[help] can't kill a lv80 2hand warrior/cleric

otl168 · Post by **otl168** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 10:21 pm

iron skin, mana skin and bless spell make them unkillable for one and a half minutes,
they also have knockdown and high crit (12k crit on a blader :banghead:

)
i wonder which chinese build can kill them 1v1

EgHu4Ka · Post by **EgHu4Ka** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 10:29 pm

Glaiver forsure in other words bladers are useless

Snudge · Post by **Snudge** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 10:33 pm

EgHu4Ka wrote:Glaiver forsure in other words bladers are useless

NOTHING can beat one in that 1.5 minute. And even a lucky player would be able to kill a proper played one outside of it.

Juey · Post by **Juey** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 10:37 pm

ever heard of something called "wait it out" ?

fasd · Post by **fasd** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 10:37 pm

Warlock: Debuff...
Besides that i won't believe in a chance to kill him by passing his defenses, maybe a crit with a stealth backstabb rogue lvl80 in berseker with dagger desperate on max... and i still doubt that passes +20k damage...

Test007 · Post by **Test007** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 11:45 pm

EgHu4Ka wrote:Glaiver forsure in other words bladers are useless

I bet you are a glaiver... I will enjoy to see you trying to kill the build mentioned and fail and face the floor... muahaha.. =.=

Juey wrote:ever heard of something called "wait it out" ?

wait it out is for puxxies... Honestly I preffer to die in combat than run away like a chicken

XemnasXD · Post by **XemnasXD** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 11:53 pm

Warlock with debuffs.... a glaiver can't come close to deal enough damage to kill a warrior in that state

akuji^ · Post by **akuji^** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 12:32 am

wait 1.5 minute and a nuker can take him out

Juey · Post by **Juey** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 12:34 am

Test007 wrote:
EgHu4Ka wrote:Glaiver forsure in other words bladers are useless

I bet you are a glaiver... I will enjoy to see you trying to kill the build mentioned and fail and face the floor... muahaha.. =.=

Juey wrote:ever heard of something called "wait it out" ?

wait it out is for puxxies... Honestly I preffer to die in combat than run away like a chicken

U might call it puxxies, but the one u called puxxies will finish the guy when his buff is over and stand over your death corpse and laugh at it.

Fighting someone in a set up state that they want u to fight them is stupid. Fight them when they don't want u to fight them, is more tactical sound.

jay0303 · Post by **jay0303** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 12:38 am

running away is not puxxie it is smart u have no idea how much money i made by that like when lvl 45 warrior was on trade and i am lvl 40 i killed him when he teleported ferry because his buffs were gone

torinchibi · Post by **torinchibi** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 12:52 am

If you can run, then that's a valid tactic, but if he has a typhoon scroll on, you are pretty much screwed. He'll sprint assault your ass over and over, and that doing stun with increased chance at level 80 it's a good % and lands quite often.

Btw, he said what CHINESE can kill him. In reality, all the euros can kill him 1 way or another, and a cleric can most likely do it with offering even when he's buffed. I actually pulled off offering on my friend while he was attacking with 2h, by using healing cycle.

Juey · Post by **Juey** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 1:03 am

torinchibi wrote:If you can run, then that's a valid tactic, but if he has a typhoon scroll on, you are pretty much screwed. He'll sprint assault your ass over and over, and that doing stun with increased chance at level 80 it's a good % and lands quite often.

Btw, he said what CHINESE can kill him. In reality, all the euros can kill him 1 way or another, and a cleric can most likely do it with offering even when he's buffed. I actually pulled off offering on my friend while he was attacking with 2h, by using healing cycle.

not to get off topic anyway to counter that. If the guy actually is rich enough to waste 240k on a simple PVP, I would stun him with the bard skill holding clamor 80% chance of stunning him for 10 secs, then run away out of sight. If in a rare case it fails I would just put on my shield and run in circle or try to get him stuck behind some trees. Pure str with shield on is hard for anyone to kill especially when you must catch up on him. If need speed I can also put on dagger and use scud, 132% speed GG. or if i feel like playing with him, put on a bow and spam KD and KB.
Or the easy way, move back to safezone

otl168 · Post by **otl168** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 1:12 am

so there is no way a chinese can kill a 2Hand warrior 1v1, just run away when you see them?
warrior is overpowered!!

Juey · Post by **Juey** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 1:17 am

otl168 wrote:so there is no way a chinese can kill a 2Hand warrior 1v1, just run away when you see them?
warrior is overpowered!!

Only for like 45 seconds, if u run away, he can't kill u either...
After that, pwn him.

-.- · Post by **-.-** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 8:08 am

:/ if he has cleric it means he is slowest person in game in heavy armor...

only thing he can do is sprint assualt to catch you, chinese can ghost walk away...

sculi · Post by **sculi** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 9:13 am

blader can kill him just kd him to death XD

Makaveli · Post by **Makaveli** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 4:57 pm

A lvl 80 blader farmed can kill easy a warrior

I saw some pvps in my server.. and the blader won always
agianst warriors :love:

sikdd · Post by **sikdd** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 9:00 pm

snowshield last 2 mins.. warrior last less.. im guessing everyone considering both chars farmed.. so simple as.. even int hybrids can defeat them if they wait it out with their own buff also bicheon extra 15 secs of iron wall.. pure str will have no mp for it but ive seen some tank against them without it and pure int .. can still die with snowshield but not all..

otl168 · Post by **otl168** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 10:07 pm

Hershey wrote:
Makaveli wrote:A lvl 80 blader farmed can kill easy a warrior

I saw some pvps in my server.. and the blader won always
agianst warriors

the blader has to be full sosun =]

my server doesn't have sox, everyone use +5~+7
and I haven't seen a chinese kill 80warrior/cleric 1v1 :banghead:

Makaveli · Post by **Makaveli** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 10:15 pm

otl168 wrote:
Hershey wrote:
Makaveli wrote:A lvl 80 blader farmed can kill easy a warrior

I saw some pvps in my server.. and the blader won always
agianst warriors

the blader has to be full sosun =]

Dont think so

blader

warrior

Ell · Post by **Ell** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 11:32 pm

If you're blader just kd until his mana skin runs out. You can also use snowshield if you have it.

Nitro · Post by **Nitro** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 4:29 pm

Ell wrote:If you're blader just kd until his mana skin runs out. You can also use snowshield if you have it.

You are all talking like he just attacks ... he can kd TOO!....
Stun - KD - KB .... Ownage ...

And for your running tactic ... if you run ... he wont chase you if
he hasnt got 100% speed buff (potion) ...
And when his buffs go out ... he can just run in safe zone ...
and rebuff .... (Now dont call this a pussy tactic ... I see rogues
and wizards do that all the time .... Yes, Juey.)

Embodiment · Post by **Embodiment** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:23 pm

There is a Skill under the ice force tree called "Snow Shield" o_0 lol use it, Warriors are scary no chinese should fight them without Snow Shield...bottom line...if they call you a mana shield noob..tell them to don't use your warrior buffs see how long you last...if they say these are my buffs...say mana shield is my buff.

bakafish · Post by **bakafish** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 9:44 pm

Warrior/Cleric

has Holy Spell which makes a Warlock's debuff utterly useless.
can never die with Iron Skin on from a lv80 Rogue with backstab from stealth.
can kill a lv80 full farmed pure INT/STR even with Snow Shield. (Pure STR: results might differ with sosun)
can use Vital Increase which will increase their hp by nearly 8k and tank when both Bless Spell and Iron/Mana Skins are done.

TIP: Don't use Iron and Mana Skin together. If you opponent is STR use Iron Skin, when it's over use Mana Skin and Vital Increase to tank until it cooldowns, vice versa for Pure INT but maybe you don't need Iron Skin then.

-.- · Post by **-.-** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 9:49 pm

and anything with a sub can kill warrior cleric...

all you have to do bind/fear/freeze/stun/kd/kb then use absolute damages...

learn to use subs for things other than 1 or 2 buffs >.> you have an entire tree with good skills so use them in fights too

edit: and bladder has a mana skin too, well whatever the shield buff is called
and warrior only attacks in phy so...

EngravedDemon · Post by **EngravedDemon** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 9:51 pm

sikdd wrote:snowshield last 2 mins.. warrior last less.. im guessing everyone considering both chars farmed.. so simple as.. even int hybrids can defeat them if they wait it out with their own buff also bicheon extra 15 secs of iron wall.. pure str will have no mp for it but ive seen some tank against them without it and pure int .. can still die with snowshield but not all..

Eh.. Actually... From my experience, we're actually the ones who wait out the 2 mins Snow duration... Tho most people die with snow on...

Hardest I've fought so far is a pure str glaiver with Sun Prots and Sun Accessories on a 1v1... 2 crits only about 16~18k dmg with 20% snow it's even less... It's gonan be interesting tho since the sun drop rate is back to how it should be, 90 cap would make the remaining chinese players with full suns very lame and it's most likely that Euro's would start getting sun too...

Skin (45 Secs 2 Mins CD), Bless (45 Secs 3 mins CD)

If a warrior's smart enough, he'll know what to do...

Megaman · Post by **Megaman** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 10:07 pm

Test007 wrote:
EgHu4Ka wrote:Glaiver forsure in other words bladers are useless

I bet you are a glaiver... I will enjoy to see you trying to kill the build mentioned and fail and face the floor... muahaha.. =.=

Juey wrote:ever heard of something called "wait it out" ?

wait it out is for puxxies... Honestly I preffer to die in combat than run away like a chicken

THIS GUY IS OBVIOUSLY WELL EDUCATED.

binnosh · Post by **binnosh** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 10:40 pm

all i can say is a well played warrior is prolly the hardest char to beat in game.

bmwmmm · Post by **bmwmmm** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 1:04 am

first 1.5min no one can kill him with iron skin and bless spell,
after that you only have 30sec to kill a warrior with recovery division, KD, KB/stun,vital increase, cuz iron skin recharge in 2min
so, there is no way a chinese can solo a warrior/cleric without sun

nicholastyc · Post by **nicholastyc** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 1:55 am

1hnd warrior...sub cleric!!!2nd warrior sub cleric....
a fight tht is 50/50 !!!
see who know how to use all the skills correctly...
heaven glare...heaven flash...glut healing..over healing...recovery division ...iron skin mana skin...vital increase...
haha....wat a good warrior...
hehe...
which chinese wants to try this out?
unless SUN set..will beat them...also 50/50 !!!

1hnd warrior got lower dmg...but faster speed and dull n KB...but faster atck speed also increase crit chance...
2nhd warrior got high dmg but lower speed and Kd...higher crit...
Axe....i dunno...but they are good...any axe lv70+ outhere? share yr experience...