The Spear Hawk

blocklandmac · Post by **blocklandmac** » Mon Jun 12, 2006 4:32 pm

I'm sort of thinking about a "new" combination. The combo is Spearmanship, Bowmanship, and Lightning. It'll focus on dealing maximum damage every hit.

Your weapon will be a Spear or a Glaive. (Yes, they managed to spell that word wrong for every single Glaive in the game...) Stats are full Strength (Optional. I'm just suggesting this to increase your hit rate), and you'll probably want to keep your masteries at 0 until about level 8 when you have 200+ skill points. You can keep going if you'd like.

Now, always keep a bow with you. You're going to use the bow to call enemies into your range. That way, you can attack from afar, but retain your close range power. Once you get to level 10, get White Hawk Summon and Mind Concentration. Of course, don't forget to get lightning and spear skills too. The lightning imbue is the reason we chose that element, so you'll probably want that. Lightning shock decreases the enemy's parry stat. Less Parry = More Damage Taken.

Note: Your weapon should have the highest critical and maximum damage you can find. Keep upping your lightning imbue, hawk, and mind concentration. Everything else is just a sweet bonus... Especially Grass Walk: you'll probably want that just because it makes you look fast and powerful, which you are.

P.S. Why not use a bow? They have lower damage - period. Less minimum damage, less maximum damage. That's why you're just using it to damage an enemy from afar. Remember to switch when they get near! (Optional)

P.P.S <= (I just made that up.) Anyway, be creative! You can stick with a bow and use Grass Walk - Phantom to gain distance on the enemy. You can also use it to charge forward with your spear if the person/monster is using long range attacks.

BlindSpear · Post by **BlindSpear** » Mon Jun 12, 2006 4:52 pm

At level 31 glavies get Flying Dragon flow that is a ranged skill, so they dont need to use a bow.

About the parry reduce of the lighting:
- at PvE u will be killing to fast to see the diference (unless it is a giant)
- At PvP it will be dispelled before u can do the next hit

Ur build doenst have fire. For full STR chars u need the fire tree cauz it have buffs to increase the damage.

But was nice to see some1 trying something new

blocklandmac · Post by **blocklandmac** » Mon Jun 12, 2006 5:28 pm

Thanks for the tip, but some bow skills are very beneficial to character. (At least in my opinion...) I'm mainly talking about the hawk skills and the passive skill. =)

About fire... I think that's just a habit to everyone now. Full Strength characters do not need fire. =)

Bakemaster · Post by **Bakemaster** » Mon Jun 12, 2006 5:34 pm

Except that fire gives them a physical damage % buff and passive skill. Which is more useful than the possibility of lowered parry.

blocklandmac · Post by **blocklandmac** » Mon Jun 12, 2006 6:34 pm

It depends on how you look at it. =)

I would use lightning on mine because of the speed skills. Those things are really useful!

(Fire is okay too... It's just... different.)

Post by **dom** » Mon Jun 12, 2006 9:05 pm

blocklandmac wrote:It depends on how you look at it. =)

I would use lightning on mine because of the speed skills. Those things are really useful!

(Fire is okay too... It's just... different.)

You can use glaive/bow/fire/lightning.

Padawin · Post by **Padawin** » Mon Jun 12, 2006 11:19 pm

....which requires more sp

blocklandmac · Post by **blocklandmac** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:03 am

...and you can't do much more with your masteries once the level cap is raised. :roll:

Post by **dom** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:54 am

You can, just plan your character. You don't need super high lightning for just running.

You can do 90/90/90/30, or 90/90/88/32, or 90/90/60/60 etc. (Assuming by the time you get to 70 the cap is raised to 90, so covering 90.)

rad · Post by **rad** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 4:58 am

blocklandmac, which server are you on?^^

the combo you had in mind was what i had with one of my chars. i initially intended to use bow until i got an SOM Glaive drop one time and tried to use it.

i wanted to use bow since it improves attack rating and parry. i also love the fast long range attacks. i like glaive because it helps me attack several mobs at a time. quite useful when i'm doing trade runs. and yes, i used lightning since i wanted to improve my speed.

i tried to work some combos using both weaps and it works for me. i even have the white hawk while using glaive.

the only risk i'm worried about is that if i died a have a chance of dropping one of my good weaps.

blocklandmac · Post by **blocklandmac** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 5:45 am

I have about two characters on every server. My highest is only level 13, and I think we all know why.

Currently: Working on a full strength Swordsman, Spearman, Bowman, and Healer. Why? No clue, but it sounds fun as heck. I can use any weapon I find. (Level 6 with about 60+ skill points right now...)

Here's an edited version of the build in this topic with a different weapon:

Warlord
Skills: Swordsmanship, Bowmanship, Healing, (Element)*
Stats: Full Strength
Tactics: Use bow SKILLS to draw enemies in. The more damage you can deal without having to switch, the better. You may also want to use a Black Hawk for this build.

Pros: Fun. Unique. You won't die easily. Come on, you're like a perfect team leader! You can snipe, go close up, heal, and more!

Cons: High skillpoint requirement. Less focus than other builds.

*Although many people will suggest fire for a full strength build, I'm going to recommend Ice. Fire is good for pure damage dealers, but you're not a pure damage dealer. You're a skillful warrior that is adept in multiple areas of combat. Ice is perfect if you're going to use both a bow and a sword + shield. You will either kill the enemy before it gets to you, or kill it quickly if it does get to you. The hawk is just cool.

rad · Post by **rad** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 6:06 am

if i were using sword and shield, i'd go with fire too because of the fire-shield series. :wink:

RaiKiRii · Post by **RaiKiRii** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 11:35 am

lol why not just get lvl 20 in pacheon for the 2 levels of passive and the hawk

thats more than enough of an attack rating boost from my experience

Morraine · Post by **Morraine** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 11:49 am

Hi,

RaiKiRii wrote:lol why not just get lvl 20 in pacheon for the 2 levels of passive and the hawk

That's quite right! Any of my brethren/ sistren have at least L20 in Pacheon, Ice, Fire, Lightning and Force. It's not this much wasted SP, but the combined power of all this little passives/ buffs nicely adds up ;-)))

Have fun!

blocklandmac · Post by **blocklandmac** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 6:09 pm

Sure! 20 mastery will probably be fine. Some people may want the higher level bow and hawk skills, though.

voltis5 · Post by **voltis5** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 10:48 pm

i for one have passive for EVERYTHING excpet sword series. i have most of em at lvl 20 just to get the pasive skills. i know this migth be a waste of sp and mastery (right now im at 130/300) but thats why im farming even now at lvl 30 n(8lvl gap...yeah im crazy). im just trying diff. mix and match skills to see if they make a diff. on my char.

Does parry ratio and attcak rating cancel each other out? i heard that if my PR is higher than my AR i can reach max damage of my weap. phy attack and vise versa. if there's any truth to this? if there is which one am i better off keeping and lvling up?

PS. i ma glaive user btw with hawk

blocklandmac · Post by **blocklandmac** » Thu Jun 15, 2006 4:01 am

voltis5 wrote:i for one have passive for EVERYTHING excpet sword series. i have most of em at lvl 20 just to get the pasive skills. i know this migth be a waste of sp and mastery (right now im at 130/300) but thats why im farming even now at lvl 30 n(8lvl gap...yeah im crazy). im just trying diff. mix and match skills to see if they make a diff. on my char.

Does parry ratio and attcak rating cancel each other out? i heard that if my PR is higher than my AR i can reach max damage of my weap. phy attack and vise versa. if there's any truth to this? if there is which one am i better off keeping and lvling up?

PS. i ma glaive user btw with hawk

You're probably fine on the skill points, but putting points into so many masteries will not allow you to master very much in the end. (You don't need to, though.)

Parry gives an attacker less of a chance of striking maximum damage. Hit gives an attacker more of a chance of striking maximum damage.

The higher your parry, the less chances you have of taking maximum damage. The higher your hit rate, the better your chances of dealing maximum damage are. In PVP, you'll probably want some of both. (Unless you deal lots of damage or have lots of defense. Then you'd take your respective stat and focus more on it.)

voltis5 · Post by **voltis5** » Thu Jun 15, 2006 6:16 am

i though parry gives way for you to make max damage at mobs when lightning shocks takes place reducing thier parry value? im no tmuch into PVP just PVE. with that which one should i concentrate more as a full str user? PArry or Hit ratio?

blocklandmac · Post by **blocklandmac** » Thu Jun 15, 2006 6:46 am

voltis5 wrote:i though parry gives way for you to make max damage at mobs when lightning shocks takes place reducing thier parry value? im no tmuch into PVP just PVE. with that which one should i concentrate more as a full str user? PArry or Hit ratio?

Errr... You got it a bit mixed up there, but you also had a few correct thoughts. The higher the Parry stat, the harder it is to score maximum damage on that person/monster. Because lightning shock reduces parry, it makes it easier to score maximum damage on shocked enemies.

(For full strength, you'll want Hit Ratio.)

voltis5 · Post by **voltis5** » Thu Jun 15, 2006 3:47 pm

DAMN why can't i have both? :banghead:

what would happend if i have both passives at the same lvl?

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