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Well why don't you show us exactly how a leader has to be. What they stand for, how they behave, how they will change the government and country and how or why would it be better than those "fake leaders" we have now.

Make up someone and haev a whole profile on them, background,education,income,affiliations,etc since you seem to be so certain of what you're saying.
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StuckUP wrote:
redneck wrote:
StuckUP wrote:
redneck wrote:So its wrong for a white person to say something that happens to be true? Better to be stuck in an airport than starving or whoring on a street.

Oh You dont know how it is because you aint black..


you just....oh you just....WHOOO...crazyness. Again with the people judging ppl by what they see on TV. The TV sometimes lies to you all okay ppl? These ppls had a good life u know. Have u actually seen the documentary on Hurricane Katrina. It was on HBO and I have the DVD right in my house. And by what I remember they did not have it good in the airport.


Documentary..Sorry hun not on my top things to watch. It was the same thing, a few girls raped here and few girls raped there, nothing new.


can't expect a narrow minded person like you to see what happened. It all that and worse. Now STFU.


The TV sometimes lies to you all okay ppl?


Then you go recommending me to watch a documentary. Then you tell me living at an airport is worse then living on the street. Have you seen The Terminal? Do you know how long the guy lived there not complaining. What did you expect them to get? Hotel Rooms at The Marriott?
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Saying someone you chose to be your leader is an idiot is.. heh

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Stallowned wrote: since you seem to be so certain of what you're saying.

I am....I stick to my OPINION
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Stallowned wrote:Well why don't you show us exactly how a leader has to be. What they stand for, how they behave, how they will change the government and country and how or why would it be better than those "fake leaders" we have now.

Make up someone and haev a whole profile on them, background,education,income,affiliations,etc since you seem to be so certain of what you're saying.


Monica Lewinski for president
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StuckUP wrote:
Stallowned wrote: since you seem to be so certain of what you're saying.

I am....I stick to my OPINION

Well then do what I asked and show us(me)what a "true leader" is like.
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Stallowned wrote:
StuckUP wrote:
Stallowned wrote: since you seem to be so certain of what you're saying.

I am....I stick to my OPINION

Well then do what I asked and show us(me)what a "true leader" is like.


I can't do that but I can give you traits of it.


Compassion
Understanding
Assertiveness
Intellegence
Cunning
Common Sense
Citizenship
Fairness
Honor
and last but not least, Leadership(well no duh)
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Oh god StuckUp, so many things to say, so little time.
Let me just leave it at, damn your stupid.
If you ever want to have a discussion about my reasoning shoot me (and most likely all of the OTL) a pm, and we would gladly express to you our reasoning. :)
XemnasXD wrote:also im not going to stop calling him a cosmic douche, anyone that knows everything about everything, then creates you knowing full you won't end up following the rules he's made up for you, then punishes you for all eternity for it....come on...thats just being a d*ck.

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Xyzzzy wrote:Oh god StuckUp, so many things to say, so little time.
Let me just leave it at, damn your stupid.
If you ever want to have a discussion about my reasoning shoot me (and most likely all of the OTL) a pm, and we would gladly express to you our reasoning. :)


You all say I'm stupid, but really though I have my opinion you have yours. I'm not stupid because I don't follow your opinions. You people are too narrow minded to see that, everyone should know that by now that I am outspoken and the timid person who will kiss your ass just so I can get on your good side. I've made many enemies and I'm proud that I did because it just shows that I will not submit to this mindlessness. You can't tell me to open my eyes because my eyes are open and they have been open so cut the BS and let's get back on topic.
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StuckUP wrote:
Stallowned wrote:
StuckUP wrote:
Stallowned wrote: since you seem to be so certain of what you're saying.

I am....I stick to my OPINION

Well then do what I asked and show us(me)what a "true leader" is like.


I can't do that but I can give you traits of it.


Compassion
Understanding
Assertiveness
Intellegence
Cunning
Common Sense
Citizenship
Fairness
Honor
and last but not least, Leadership(well no duh)


That's very vague.
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Stallowned wrote:
StuckUP wrote:
Stallowned wrote:
StuckUP wrote:
Stallowned wrote: since you seem to be so certain of what you're saying.

I am....I stick to my OPINION

Well then do what I asked and show us(me)what a "true leader" is like.


I can't do that but I can give you traits of it.


Compassion
Understanding
Assertiveness
Intellegence
Cunning
Common Sense
Citizenship
Fairness
Honor
and last but not least, Leadership(well no duh)


That's very vague.


yes offcourse it is.....I have a very horrible headache from reading all this shitz and proving my point.
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StuckUP wrote:
Xyzzzy wrote:Oh god StuckUp, so many things to say, so little time.
Let me just leave it at, damn your stupid.
If you ever want to have a discussion about my reasoning shoot me (and most likely all of the OTL) a pm, and we would gladly express to you our reasoning. :)


You all say I'm stupid, but really though I have my opinion you have yours. I'm not stupid because I don't follow your opinions. You people are too narrow minded to see that, everyone should know that by now that I am outspoken and the timid person who will kiss your ass just so I can get on your good side. I've made many enemies and I'm proud that I did because it just shows that I will not submit to this mindlessness. You can't tell me to open my eyes because my eyes are open and they have been open so cut the BS and let's get back on topic.

Oh but I can tell you to open your eyes!
I don't care if this doesn't go to your head, I need someone to say it.
You talk of people being narrow minded, granted most you accuse of it are, but some aren't. I generally stay out of the arguments concerning you, because of the fact that you refuse to accept anyone else's opinion. You are extremely stubborn, and can never admit a mistake. If you would admit the times you contradict yourself or anything else, I would have a great respect for you, maybe more than anyone on these boards. You don't though, and that is what tarnishes your reputation.

I love the fact you don't kiss ass, and you have your opinions. I don't love that you can't admit your flaws.

I wish you a goodnight I'm leaving this thread now. :love:
XemnasXD wrote:also im not going to stop calling him a cosmic douche, anyone that knows everything about everything, then creates you knowing full you won't end up following the rules he's made up for you, then punishes you for all eternity for it....come on...thats just being a d*ck.

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Xyzzzy wrote:Oh but I can tell you to open your eyes!
I don't care if this doesn't go to your head, I need someone to say it.
You talk of people being narrow minded, granted most you accuse of it are, but some aren't. I generally stay out of the arguments concerning you, because of the fact that you refuse to accept anyone else's opinion. You are extremely stubborn, and can never admit a mistake. If you would admit the times you contradict yourself or anything else, I would have a great respect for you, maybe more than anyone on these boards. You don't though, and that is what tarnishes your reputation.

I love the fact you don't kiss ass, and you have your opinions. I don't love that you can't admit your flaws.

I wish you a goodnight I'm leaving this thread now. :love:

Don't worry, I fix'd it for you.

Compassion
Understanding
Assertiveness
Intellegence
Cunning
Common Sense
Citizenship
Fairness
Honor
and last but not least, Leadership(well no duh)

In politics, you're dreaming.
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Shadowman20818 wrote:
Xyzzzy wrote:Oh but I can tell you to open your eyes!
I don't care if this doesn't go to your head, I need someone to say it.
You talk of people being narrow minded, granted most you accuse of it are, but some aren't. I generally stay out of the arguments concerning you, because of the fact that you refuse to accept anyone else's opinion. You are extremely stubborn, and can never admit a mistake. If you would admit the times you contradict yourself or anything else, I would have a great respect for you, maybe more than anyone on these boards. You don't though, and that is what tarnishes your reputation.

I love the fact you don't kiss ass, and you have your opinions. I don't love that you can't admit your flaws.

I wish you a goodnight I'm leaving this thread now. :love:

Don't worry, I fix'd it for you.

Ha, maybe but we all do it sometimes. And I'm not sure she really gained anything from it anyways.
XemnasXD wrote:also im not going to stop calling him a cosmic douche, anyone that knows everything about everything, then creates you knowing full you won't end up following the rules he's made up for you, then punishes you for all eternity for it....come on...thats just being a d*ck.

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I'm British and therefore don't really care about Presidents and stuff in America!!!!

However - with our 2 countries United I feel obliged to have an opinion lol

I don't think he is a 'leader' per se but I do think he has done alright considering he has a mind of a 6 yr old lol

EDIT: That isn't a stab at American ppl just in case some peeps think that - it's just a lil joke lol
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StuckUP wrote:
redneck wrote:So its wrong for a white person to say something that happens to be true? Better to be stuck in an airport than starving or whoring on a street.

Oh You dont know how it is because you aint black..


you just....oh you just....WHOOO...crazyness. Again with the people judging ppl by what they see on TV. The TV sometimes lies to you all okay ppl? These ppls had a good life u know. Have u actually seen the documentary on Hurricane Katrina. It was on HBO and I have the DVD right in my house. And by what I remember they did not have it good in the airport. so stop trying to tell ppl you know what it feels bc you don't. You are not black so u don't know what we have to go through and just how badly ppl generalize us. And you where not one of the victims of Katrina, and don't tell me I'm wrong bc when I was living in Texas i spoke to alot of Katrina vitcims and they where miserable.

Barotix wrote:im "black", my dads rich [look up -name-] and i dont realy give a damn. my dad came from the bottom [american standard of bottom] from cleaning dishes to having a practice. and now well MEH? do i give 2 shits nah. i love how you said you are not black to redneck. as if "race" has anything to do with understanding people and their shiz. do i understand what the katrina victims are going thru? HELL NO! do i feel bad for them, yeah i gues i have feelings dont i? w/e "you're not black" everytime i hear some1 say that Mad Mad



A bit slow with the delete barotix but I'll be nice and remove the name.
Barotix You dont understand what I said in that line
Oh You dont know how it is because you aint black..
I basically used it because thats the typical excuse blacks happen to give whites. I was expecting StuckUp to say something around those lines.
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Silkroad wrote:I Like Pie !!!

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you're so....


SILKROAD FOR PRESIDENT!



ugh.


I hope StuckUp at least reads my post =/
XemnasXD wrote:also im not going to stop calling him a cosmic douche, anyone that knows everything about everything, then creates you knowing full you won't end up following the rules he's made up for you, then punishes you for all eternity for it....come on...thats just being a d*ck.

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You people would be surprised who Barotix really is...but i wont say a thing.

I promise :wink: :wink:
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redneck wrote:You people would be surprised who Barotix really is...but i wont say a thing.

I promise :wink: :wink:


u know him IRL ? hes GW Bush isnt he ? i knew it ... CONSPIRACY
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He's a criminal who should be impeached. Sadly he is a leader but anyone can be a leader if you get a couple of ppl to follow you. I don't think he's completely running the show but he's convinced about 30% of America that his is so that makes him a leader sadly. Not a good one. Not Stalin bad but certainly no Gandhi.....
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Not a good leader. Not the worst this country has seen either.

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StuckUP wrote:Do you think he is? If so explain if not then describe what a true leader is like.

I say no, George W. Bush is not a leader. He is weak minded and blindsighted. I cannot understand how someone born rich can be expected to lead a nation of people with different backgrounds. You can't be a leader unless you can relate and understand the people. And sadly George W. Bush cannot relate or understand.

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StuckUP wrote:Do you think he is? If so explain if not then describe what a true leader is like.

I say no, George W. Bush is not a leader. He is weak minded and blindsighted. I cannot understand how someone born rich can be expected to lead a nation of people with different backgrounds. You can't be a leader unless you can relate and understand the people. And sadly George W. Bush cannot relate or understand.

you just described 80 % of the us population
remember politicians came out of American homes and culture
and r voted in by Americans
thats why i will never vote cuz democrat or republic they all = the same 2 me
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bush is obviously not a leader the man almost died from a pretzel hahaha
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Silver0 wrote:
StuckUP wrote:Do you think he is? If so explain if not then describe what a true leader is like.

I say no, George W. Bush is not a leader. He is weak minded and blindsighted. I cannot understand how someone born rich can be expected to lead a nation of people with different backgrounds. You can't be a leader unless you can relate and understand the people. And sadly George W. Bush cannot relate or understand.

you just described 80 % of the us population
remember politicians came out of American homes and culture
and r voted in by Americans
thats why i will never vote cuz democrat or republic they all = the same 2 me


That not a very good reason not to vote. There are more candidates than Dems and Rep its a shame to waste the only power you really have...
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XemnasXD wrote:
Silver0 wrote:
StuckUP wrote:Do you think he is? If so explain if not then describe what a true leader is like.

I say no, George W. Bush is not a leader. He is weak minded and blindsighted. I cannot understand how someone born rich can be expected to lead a nation of people with different backgrounds. You can't be a leader unless you can relate and understand the people. And sadly George W. Bush cannot relate or understand.

you just described 80 % of the us population
remember politicians came out of American homes and culture
and r voted in by Americans
thats why i will never vote cuz democrat or republic they all = the same 2 me


That not a very good reason not to vote. There are more candidates than Dems and Rep its a shame to waste the only power you really have...

power lol you think any other party has a chance
voting doesnt change anything
no one cares about humanity and the ones that did where shoot or ridiculed
remember gore he won and still lost
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To the folks saying he's a puppet: Who's pulling the strings?
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Reise wrote:To the folks saying he's a puppet: Who's pulling the strings?


Yeah, I was wondering the same thing.

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