Uhm.. Let me tell you something.. Im pure int spear lvl 80 in Garment. I have 9 gap. I have Snow Shield 40 % .. Full farmed 80 glaviers have no chance to kill me with snow shield on Oh well, doesnt really matter anyway, as i kill them with nuke+mars with sun+7 spear (not mine)
I would recommend to go pure int to 70, then make your choice.. A few levels str wouldnt hurt your nukes..
Wish I had a sun spear. Glaviers wont last too long against you. Have you tried pvping pure str rogue chars, or pure int wizards?. By garm set, I'm referring to a +4~5 set with good blues.
Uhm.. Let me tell you something.. Im pure int spear lvl 80 in Garment. I have 9 gap. I have Snow Shield 40 % .. Full farmed 80 glaviers have no chance to kill me with snow shield on Oh well, doesnt really matter anyway, as i kill them with nuke+mars with sun+7 spear (not mine)
I would recommend to go pure int to 70, then make your choice.. A few levels str wouldnt hurt your nukes..
Wish I had a sun spear. Glaviers wont last too long against you. Have you tried pvping pure str rogue chars, or pure int wizards?. By garm set, I'm referring to a +4~5 set with good blues.
Hmm.. i dont really know, i usually dont pvp euro's..
And i wont waste my snow shield on them either, as i will probably get killed anyway
Uhm.. Let me tell you something.. Im pure int spear lvl 80 in Garment. I have 9 gap. I have Snow Shield 40 % .. Full farmed 80 glaviers have no chance to kill me with snow shield on Oh well, doesnt really matter anyway, as i kill them with nuke+mars with sun+7 spear (not mine)
I would recommend to go pure int to 70, then make your choice.. A few levels str wouldnt hurt your nukes..
Wish I had a sun spear. Glaviers wont last too long against you. Have you tried pvping pure str rogue chars, or pure int wizards?. By garm set, I'm referring to a +4~5 set with good blues.
Hmm.. i dont really know, i usually dont pvp euro's.. And i wont waste my snow shield on them either, as i will probably get killed anyway
AirBeat you got any PvP vids of you're pure int spear? I wanna see how it copes with snow shield.
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No sorry, not at the moment, but i can make one i guess..
I got no time today, but i we'll see I have always wanted to go hybrid, coz ive always been a big fan of theese videos:
Im full int spear. In protector with Fire/Heuksal-80 and Light/Ice-70. I know its not a usual build but I wanted to go for the extra damage and not defence. Atm Im 9 gap but should be closing it tomorrow, before I started farming I had Fire/Weapon/Light at 75 and ice at 68. I could easily kill a full farmed Hybrid Int or a pure int S/S. And I could tank afew of the Full farmed glaviers with descent protection. I even killed quite afew. And believe me, as weird as it might sound to you, this build works great in a GOOD job party. All I need is 1 blader with me, we end up killing a full Str with full sun garments just the other day. You could solo too...nowadays with snow shield- everything is possible for this build.
And last but not least. Pure Int>Hybrid Int. Pure Str>Hybrid Str. And there is nobody that can prove me wrong.
LockStar. wrote:And last but not least. Pure Int>Hybrid Int. Pure Str>Hybrid Str. And there is nobody that can prove me wrong.
For glaives and spears I couldn't agree more. Keep it pure. Interesting build btw LockStar. Do u notice a major damage difference between u and other pure spears?
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Im full int spear. In protector with Fire/Heuksal-80 and Light/Ice-70. I know its not a usual build but I wanted to go for the extra damage and not defence. Atm Im 9 gap but should be closing it tomorrow, before I started farming I had Fire/Weapon/Light at 75 and ice at 68. I could easily kill a full farmed Hybrid Int or a pure int S/S. And I could tank afew of the Full farmed glaviers with descent protection. I even killed quite afew. And believe me, as weird as it might sound to you, this build works great in a GOOD job party. All I need is 1 blader with me, we end up killing a full Str with full sun garments just the other day. You could solo too...nowadays with snow shield- everything is possible for this build.
And last but not least. Pure Int>Hybrid Int. Pure Str>Hybrid Str. And there is nobody that can prove me wrong.
Just my share of experience.
I'd really like to see some vids. or i'll make a lvl 1 account on your server. give me 5k gold and i'll watch you pvp and job at dw. I wanna see how pure int goes.
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MrFudge wrote:all the ksro vids show ridiculous chinese orgys with like 3 rows of buffs.
it really doesnt seem like going hybrid will help you stay alive since uve already got all that buff shit on you, it will just make you lose damage.
See, I could careless about Euro buffs. If you can't kill me with your own farmed up buffs, that makes you pathetic. I mean I want a build for straight up 1v1 PvP, with your own farmed skills. No cleric or warrior or whatever bullshit buffs. Why Pure Int? I mean there must be something about it. I mean you guys are just saying a build because the next person says it too. That makes no sense. Any back up to your theories? Besides watching a bunch of Ksro Euro Buffed Job wars?
eventually, every job party or anything will have a cleric by it on their side.
you wanna be hybrid for a little more suvival and still die? go for it. Youll just be losing damage.
of course if you just wanna stand in south dw and ask for 1v1s without cleric buffs and just do that for a living then be my guest.
Well, consider at 90 cap, you'll have the 70% snow shield...
hybrids probably won't be able to use it...
snow shield 70% + shield + amrmor = 2 minutes of tanking. And if a pure int can't kill someone in two minutes....they shouldn't be fighting that level in general...
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MrFudge wrote:all the ksro vids show ridiculous chinese orgys with like 3 rows of buffs.
it really doesnt seem like going hybrid will help you stay alive since uve already got all that buff shit on you, it will just make you lose damage.
See, I could careless about Euro buffs. If you can't kill me with your own farmed up buffs, that makes you pathetic. I mean I want a build for straight up 1v1 PvP, with your own farmed skills. No cleric or warrior or whatever bullshit buffs. Why Pure Int? I mean there must be something about it. I mean you guys are just saying a build because the next person says it too. That makes no sense. Any back up to your theories? Besides watching a bunch of Ksro Euro Buffed Job wars?
eventually, every job party or anything will have a cleric by it on their side. you wanna be hybrid for a little more suvival and still die? go for it. Youll just be losing damage.
of course if you just wanna stand in south dw and ask for 1v1s without cleric buffs and just do that for a living then be my guest.
Im full int spear. In protector with Fire/Heuksal-80 and Light/Ice-70. I know its not a usual build but I wanted to go for the extra damage and not defence. Atm Im 9 gap but should be closing it tomorrow, before I started farming I had Fire/Weapon/Light at 75 and ice at 68. I could easily kill a full farmed Hybrid Int or a pure int S/S. And I could tank afew of the Full farmed glaviers with descent protection. I even killed quite afew. And believe me, as weird as it might sound to you, this build works great in a GOOD job party. All I need is 1 blader with me, we end up killing a full Str with full sun garments just the other day. You could solo too...nowadays with snow shield- everything is possible for this build.
And last but not least. Pure Int>Hybrid Int. Pure Str>Hybrid Str. And there is nobody that can prove me wrong.
Just my share of experience.
I'd really like to see some vids. or i'll make a lvl 1 account on your server. give me 5k gold and i'll watch you pvp and job at dw. I wanna see how pure int goes.
Sure, you can come on alps if you like. Pm me ingame or just PM me here and I will give you my MSN/Xfire.
Naigasakis_Rebirth wrote:For glaives and spears I couldn't agree more. Keep it pure. Interesting build btw LockStar. Do u notice a major damage difference between u and other pure spears?
There is afew Full int spears around here. One is pretty close to my level since he has a Som+7 spear but I haven't tried him yet. Just got farmed.Hes the usual 80-Light,Ice,Heuksal in garments.
I have a 80% int hybrid at lvl 71, and so far doing quite well. A full int spear is highly unadvisable, the hp is far too low to counteract that low defence. Full int spears are quite good at fighting full ints, but a full str crushes them every time. I'm not sure of the int:str ratio, but my suggestion is 80-85% magic balance if you're going to be an int hybrid
For a calculator to design your build and int:str balance, try visiting http://www.nivlam.com , its a great site, skill/sp/ratio calculator up to level 100
Uhm.. Let me tell you something.. Im pure int spear lvl 80 in Garment. I have 9 gap. I have Snow Shield 40 % .. Full farmed 80 glaviers have no chance to kill me with snow shield on Oh well, doesnt really matter anyway, as i kill them with nuke+mars with sun+7 spear (not mine)
I would recommend to go pure int to 70, then make your choice.. A few levels str wouldnt hurt your nukes..
u make it sound like if you were sooOOoooO stroNG
Snowshield in pvp is just waste of pot and 2 min... good glaiver will drop you few secs after your snow shield is gonE.
try sun glaiver with your "borrowed SoSuN spear" lol L8R
egyptology wrote:Well, consider at 90 cap, you'll have the 70% snow shield...
hybrids probably won't be able to use it...
snow shield 70% + shield + amrmor = 2 minutes of tanking. And if a pure int can't kill someone in two minutes....they shouldn't be fighting that level in general...
uhhh...wth are you pulling this from? at 90cap snow shield will only be 53% absorbtion...(snow shield goes to next 1x% every 20 levels, starts at lvl20, then 30% @ lvl40, 40% @ lvl60, and 50% @ lvl80)
We should stop treating people like objects, or at least treat our objects with more respect.
pure INT is a noob's build, easy to build but its far from good in anything except solo grinding, a unique can probably kill you so easily with all his spawns, in PvP you'll always get 1 hit by Rogues and if you see a party mob, you're in trouble.
one of my old accounts was a 1:5 hybrid INT s/s, damage lots higher then a pure's, i could tank and i hardly died and i had lots of fun with that build.
Scaglietti wrote:pure INT is a noob's build, easy to build but its far from good in anything except solo grinding, a unique can probably kill you so easily with all his spawns, in PvP you'll always get 1 hit by Rogues and if you see a party mob, you're in trouble.
one of my old accounts was a 1:5 hybrid INT s/s, damage lots higher then a pure's, i could tank and i hardly died and i had lots of fun with that build.
You my friend are an idiot.
A hybrid can never ever out damage a pure INT. That is biggest pile of bullcrap I've read all day.
For videos I personally love the ones from Hydralisk and United Guild on Bable. They did a series of duels to test some builds. None of this OMG he has sosun, he's so awsome crap or OMG look at these euro buffs.
To me doesn't get more definitive than that. No one here has full sos gear. Everyone about the same level of farm. Just demonstrates build vs build (STR/INT Ratio)
If you're hybrid and getting owned this badly, might as well go pure. Not like you really have a better chance of survival, might as well go for most damage possible then.
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Scaglietti wrote:pure INT is a noob's build, easy to build but its far from good in anything except solo grinding, a unique can probably kill you so easily with all his spawns, in PvP you'll always get 1 hit by Rogues and if you see a party mob, you're in trouble.
one of my old accounts was a 1:5 hybrid INT s/s, damage lots higher then a pure's, i could tank and i hardly died and i had lots of fun with that build.
You my friend are an idiot.
A hybrid can never ever out damage a pure INT. That is biggest pile of bullcrap I've read all day.
For videos I personally love the ones from Hydralisk and United Guild on Bable. They did a series of duels to test some builds. None of this OMG he has sosun, he's so awsome crap or OMG look at these euro buffs.
To me doesn't get more definitive than that. No one here has full sos gear. Everyone about the same level of farm. Just demonstrates build vs build (STR/INT Ratio)
aren't you thay noobish moron who doesn't know how to spell and use the Edit button? now before replying i suggest you go check the "Highest Damage Contest" stickied topic and check the results, at higher levels a hybrid does WAY more damage, and who the **** cares if you're the highest damage dealer at 2x?
Scaglietti wrote:pure INT is a noob's build, easy to build but its far from good in anything except solo grinding, a unique can probably kill you so easily with all his spawns, in PvP you'll always get 1 hit by Rogues and if you see a party mob, you're in trouble.
one of my old accounts was a 1:5 hybrid INT s/s, damage lots higher then a pure's, i could tank and i hardly died and i had lots of fun with that build.
There is NO noob build, it's usually the person behind it saying it's noob, and really doesn't know much about it. No hybrid will out damage a pure int anyday. And any pure build is easy to build...just either put all stats into str or into int. Party mobs are no problem for pure ints or any build as long as you have decent gear. And any chinese build can be 1 hit by rogues if they crit, that doesn't just go for pure ints...it's just easier since they have less hp '-.-.
We should stop treating people like objects, or at least treat our objects with more respect.
I'm not go waste my time looking for something that I know doesn't exist. You can live in your fantasy world and brag to everyone how your hybrid does more dmg than a pure INT. But no one is going to believe you. Keep dreaming.
YOu have any idea how many players are in SRO and did not do that lame contest?
Anyone aka you who would use that as their proof is complete dumbass. That's not definitive.
For those who keep talking about level caps. Here it is nice and simple.
This is from my personal experience. Experience of my guildmates. Experience of other players I had opportunity to talk to. Experience in both iSRO and kSRO.
Is this definitive proof. No this is my experience.
Gear for Gear similar. Not talking about sun users. Pure STR using +4 Garments, +7 Glaive. Hybrid INT is using +4 protectors and +7 Spear. These are the results.
60 Cap: Pure STR Glaive destroyed Hybrid INT Spear (60 Cap people had +3, +5 was incredibly hard back then)
70 Cap: Pure STR Glaive destroyed Hybrid INT Spear
80 Cap (Pre update): Pure STR Glaive destroyed Hybrid INT Spear
80 Cap (Post update): Full farmed STR Glaive destroys Full farm Hybrid INT Spear.
With your Hybrid Spear, you're going for that slight chance of survival.
In my personal opinion its not worth it. Pure INT or Hybrid, you're gonna die. If I have 2 builds that both die easily, but one does more damage...
Which would I choose?
I choose damage. What is the point of being INT if you're not in it for the damage.
You sacrifice HP or physical def to have most magical damage possible. I go pure INT. But that's just me
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Not to drag this on, but it will probably anyways, but did you look at those pictures? the number 1 and 2 spot for hybrids both had sun bows
The number 1 spot for int probably had a sun, but who knows...the number 2 spot...no suns, and not too sure for the number 3 spot.
Any build can out damage another build simply if they have better gears (weapon, blues, etc). You can certainly outdamage anyone with a sun weapon '-.-
We should stop treating people like objects, or at least treat our objects with more respect.
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