reinforce 61%, crit12, but using the bicheon moves, getting a crit more often doesnt make up for the loss of damage from the nukes

I agree.

I also tried the Light Ice Bicheon.

Frankly that build is hella weak. One strong nuke that's it. Second book lightning is not ok, its freaken weak compared to maxed out fire nukes.

Question is. You want to be effective in party grind? You want to hunt uniques. Be great damage dealer in large job fight?

Or

You want a 1 v 1 build?

Having Fire will let you be awsome in unique hunts, large job fights, great damage dealer and overall great support.

Light Ice (Weapon) is only good for 1 v 1. Frankly in SRO 1 v 1 is about as boring as it can get. Incredible boredom.

INT is supposed to be a support damage dealer. But people want a Pure INT to be a tank. Whatever, seems really lame to me.

i agree 100%, since when do pure int's need str weapon skills, just seems stupid to me. and if people think knock down/stab saves ur life, think again, i bet you 100mil you cannot kill a pure str lvl 80 full farmed in decent garms with only kd and stab, even if you have crit14 sword, aint gonna happen. so i say screw bicheon, focus on force skills

[kevv]

ice, light and fire for 90 cap, i like fast grinding and killing uniques, seems like a good build for me

I'm doing that build for the same reasons.

i already tried the new nuker build, bicheon, ice and light to 80/90, didnt like it, i would lose unique battles all the time, now i always get the kills

btw, i have full int5 gear and +7 sword mag attack and reinforce 61%, crit12, but using the bicheon moves, getting a crit more often doesnt make up for the loss of damage from the nukes

I agree.

I also tried the Light Ice Bicheon.

Frankly that build is hella weak. One strong nuke that's it. Second book lightning is not ok, its freaken weak compared to maxed out fire nukes.

Question is. You want to be effective in party grind? You want to hunt uniques. Be great damage dealer in large job fight?

Or

You want a 1 v 1 build?

Having Fire will let you be awsome in unique hunts, large job fights, great damage dealer and overall great support.

Light Ice (Weapon) is only good for 1 v 1. Frankly in SRO 1 v 1 is about as boring as it can get. Incredible boredom.

INT is supposed to be a support damage dealer. But people want a Pure INT to be a tank. Whatever, seems really lame to me.

i agree 100%, since when do pure int's need str weapon skills, just seems stupid to me. and if people think knock down/stab saves ur life, think again, i bet you 100mil you cannot kill a pure str lvl 80 full farmed in decent garms with only kd and stab, even if you have crit14 sword, aint gonna happen. so i say screw bicheon, focus on force skills

Your not gonna kill anything with just nukes either unless you have a sun sword, you can probably get off two nukes before you get stuned/kb'ed.

[Matrixman__]

ice, light and fire for 90 cap, i like fast grinding and killing uniques, seems like a good build for me

I'm doing that build for the same reasons.

i already tried the new nuker build, bicheon, ice and light to 80/90, didnt like it, i would lose unique battles all the time, now i always get the kills

btw, i have full int5 gear and +7 sword mag attack and reinforce 61%, crit12, but using the bicheon moves, getting a crit more often doesnt make up for the loss of damage from the nukes

I agree.

I also tried the Light Ice Bicheon.

Frankly that build is hella weak. One strong nuke that's it. Second book lightning is not ok, its freaken weak compared to maxed out fire nukes.

Question is. You want to be effective in party grind? You want to hunt uniques. Be great damage dealer in large job fight?

Or

You want a 1 v 1 build?

Having Fire will let you be awsome in unique hunts, large job fights, great damage dealer and overall great support.

Light Ice (Weapon) is only good for 1 v 1. Frankly in SRO 1 v 1 is about as boring as it can get. Incredible boredom.

INT is supposed to be a support damage dealer. But people want a Pure INT to be a tank. Whatever, seems really lame to me.

i agree 100%, since when do pure int's need str weapon skills, just seems stupid to me. and if people think knock down/stab saves ur life, think again, i bet you 100mil you cannot kill a pure str lvl 80 full farmed in decent garms with only kd and stab, even if you have crit14 sword, aint gonna happen. so i say screw bicheon, focus on force skills

Your not gonna kill anything with just nukes either unless you have a sun sword, you can probably get off two nukes before you get stuned/kb'ed.

well, i am full farmed and can nuke pure str in good garms at 10k, so 3-4 nukes and they are usually dead or close to it, thank god for +5 full blue armor set and br18 shield

[[SD]DamonX]

well, i am full farmed and can nuke pure str in good garms at 10k, so 3-4 nukes and they are usually dead or close to it, thank god for +5 full blue armor set and br18 shield

+1, And if u use Force, (weaken) dmg will go like 13k+

[mKaaru]

to all the nukers that are thinking about dropping fire and make light their main mastery for imbue and nukes and stuff

READ THIS FIRST

it's a "guide" why lightning isn't necessarely a "must" and that you actually should NOT drop fire with the 90cap around the corner and 300 mastery limit. read it and be amazed my friends \o/

i'll be expecting a lot of _O_ in that topic

[___ONLY___]

if your already going to worry about 150 cap then just LoL

[MooMooMoo]

What Im aiming atm is

90 fire - (Imbue,Fire shield,Earth fire prot. Nuke)

90 light - (Speed, mag increase and nukes)

60 bicheon - (Fun combo's and block masteries including iron wall series)

60 ice - (Snow shield)

[DragonTalon]

My reasons for keeping fire:

1. The fire nukes always look better
2. Im too lazy and too poor to delvl 50 lvls of fire...
3. My light nukes are shit... I dont even have book 2 yet and im 52

[knubbka]

I have no fire at all

light 100 / heuksal 100 / cold 100
(int hybrid)

[imp3r10]

if your going for pure power then you'll want fire/light/bicheon(heuskal) since fire nukes are still strongest at 90 cap

[Airbeat]

I think s/s's are kinda screwed.. They need the extra damage that fire gives. Int spear already have much power, so light will be good enough, so with heusal 90 Light 90 and Ice 90, we should be safe
And also, with 30 fire, we can also be immune ^^

[phulshof]

Force: I did some test in pvp and, some of lvl 62 wasnt able to curse me with his decay spell..i was always resisting lolz. How come? isnt suppose to be 80% of success?and when he putted it on me, it lasts only less then 10 sec O_O, isnt suppose to be 30 sec lol?

The 80% and 30 seconds are only against an opponent of the same level as the skill, just like many other skills like knock down.

[Allig2948]

Either cold will go down or bicheon, since I havent usedd bicheon in 75 lvls

your Bicheon skills make up 50% of your build. If you get someone or a monster in Division, and than nuke them, say bye bye.

As for dlvling, I would dlvl your Fire to about 65.

[[SD]DamonX]

Force: I did some test in pvp and, some of lvl 62 wasnt able to curse me with his decay spell..i was always resisting lolz. How come? isnt suppose to be 80% of success?and when he putted it on me, it lasts only less then 10 sec O_O, isnt suppose to be 30 sec lol?

The 80% and 30 seconds are only against an opponent of the same level as the skill, just like many other skills like knock down.

Yay, lol thx alot for answring me ^_^ Other opinions about topic Anyone?

[phulshof]

Yay, lol thx alot for answring me ^_^ Other opinions about topic?

Sure, but this is the Xth thread on this topic, and I've already stated my opinion many times.

For the 90 cap, holding on to fire is an option. You lose little in the lightning tree by keeping it at 60-70. Going full lightning is fine as well, since you have a lvl 86 and a lvl 90 nuke to go with.

For the 100 cap, holding on to fire is a pain. You'll lose heavily on either cold or lightning, but you do have multiple strong nukes. If you go full lightning, you'll be stuck using lion shout and or bicheon/heuksal skills to fill the time. The level 86 nuke will look weak in comparison.

Above level 100, I think holding on to fire is just plain undoable. You'll need at least minimal ice support for snow shield, and lightning for speed and magical damage increase.

Hence I figure I may as well get started, and take lightning over fire now rather than having to do a lot of deleveling later.

As for force: you'd have to drop your weapon mastery to do it. I'm considering it for my alternate character. For the level 80 cap it's not really worth it, but with the 90 cap 80% chance of division might make up for not having my bicheon skills.

[[SD]DamonX]

As for force: you'd have to drop your weapon mastery to do it. I'm considering it for my alternate character. For the level 80 cap it's not really worth it, but with the 90 cap 80% chance of division might make up for not having my bicheon skills.

I know <3