What would you do if you owned 51% of JoyMax shares?

[Casey613]

There are bots & there are gold sellers, it's just not as out of control as it is here in iSRO.

[Foloroth]

hmm.. interesting.

1] give the GM's orders instead of telling them to ignore the problems[this is ALL encompasing, it deals with bots gold buyers and basic arseholes] [jm makes them pretend there is nothing wrong, and doesnt allow them to interact with players]
2] allow thme to interact with the players
3] initiate islam and islam areas
4] bring 9th+10th deg and 100 cap at christmas
5] decrease euro pot delay to 10 seconds like they did in ksro
6] give ksro islam and islam areas
7] give ksro 11th + 12th deg and 120 cap
8] increase the exp rate by 3x, and the sp rate by 5x [isro and ksro]
9] make it so pt members can only be within 5 lvls of ea in a share pt [forcing players to party with people thier lvl and not letting them pwrlvl]
10] data - base WIPE for isro. restart servers [isr] with 0 data, and close isro/ksro for 2 days, to implement above updates.
11] reopen isro and ksro, every1 in isro must start from scratch
12] not booted when cant connect due to server traffic
13] make sun drop .001% chance
14] increase item and gold drop by 2x
15] hire the srf, and sra mods/admins as gm [pay them thru paypal]
16] sue the gold selling ompanies
17] hire volounteer GM's
18] +1 ~ 4 = 100% success chance, +5 ~ + 215 = random [from .001% ~ 30% yes its between those percentages]
19] make more item mall items
20] make so item mall items can be bought with real ig gold
21] tweak the triangular conflict system [more info to be provided l8er]
22] last but not least, events seasonal and random events

EDIT:
@frites, GOLD BOTS [which make up almost 57%+ of the servers] DONT BUY SILK!! god some people nvr learn

People would start to like the game without botters thus having legit players buying more and more silk.

+1

Most of those are awesome, but some of them are too good for players, or too bad.If you wipe everything what about those who bought silk ? (yeah I guess just give them the amount they bought).



Oh and about banning turks\arabs whatever, I'd just ban from the iSRO version those who can't speak English, not nation based (by some test or something I don't really thought about it).

[borat2]

same thing as Joymax is currently doing totally nothing and just watch my bank account increase
in the same time try to hire more designers who can create more fancy silk items

examples:
the 4weeks gold ticket for pet and silver and premium that makes your pet have blues

for 130silk a riding pet you can use forever and release each month a new one

Suit your wolf can wear for 130 silk

and so on and on

[[AoW]ForLife]

I'd sell it.

[tedtwilliger]

I'd introduce devil wings

[UniQ]

nothing, ppl are stupid enough to pay for this shit, why should i change it?

[Hasbin]

Directly ban goldbotters, and post other botter's id + pass on official sro forums

[Casey613]

nothing, ppl are stupid enough to pay for this shit, why should i change it?

Because this game is an undiscovered gold mine, way more than it is now

[ShuQi]

Yea I would make sure 5 people got hired, just to ban botters.

[Krad_Red]

hmm.. interesting.

1] give the GM's orders instead of telling them to ignore the problems[this is ALL encompasing, it deals with bots gold buyers and basic arseholes] [jm makes them pretend there is nothing wrong, and doesnt allow them to interact with players]
2] allow thme to interact with the players
3] initiate islam and islam areas
4] bring 9th+10th deg and 100 cap at christmas
5] decrease euro pot delay to 10 seconds like they did in ksro
6] give ksro islam and islam areas
7] give ksro 11th + 12th deg and 120 cap
8] increase the exp rate by 3x, and the sp rate by 5x [isro and ksro]
9] make it so pt members can only be within 5 lvls of ea in a share pt [forcing players to party with people thier lvl and not letting them pwrlvl]
10] data - base WIPE for isro. restart servers [isr] with 0 data, and close isro/ksro for 2 days, to implement above updates.
11] reopen isro and ksro, every1 in isro must start from scratch
12] not booted when cant connect due to server traffic
13] make sun drop .001% chance
14] increase item and gold drop by 2x
15] hire the srf, and sra mods/admins as gm [pay them thru paypal]
16] sue the gold selling ompanies
17] hire volounteer GM's
18] +1 ~ 4 = 100% success chance, +5 ~ + 215 = random [from .001% ~ 30% yes its between those percentages]
19] make more item mall items
20] make so item mall items can be bought with real ig gold
21] tweak the triangular conflict system [more info to be provided l8er]
22] last but not least, events seasonal and random events

EDIT:
@frites, GOLD BOTS [which make up almost 57%+ of the servers] DONT BUY SILK!! god some people nvr learn

first off.. alot of that would piss off the people that DO buy silk [aka not the people that think everything about sro is wrong wrong wrong], secondly, plvling was implemented so that new players dont have to be so badly off when starting. And as far as mall items for gold, tell me, where the **** would you get the money to maintain the servers and "pay srf mods via paypal" ? Cuz, correct me if I'm mistaken, many sro players refuse to buy silk or cant cuz they are too young to own a credit card, and if implemented, the few that do buy silk with money will stop and just use gold. This would put you at 0.00, no money which would eventually lead you to shut down your services, which in the end, would be worse than it is now.

The way it is now, at least you have servers to play on, regardless of the traffic that haunts us all.

[raysisfenix]

i would ban all the arabs/turks/muslims

that would make you a racist.

[Azilius]

I think a lot of the suggestions are unrealistic, and would eventually bring the downfall of Sro.

I've considered the loss in money by banning bots and gold buyers alike, but I think that if Joymax truly banned bots on sight, and prevented gold buying, people might be encouraged to grind all the way to the cap and buy more silk. If the game actually was managed and kept clean it would obtain more users, get a better reputation and eventually make a lot more money than it is now..

I think the first thing to do would be to hire more staff, because with more people more jobs can be done. Secondly, I would work on the gold buying problem, I'm not sure if there is a legal way to shut the companies down but if there was I definitely would.

Not only until the game was truly fixed would I continue updating the game, because in my opinion the updates are just an excuse and Joymax is trying to make you forget about the bots and gold buyers for a little longer..

The problem is..if 95% of the game really does bot I think the chances of bankruptcy could be high if they actually got banned...

[Krad_Red]

I think a lot of the suggestions are unrealistic, and would eventually bring the downfall of Sro.

I've considered the loss in money by banning bots and gold buyers alike, but I think that if Joymax truly banned bots on sight, and prevented gold buying, people might be encouraged to grind all the way to the cap and buy more silk. If the game actually was managed and kept clean it would obtain more users, get a better reputation and eventually make a lot more money than it is now..

I think the first thing to do would be to hire more staff, because with more people more jobs can be done. Secondly, I would work on the gold buying problem, I'm not sure if there is a legal way to shut the companies down but if there was I definitely would.

Not only until the game was truly fixed would I continue updating the game, because in my opinion the updates are just an excuse and Joymax is trying to make you forget about the bots and gold buyers for a little longer..

The problem is..if 95% of the game really does bot I think the chances of bankruptcy could be high if they actually got banned...

You sounds as if you were running for President or something.

[Barotix]

hmm.. interesting.

1] give the GM's orders instead of telling them to ignore the problems[this is ALL encompasing, it deals with bots gold buyers and basic arseholes] [jm makes them pretend there is nothing wrong, and doesnt allow them to interact with players]
2] allow thme to interact with the players
3] initiate islam and islam areas
4] bring 9th+10th deg and 100 cap at christmas
5] decrease euro pot delay to 10 seconds like they did in ksro
6] give ksro islam and islam areas
7] give ksro 11th + 12th deg and 120 cap
8] increase the exp rate by 3x, and the sp rate by 5x [isro and ksro]
9] make it so pt members can only be within 5 lvls of ea in a share pt [forcing players to party with people thier lvl and not letting them pwrlvl]
10] data - base WIPE for isro. restart servers [isr] with 0 data, and close isro/ksro for 2 days, to implement above updates.
11] reopen isro and ksro, every1 in isro must start from scratch
12] not booted when cant connect due to server traffic
13] make sun drop .001% chance
14] increase item and gold drop by 2x
15] hire the srf, and sra mods/admins as gm [pay them thru paypal]
16] sue the gold selling ompanies
17] hire volounteer GM's
18] +1 ~ 4 = 100% success chance, +5 ~ + 215 = random [from .001% ~ 30% yes its between those percentages]
19] make more item mall items
20] make so item mall items can be bought with real ig gold
21] tweak the triangular conflict system [more info to be provided l8er]
22] last but not least, events seasonal and random events

EDIT:
@frites, GOLD BOTS [which make up almost 57%+ of the servers] DONT BUY SILK!! god some people nvr learn

first off.. alot of that would piss off the people that DO buy silk [aka not the people that think everything about sro is wrong wrong wrong], secondly, plvling was implemented so that new players dont have to be so badly off when starting. And as far as mall items for gold, tell me, where the **** would you get the money to maintain the servers and "pay srf mods via paypal" ? Cuz, correct me if I'm mistaken, many sro players refuse to buy silk or cant cuz they are too young to own a credit card, and if implemented, the few that do buy silk with money will stop and just use gold. This would put you at 0.00, no money which would eventually lead you to shut down your services, which in the end, would be worse than it is now.

The way it is now, at least you have servers to play on, regardless of the traffic that haunts us all.

@Krad_Red, lol so gold botters buy silk??, they refuse because JM does'nt give a shit so why should they? they will buy silk if their content playing the damned game


@azulis, that 95% you speak of is mostly goldbots! not actual player bots. updates are neccesary to distract the general public while real problems are delt with.

people who bot tend to be more addicted to isro than non botters. they want to cap so desperatly that they risk getting keylogged or pay a little on the side. ban em once or 10 times [w/e it takes], and guess what eventually they will actually try playing the game.

i will repeat my idea step by step in an understandable manner.
EDIT: big explanation!! [krad red had a few "complaints" minor stuff realy but i cant help but explain myself]

PART 1]
Ideas for ISRO and KSRO

before i start, any updates to isro will come slow because of companies who pay first to get said updates.

1] give the GM's orders
i] these orders are all encompasing, and can include a number of things from banning bots to actually hanging out with the players.
ii] atm the cali staff is low, i will hire 5 new people [GM's] thier work will be divided like so; two moniter the official forums. one deals with logging into servers and banning spam bots on the spot, the other two ban general nusiances such as; gold bots, player bots, crude players[to be defined], jerks [to be defined], and people who insult JM.
iii] GM's can initiate random events such as: summoning roc or super mangyangs XD

3] initiate islam and islam areas
i] although unreasonable the reason for this would be to distract the players whilst real problems are delt with
ii] this will give players a third choice in race and more overall areas to explore.


4] bring 9th+10th deg and 100 cap at christmas of 2008/07
i] christmas of 2008 for 1 reason, the main people who want 90 cap now, are the bots who play the game. these bots will be turned to legits after being banned a number of times. eventually they will realise getting banned constantly and going thru all the trouble to make a new acc and restart thier bot is just pointless. [if these players are 2 lazy 2 lvl, then their to lazy to try again and again to bot] eventually they'll get the idea no bots allowed

5] decrease euro pot delay to 10 seconds like they did in ksro [ since i own JM, that means i own ksro which means Isro is NOT my only focus, but the ideas are still made by korean designers]

6] give ksro islam and islam areas + heaven [120 cap area i think -_-]
i]this is just so ksro will be ahead

7] give ksro 11th + 12th deg and 120 cap
i] this is to match the new areas added.


8] increase the exp rate by 2x, and the sp rate by 3x [isro]
i] this is called westernization!! [dont wry capping will still be hard as fk]

9] make it so pt members can only be within 5 lvls of ea in a share pt [forcing players to party with people thier lvl and not letting them pwrlvl]

i] atm this may make no sense, but think about it for one second.
ii] this game is a party game [for all races, not just europe]
iii] its not a race to the top and shouldnt be treated as such, therefore to encourage community growth and party grinding this idea ^ wil be implemented.
iv] the guardian system will be tweaked in a way to make it actually worthwhile [50% exp increase for having a guardian, 10% exp inc for every aprentice you have in your academy]
v] this only applies to grinding parties NOT jobbing [come on thier jobbing FFS]
vi] up to 16 people in a share/share [ only applies to jobbing]
vii] this only applies to share/share [the within 5 lvls] wanna get pwrlvled well you wont get anything but lvls from it :p pwrlvl parties = share/dis

10] a data wipe is 2 extreme
11] ^ same as above

12] not booted when cant connect due to server traffic
i] this is just annoying, it doesnt prevent bots [it does the exact opposite and messes with legits]

13] make sun drop .001% chance

14] not neccesary inflation FTL!!

15] not neccesary
i] if i had to hire an srf mod it would be dango [he is quick to edit, lock , and report... qualities expected of a mod/GM] or fly [this dude is just ANTI - BOT!!!!!]

16] sue the gold selling ompanies
i] these bastards have been fing with my ToS for long enough its game time

17] hire volounteer GM's
i] volounteer GM's wont be paid [they will be given a 25% exp rate increase]
ii] volounteer GM's WONT be able to ban, they can mute, and report botters to real GM's

18] +1 ~ 4 = 100% success chance, +5 ~ + 215 = random [from .001% ~ 30% yes its between those percentages]
i] this is expected from an MMO
ii] applies to isro and ksro

19] make more item mall items
i] dude im MUTHA FING JM what'd you expect??

20] make so item mall items can be bought with real ig gold
i] although this worked in Ksro, and Csro i dont trust the isro community enough SRY GUYZ!!

21] tweak the triangular conflict system
tweakage for thieves:
i] a thief after robbing a caravan has a choice to either continue the trade run that he/she just robbed, or use teh scroll
[continuing the trade run will bring more money, but is VERY risky because of; other thieves, and hunters]
ii] can rob other thieves [ THIER THIEVES FFS]
iii] thieves have a bounty put on thier head for ea hunter/ trader they kill, and for ea trader they rob [the bounty can be anywhere from 10 gold up to 1bil] [1 bil being an extreme amount] the bounty disapates over time

Tweakage for hunters:
i] once a hunter is in a party he/she cant leave or be kicked UNTIL the trader sells his/her goods or if the hunter d/c
ii] hunters could be like bounty hunters, like a bounty could be put on a thieves head [after the thief robs a specific amount of traders] and the hunter would go to the hunter guild, and check which thief has a bounty on his/her head then go hunt him or her. when the thief is killed the bounty is cleared and the hunter collects the bounty.

Tweakage for traders:
i] i will have the designers more outpost and small towns, giving the traders more options
ii] scrap the star system [this is to encourage planned party caravan runs, that will be HUGE and effen exciting]

22] we already have seasonal events, but..
i] they will be made more like those you would find in an rpg

23] make the world bigger [this is just to make trades a lit longer, and to make the game seem even more like an epic journey ^^]

PART 2] Ideas for JM

1] sell licences for isro to turkey and south america
i] for some odd ass reason turks and south americans aren't liked [gotta keep the players happy...]

2] JM already makes a MASSIVE revenue just from selling yearly license to 4 different companies. so two more license wont hurt.
i] the money made from selling licences and updates alone is MORE than enough to support isro so dont bitch.

@krad_red, happy now? ^^

[Silver0]

i would ban all the arabs/turks/muslims

+1 and selll my stocks right after

[Krad_Red]

@krad_red, happy now? ^^[/b]

Not really, still sounds like a 10 year old saying "if i were a quadtrillionbillionmillionaire, this is what I'd do.." but alas, it's just a rant on what each individual would do. Personally, I've seen alot of things in the game that everyone else seems to overlook, Joymax actually put time and effort into what they have created. Which is why I feel upset that everyone criticizes them so harshly. I think that if you truly were placed in their shoes, then you would be in the same predicament. You know, if everyone stopped complaining about one thing [bots], then the staff could focus on everything else you request. Shit, if I were them, I woulda given up on iSRO a long time ago as well. You want all the bots banned, and at the same time you want them to make a bunch of pretty events for you, and you want them to do all this with money they may or may not have. Yes, they get money from licenses, yes they get money from item malls, but the thing is, they have 48209374982374 servers to maintain and pay for.

I dunno, just me I guess.

[Barotix]

@krad_red, happy now? ^^[/b]

Not really, still sounds like a 10 year old saying "if i were a quadtrillionbillionmillionaire, this is what I'd do.." but alas, it's just a rant on what each individual would do. Personally, I've seen alot of things in the game that everyone else seems to overlook, Joymax actually put time and effort into what they have created. Which is why I feel upset that everyone criticizes them so harshly. I think that if you truly were placed in their shoes, then you would be in the same predicament. You know, if everyone stopped complaining about one thing [bots], then the staff could focus on everything else you request. Shit, if I were them, I woulda given up on iSRO a long time ago as well. You want all the bots banned, and at the same time you want them to make a bunch of pretty events for you, and you want them to do all this with money they may or may not have. Yes, they get money from licenses, yes they get money from item malls, but the thing is, they have 48209374982374 servers to maintain and pay for.

I dunno, just me I guess.

they dont pay for chinese, taiwanese, vietnamese, or japanese servers.they get paid shitloads by the respective countries' company for rights and updates. players boycott JM because of what they consider their main problems. when joymax did that massive anti-bot move, so many legits came and said im gonna start buying silk again. 3 hours later, the first Tbot is rolled off the assembly line. 2 weeks l8er we're back 2 square 1. gold bots ksing and causing inflation, and hate of high lvl player bots is the main reasons players want them banned. ALL isro needs is 5 or more active [active as in i can C u in town and say hello der mr. GM] GM's, and watch the player bots drop dead, as well, as the gold bots "leave". im satisfied with this game, sadly im NOT the majority of players. i cant hate JM nor disrespect them i simply hate what their doing, afterall how can i hate the company that made one of the best free [its only free when im broke ] mmo's. everytime some1 makes a post like that ea, and every1 of my post are made because thats what the majority wants [no im not talking about gold botters ]
if you want a serious response to this topic, like EL Presidente de Americano, then i will give 1.

PS. when i like a topc i respong more than once >.>
EDIT coming soon:

[Driver]

1º Turn the ISRO = KSRO

2º Fired all the elements of the ISRO staff

3º That gm that have said "reports of hacked accounts = ban accounts." I would probably murder his family or something

3º TAKE AWAY the premium ticket

If I could done the ISRO=KSRO, no doubts that I would get money with the return of legits

[0_t_s_l_r_K_1_T_n_A]

i will banned all player who believe that jesus is god..

[OlHybrid]

I'd do my homework and check if 51% is enough to do anything.
No idea about Korea, but FYI in China don't think you are anyone special to them with less than 80% of the shares. Ok China takes the cake when it comes to bizarre business customs but still...

[ranger4life]

hmm.. interesting.

1] give the GM's orders instead of telling them to ignore the problems[this is ALL encompasing, it deals with bots gold buyers and basic arseholes] [jm makes them pretend there is nothing wrong, and doesnt allow them to interact with players]
2] allow thme to interact with the players
3] initiate islam and islam areas
4] bring 9th+10th deg and 100 cap at christmas
5] decrease euro pot delay to 10 seconds like they did in ksro
6] give ksro islam and islam areas
7] give ksro 11th + 12th deg and 120 cap
8] increase the exp rate by 3x, and the sp rate by 5x [isro and ksro]
9] make it so pt members can only be within 5 lvls of ea in a share pt [forcing players to party with people thier lvl and not letting them pwrlvl]
10] data - base WIPE for isro. restart servers [isr] with 0 data, and close isro/ksro for 2 days, to implement above updates.
11] reopen isro and ksro, every1 in isro must start from scratch
12] not booted when cant connect due to server traffic
13] make sun drop .001% chance
14] increase item and gold drop by 2x
15] hire the srf, and sra mods/admins as gm [pay them thru paypal]
16] sue the gold selling ompanies
17] hire volounteer GM's
18] +1 ~ 4 = 100% success chance, +5 ~ + 215 = random [from .001% ~ 30% yes its between those percentages]
19] make more item mall items
20] make so item mall items can be bought with real ig gold
21] tweak the triangular conflict system [more info to be provided l8er]
22] last but not least, events seasonal and random events

EDIT:
@frites, GOLD BOTS [which make up almost 57%+ of the servers] DONT BUY SILK!! god some people nvr learn

first off.. alot of that would piss off the people that DO buy silk [aka not the people that think everything about sro is wrong wrong wrong], secondly, plvling was implemented so that new players dont have to be so badly off when starting. And as far as mall items for gold, tell me, where the **** would you get the money to maintain the servers and "pay srf mods via paypal" ? Cuz, correct me if I'm mistaken, many sro players refuse to buy silk or cant cuz they are too young to own a credit card, and if implemented, the few that do buy silk with money will stop and just use gold. This would put you at 0.00, no money which would eventually lead you to shut down your services, which in the end, would be worse than it is now.

The way it is now, at least you have servers to play on, regardless of the traffic that haunts us all.

@Krad_Red, lol so gold botters buy silk??, they refuse because JM does'nt give a shit so why should they? they will buy silk if their content playing the damned game


@azulis, that 95% you speak of is mostly goldbots! not actual player bots. updates are neccesary to distract the general public while real problems are delt with.

people who bot tend to be more addicted to isro than non botters. they want to cap so desperatly that they risk getting keylogged or pay a little on the side. ban em once or 10 times [w/e it takes], and guess what eventually they will actually try playing the game.

i will repeat my idea step by step in an understandable manner.
EDIT: big explanation!! [krad red had a few "complaints" minor stuff realy but i cant help but explain myself]

PART 1]
Ideas for ISRO and KSRO

before i start, any updates to isro will come slow because of companies who pay first to get said updates.

1] give the GM's orders
i] these orders are all encompasing, and can include a number of things from banning bots to actually hanging out with the players.
ii] atm the cali staff is low, i will hire 5 new people [GM's] thier work will be divided like so; two moniter the official forums. one deals with logging into servers and banning spam bots on the spot, the other two ban general nusiances such as; gold bots, player bots, crude players[to be defined], jerks [to be defined], and people who insult JM.
iii] GM's can initiate random events such as: summoning roc or super mangyangs XD

3] initiate islam and islam areas
i] although unreasonable the reason for this would be to distract the players whilst real problems are delt with
ii] this will give players a third choice in race and more overall areas to explore.


4] bring 9th+10th deg and 100 cap at christmas of 2008/07
i] christmas of 2008 for 1 reason, the main people who want 90 cap now, are the bots who play the game. these bots will be turned to legits after being banned a number of times. eventually they will realise getting banned constantly and going thru all the trouble to make a new acc and restart thier bot is just pointless. [if these players are 2 lazy 2 lvl, then their to lazy to try again and again to bot] eventually they'll get the idea no bots allowed

5] decrease euro pot delay to 10 seconds like they did in ksro [ since i own JM, that means i own ksro which means Isro is NOT my only focus, but the ideas are still made by korean designers]

6] give ksro islam and islam areas + heaven [120 cap area i think -_-]
i]this is just so ksro will be ahead

7] give ksro 11th + 12th deg and 120 cap
i] this is to match the new areas added.


8] increase the exp rate by 2x, and the sp rate by 3x [isro]
i] this is called westernization!! [dont wry capping will still be hard as fk]

9] make it so pt members can only be within 5 lvls of ea in a share pt [forcing players to party with people thier lvl and not letting them pwrlvl]

i] atm this may make no sense, but think about it for one second.
ii] this game is a party game [for all races, not just europe]
iii] its not a race to the top and shouldnt be treated as such, therefore to encourage community growth and party grinding this idea ^ wil be implemented.
iv] the guardian system will be tweaked in a way to make it actually worthwhile [50% exp increase for having a guardian, 10% exp inc for every aprentice you have in your academy]
v] this only applies to grinding parties NOT jobbing [come on thier jobbing FFS]
vi] up to 16 people in a share/share [ only applies to jobbing]
vii] this only applies to share/share [the within 5 lvls] wanna get pwrlvled well you wont get anything but lvls from it :p pwrlvl parties = share/dis

10] a data wipe is 2 extreme
11] ^ same as above

12] not booted when cant connect due to server traffic
i] this is just annoying, it doesnt prevent bots [it does the exact opposite and messes with legits]

13] make sun drop .001% chance

14] not neccesary inflation FTL!!

15] not neccesary
i] if i had to hire an srf mod it would be dango [he is quick to edit, lock , and report... qualities expected of a mod/GM] or fly [this dude is just ANTI - BOT!!!!!]

16] sue the gold selling ompanies
i] these bastards have been fing with my ToS for long enough its game time

17] hire volounteer GM's
i] volounteer GM's wont be paid [they will be given a 25% exp rate increase]
ii] volounteer GM's WONT be able to ban, they can mute, and report botters to real GM's

18] +1 ~ 4 = 100% success chance, +5 ~ + 215 = random [from .001% ~ 30% yes its between those percentages]
i] this is expected from an MMO
ii] applies to isro and ksro

19] make more item mall items
i] dude im MUTHA FING JM what'd you expect??

20] make so item mall items can be bought with real ig gold
i] although this worked in Ksro, and Csro i dont trust the isro community enough SRY GUYZ!!

21] tweak the triangular conflict system
tweakage for thieves:
i] a thief after robbing a caravan has a choice to either continue the trade run that he/she just robbed, or use teh scroll
[continuing the trade run will bring more money, but is VERY risky because of; other thieves, and hunters]
ii] can rob other thieves [ THIER THIEVES FFS]
iii] thieves have a bounty put on thier head for ea hunter/ trader they kill, and for ea trader they rob [the bounty can be anywhere from 10 gold up to 1bil] [1 bil being an extreme amount] the bounty disapates over time

Tweakage for hunters:
i] once a hunter is in a party he/she cant leave or be kicked UNTIL the trader sells his/her goods or if the hunter d/c
ii] hunters could be like bounty hunters, like a bounty could be put on a thieves head [after the thief robs a specific amount of traders] and the hunter would go to the hunter guild, and check which thief has a bounty on his/her head then go hunt him or her. when the thief is killed the bounty is cleared and the hunter collects the bounty.

Tweakage for traders:
i] i will have the designers more outpost and small towns, giving the traders more options
ii] scrap the star system [this is to encourage planned party caravan runs, that will be HUGE and effen exciting]

22] we already have seasonal events, but..
i] they will be made more like those you would find in an rpg

23] make the world bigger [this is just to make trades a lit longer, and to make the game seem even more like an epic journey ^^]

PART 2] Ideas for JM

1] sell licences for isro to turkey and south america
i] for some odd ass reason turks and south americans aren't liked [gotta keep the players happy...]

2] JM already makes a MASSIVE revenue just from selling yearly license to 4 different companies. so two more license wont hurt.
i] the money made from selling licences and updates alone is MORE than enough to support isro so dont bitch.

@krad_red, happy now? ^^

i hope u guys know that this isnt really a real thing, this is just a "if", you sound like its serious xD

[Krad_Red]

hmm.. interesting.

1] give the GM's orders instead of telling them to ignore the problems[this is ALL encompasing, it deals with bots gold buyers and basic arseholes] [jm makes them pretend there is nothing wrong, and doesnt allow them to interact with players]
2] allow thme to interact with the players
3] initiate islam and islam areas
4] bring 9th+10th deg and 100 cap at christmas
5] decrease euro pot delay to 10 seconds like they did in ksro
6] give ksro islam and islam areas
7] give ksro 11th + 12th deg and 120 cap
8] increase the exp rate by 3x, and the sp rate by 5x [isro and ksro]
9] make it so pt members can only be within 5 lvls of ea in a share pt [forcing players to party with people thier lvl and not letting them pwrlvl]
10] data - base WIPE for isro. restart servers [isr] with 0 data, and close isro/ksro for 2 days, to implement above updates.
11] reopen isro and ksro, every1 in isro must start from scratch
12] not booted when cant connect due to server traffic
13] make sun drop .001% chance
14] increase item and gold drop by 2x
15] hire the srf, and sra mods/admins as gm [pay them thru paypal]
16] sue the gold selling ompanies
17] hire volounteer GM's
18] +1 ~ 4 = 100% success chance, +5 ~ + 215 = random [from .001% ~ 30% yes its between those percentages]
19] make more item mall items
20] make so item mall items can be bought with real ig gold
21] tweak the triangular conflict system [more info to be provided l8er]
22] last but not least, events seasonal and random events

EDIT:
@frites, GOLD BOTS [which make up almost 57%+ of the servers] DONT BUY SILK!! god some people nvr learn

first off.. alot of that would piss off the people that DO buy silk [aka not the people that think everything about sro is wrong wrong wrong], secondly, plvling was implemented so that new players dont have to be so badly off when starting. And as far as mall items for gold, tell me, where the **** would you get the money to maintain the servers and "pay srf mods via paypal" ? Cuz, correct me if I'm mistaken, many sro players refuse to buy silk or cant cuz they are too young to own a credit card, and if implemented, the few that do buy silk with money will stop and just use gold. This would put you at 0.00, no money which would eventually lead you to shut down your services, which in the end, would be worse than it is now.

The way it is now, at least you have servers to play on, regardless of the traffic that haunts us all.

@Krad_Red, lol so gold botters buy silk??, they refuse because JM does'nt give a shit so why should they? they will buy silk if their content playing the damned game


@azulis, that 95% you speak of is mostly goldbots! not actual player bots. updates are neccesary to distract the general public while real problems are delt with.

people who bot tend to be more addicted to isro than non botters. they want to cap so desperatly that they risk getting keylogged or pay a little on the side. ban em once or 10 times [w/e it takes], and guess what eventually they will actually try playing the game.

i will repeat my idea step by step in an understandable manner.
EDIT: big explanation!! [krad red had a few "complaints" minor stuff realy but i cant help but explain myself]

PART 1]
Ideas for ISRO and KSRO

before i start, any updates to isro will come slow because of companies who pay first to get said updates.

1] give the GM's orders
i] these orders are all encompasing, and can include a number of things from banning bots to actually hanging out with the players.
ii] atm the cali staff is low, i will hire 5 new people [GM's] thier work will be divided like so; two moniter the official forums. one deals with logging into servers and banning spam bots on the spot, the other two ban general nusiances such as; gold bots, player bots, crude players[to be defined], jerks [to be defined], and people who insult JM.
iii] GM's can initiate random events such as: summoning roc or super mangyangs XD

3] initiate islam and islam areas
i] although unreasonable the reason for this would be to distract the players whilst real problems are delt with
ii] this will give players a third choice in race and more overall areas to explore.


4] bring 9th+10th deg and 100 cap at christmas of 2008/07
i] christmas of 2008 for 1 reason, the main people who want 90 cap now, are the bots who play the game. these bots will be turned to legits after being banned a number of times. eventually they will realise getting banned constantly and going thru all the trouble to make a new acc and restart thier bot is just pointless. [if these players are 2 lazy 2 lvl, then their to lazy to try again and again to bot] eventually they'll get the idea no bots allowed

5] decrease euro pot delay to 10 seconds like they did in ksro [ since i own JM, that means i own ksro which means Isro is NOT my only focus, but the ideas are still made by korean designers]

6] give ksro islam and islam areas + heaven [120 cap area i think -_-]
i]this is just so ksro will be ahead

7] give ksro 11th + 12th deg and 120 cap
i] this is to match the new areas added.


8] increase the exp rate by 2x, and the sp rate by 3x [isro]
i] this is called westernization!! [dont wry capping will still be hard as fk]

9] make it so pt members can only be within 5 lvls of ea in a share pt [forcing players to party with people thier lvl and not letting them pwrlvl]

i] atm this may make no sense, but think about it for one second.
ii] this game is a party game [for all races, not just europe]
iii] its not a race to the top and shouldnt be treated as such, therefore to encourage community growth and party grinding this idea ^ wil be implemented.
iv] the guardian system will be tweaked in a way to make it actually worthwhile [50% exp increase for having a guardian, 10% exp inc for every aprentice you have in your academy]
v] this only applies to grinding parties NOT jobbing [come on thier jobbing FFS]
vi] up to 16 people in a share/share [ only applies to jobbing]
vii] this only applies to share/share [the within 5 lvls] wanna get pwrlvled well you wont get anything but lvls from it :p pwrlvl parties = share/dis

10] a data wipe is 2 extreme
11] ^ same as above

12] not booted when cant connect due to server traffic
i] this is just annoying, it doesnt prevent bots [it does the exact opposite and messes with legits]

13] make sun drop .001% chance

14] not neccesary inflation FTL!!

15] not neccesary
i] if i had to hire an srf mod it would be dango [he is quick to edit, lock , and report... qualities expected of a mod/GM] or fly [this dude is just ANTI - BOT!!!!!]

16] sue the gold selling ompanies
i] these bastards have been fing with my ToS for long enough its game time

17] hire volounteer GM's
i] volounteer GM's wont be paid [they will be given a 25% exp rate increase]
ii] volounteer GM's WONT be able to ban, they can mute, and report botters to real GM's

18] +1 ~ 4 = 100% success chance, +5 ~ + 215 = random [from .001% ~ 30% yes its between those percentages]
i] this is expected from an MMO
ii] applies to isro and ksro

19] make more item mall items
i] dude im MUTHA FING JM what'd you expect??

20] make so item mall items can be bought with real ig gold
i] although this worked in Ksro, and Csro i dont trust the isro community enough SRY GUYZ!!

21] tweak the triangular conflict system
tweakage for thieves:
i] a thief after robbing a caravan has a choice to either continue the trade run that he/she just robbed, or use teh scroll
[continuing the trade run will bring more money, but is VERY risky because of; other thieves, and hunters]
ii] can rob other thieves [ THIER THIEVES FFS]
iii] thieves have a bounty put on thier head for ea hunter/ trader they kill, and for ea trader they rob [the bounty can be anywhere from 10 gold up to 1bil] [1 bil being an extreme amount] the bounty disapates over time

Tweakage for hunters:
i] once a hunter is in a party he/she cant leave or be kicked UNTIL the trader sells his/her goods or if the hunter d/c
ii] hunters could be like bounty hunters, like a bounty could be put on a thieves head [after the thief robs a specific amount of traders] and the hunter would go to the hunter guild, and check which thief has a bounty on his/her head then go hunt him or her. when the thief is killed the bounty is cleared and the hunter collects the bounty.

Tweakage for traders:
i] i will have the designers more outpost and small towns, giving the traders more options
ii] scrap the star system [this is to encourage planned party caravan runs, that will be HUGE and effen exciting]

22] we already have seasonal events, but..
i] they will be made more like those you would find in an rpg

23] make the world bigger [this is just to make trades a lit longer, and to make the game seem even more like an epic journey ^^]

PART 2] Ideas for JM

1] sell licences for isro to turkey and south america
i] for some odd ass reason turks and south americans aren't liked [gotta keep the players happy...]

2] JM already makes a MASSIVE revenue just from selling yearly license to 4 different companies. so two more license wont hurt.
i] the money made from selling licences and updates alone is MORE than enough to support isro so dont bitch.

@krad_red, happy now? ^^

i hope u guys know that this isnt really a real thing, this is just a "if", you sound like its serious xD

I think you just wanted to be the ass to have the longest quote^^

but yeah, you're right, just a what if. ^___^

[Azilius]

@azulis, that 95% you speak of is mostly goldbots! not actual player bots. updates are neccesary to distract the general public while real problems are delt with.

people who bot tend to be more addicted to isro than non botters. they want to cap so desperatly that they risk getting keylogged or pay a little on the side. ban em once or 10 times [w/e it takes], and guess what eventually they will actually try playing the game.

I think that is a little bit of an exaggeration, I'd say maybe 40-50% max are gold bots. If you could have one thing done to SRO right now what would it be? More updates? I'd much rather have a problem addressed instead of an update which will only cause more problems. If they keep fueling the game it will only get worse, they need to fix the task at hand, instead of creating more and more problems.

I think assuming that people will actually play the game after they get banned is one of Joymax's main fears. The fact is, it's an assumption and putting the weight of the game on that one thing isn't smart. I think it's one of the main factors holding Joymax back. The game can't survive on the income from just the legit players, and if the majority of the botters that got banned did quit, the game would be over.

Seems like Joymax dug quite a big hole for themselves, and it's going to take a lot of work to get out, and even then the results might not be good.

[MyraSchr]

dont blame GMs, they do what they are told to do. blame higher ranking personel

thanks. well said.
^_^ V

[[SD]Frites]

hmm.. interesting.


EDIT:
@frites, GOLD BOTS [which make up almost 57%+ of the servers] DONT BUY SILK!! god some people nvr learn

People would start to like the game without botters thus having legit players buying more and more silk.

+1

how do you know that gold bots fill up 57% of the servers.

[HyorunmarouZ]

Srsly?

Not being racist ... but I'd try and find a distributor to host tSRO (Turk) and saSRO ( South-America ). Cause well yeah I'll stop or it'll get racist lol.


But yeah, I'd try and make a few more fractions of SRO. And get personal specifically hired to roam the game and sort shit out.

More a thing about culture than race. We all have our ways to interact with people and, most of the time, it's easier to keep acting the way we are used to, instead of being worried if others have problems with it.

I agree with you about more versions, but i'd say that they shouldn't ip ban them from the International. That way, those who want to be with people from other parts of the world can play the international, those who want to play with their country mates, play their version.

I'm sure that wouldn't work as good as it sounds but it doesn't hurt to dream.

OT:
I would offer a better customer service, in every language possible. Listen to what players have to say and try to get it for them (with the proper limits of course). They want bots out? Then ban them, as long as that sells more silk (which would probably do).

[sculi]

No bots = more legit player that wont be owned by bots
normall player will say why i should play a game that I would be pwn by bots , they will be always ahead , why botter i go play wow
and game without bots - its really nice game , i dont have to pay for it ,really nice game, hmm item mall i can buy funny things and fund servers, every1 have same chances to be good
And inscrease xp/sp rate now its horrible
More gms
more events
More security

[phulshof]

1. Start banning player bots; just a few high profile cases to begin with. As soon as people realize that botting will actually get you banned, most of them will stop their botting ways, and they'd lose very little in the money department by handling it this way. This was already visible after the Euro update when most botters were scared that JM would actually start banning botters, and they didn't return until it was clear that JM would not.

2. Start banning gold buyers; just a few high profile cases to begin with. As soon as people realize that buying gold will actually get you banned, most of them will stop buying gold. This will remove the need for gold farmers (since hardly anyone's buying) and town spammers (for the same reason), and they'd lose very little in the money department by handling it this way.

If they'd start with these, the amount of complaints and work would reduce by quite a lot, freeing up their time to start working on other things like new level caps, events, etc.

[n00bzZ]

I'd do that aswell.
Banning Turks is probably best idea ever

[imp3r10]

is joymax even pubicaly traded?