What the hell is wrong with you euros!? Seriously

[the_wicked]

w/e...i am a euro killer (str blader)

high hp + block and iron wall, + garms for wizards, i basically survive 2-3 hits from any euro rogue or wizard, while being able to KD and stab em to death

Warriors tend to piss me off, since they have 45 secs mega tank buffs =.=

[Nyte]

...This really isn't about euros. It's more about assholes that want to feel superior. It's like someone with a sun weapon 10 lvls lower 1 shotting you and calling you a noob because of it. The only difference is that the euro race gives many more people the ability to express their stupidity

Right Here .. Read the above .. The answer to all your complaints

Personally, i myself am a rogue but as VforVendetta has stated yea i try to use stealth as little as possible and only use it to kill assholes that are full of themselves

[Twist]

Casey has always something to say,and u Aby ur not much different (SPAM MUCH)

[CHIPS]

The problem tho, is if the euro do not kill your chinese guy in 4-5 hits, he already lost b/c that means your potions will keep you alive forever against him. You can just stand there for 30 minutes, and you will still be alive. So you just got to normal attack the euro until you eventually wears him out.

But I understand you point being that a particular euro player was acting like a child. Just forget about him. I am a euro, and I do not tease the people I killed. On the other hand, I never complain when other people kills me.

Rogues seems overpowered because they can both act as a tank (just attack normally) and act as a nuker (use desparate or extreme), although not at the same time. The problem tho is that the enemy cannot predict which mode the rogue will play as, specially when they stealth. This gives the rogues the advantage of surprise. But the actually ability wise, rogues are not that strong. They can not tank nearly as good as a warrior, or nuke nearly as hard as a wizard.

[DragonTalon]

Whats the difference between a euro coming out of the gate to 1-hit someone and a nuker coming out of the gate to 1 hit someone.

Capped Nukers cant one shot anyone their lvl in PVP unless they have full sun.... Wizards and rogues on the other hand just go buy something off the NPC, go to DW, and spam their WTFpwN moves and act like it was such a great victory. Yeah it sure is hard running up behind someone and pushing a button isnt it?

[Blitzkrieg]

who cares if they cheat in pvp, the point is that they camp yarkan 24/7, is just lame.
only when he spwns at the mages a chinese char gets the kill

[Jstar1]

make a shield char. from my experiences its the best way to counter one-shotters or powerful char.

a fully farmed blader can tank and with a good shield, you will decrese the number of crits the rogue can hit, therefore giving you more chances (and more time) to land a KD on the rogue. Use ghostwalk, KD, and then add a couple chains. Now the rogue is dead

[Disconn3cted]

ice blader can kill wizards and rogues....but nothing else really

[jabbers]

man theres ways to survive it even for chinese, the spear fan will give you 15 seconds time to kill a wizrd or two and you've got fire/ice walls to absorb their first (and most vital) attack. If you react fast enough you can survive, just try to plan ahead the games not really that unpredictable.

[Silkroad]

Q_Q ... cry more ?

[Krad_Red]

Also another thing.

There is this lvl 80 turk Wizard or whatever bla bla class. He waits in safe zone for his invisible buff, he puts it on, goes out and does 20k dmg on a random lvl 80 and runs back in safe to wait for invisible again.

The same lvl 80 turk dies in 1 lion shout.

Can anyone PLEASE tell me what is the fun of doing that?

Typical, unfinished mmos + children = pointless pvp. What do you expect?

Funny <.<

There's a 63 year old on Troy that made a Rouge and does the same shit.

It's not just the younger ones. It's anyone that is too afraid that they will get 1 skilled.

If you really wanna get around a rouge 1 hitting you, just put up even a Lv1 of the first book of ice wall. If you're spear/glavier, you just have to phantom to the rouge when they attack once, and sse/sss + gsm [or whatever combo of those skills you have at your level.]

And as for a wizzy nuke or a cleric offering, just put up a fire wall and snake storm

These two skills eliminate 1 hits

[Silkroad]

Also another thing.

There is this lvl 80 turk Wizard or whatever bla bla class. He waits in safe zone for his invisible buff, he puts it on, goes out and does 20k dmg on a random lvl 80 and runs back in safe to wait for invisible again.

The same lvl 80 turk dies in 1 lion shout.

Can anyone PLEASE tell me what is the fun of doing that?

Typical, unfinished mmos + children = pointless pvp. What do you expect?

Funny <.<

There's a 63 year old on Troy that made a Rouge and does the same shit.

It's not just the younger ones. It's anyone that is too afraid that they will get 1 skilled.

If you really wanna get around a rouge 1 hitting you, just put up even a Lv1 of the first book of ice wall. If you're spear/glavier, you just have to phantom to the rouge when they attack once, and sse/sss + gsm [or whatever combo of those skills you have at your level.]

And as for a wizzy nuke or a cleric offering, just put up a fire wall and snake storm

These two skills eliminate 1 hits

dude seriously WTF?

[larvs]

most of teh whiners eihter have not played euro, or have only gotten theri euros to level 20 and quit to go back to their pot freindly chinese chars.


point being, this forum, before euro, was still all about whining. only those lazy bastards whine on sun pvp'ers and high levels that camp TG.

[Embodiment]

You do know there is a Fire skill that gives you detect to stealth right? o_0 just learn it then use..and wait for rouges..it's worth leveling up and the sp whenever you can level it up do so. This game gives you all the skills to counter, those stealth/invis noobs no point in crying when you fail to use them.

[XemnasXD]

Whats the difference between a euro coming out of the gate to 1-hit someone and a nuker coming out of the gate to 1 hit someone.

Capped Nukers cant one shot anyone their lvl in PVP unless they have full sun.... Wizards and rogues on the other hand just go buy something off the NPC, go to DW, and spam their WTFpwN moves and act like it was such a great victory. Yeah it sure is hard running up behind someone and pushing a button isnt it?

i find it hard to believe that you were never 1-hit by a nuker. And im not talking about capped PvP im talking about the whole game. It doesn't start when you cap....When i was on my blader i got 1-hit by nukers of various lvls a couple times and everytime they lol'd @ me bragging about their amazing damage. I didn't rush out to SRF and decide to cry about it though.

This is a bunch of ppl mad that some 12 year old kid with a hard-on for SRO decide to pop out the gate and f*ck with them. Grow up. He's a euro its not like you can't gang-rape him cause i've seen chinese players do it b4 and then laugh about it. Your all being hypocrites and its really sad grow up and realize that if you can't handle some juvenile laughing at you over in-game PvP you have serious issues....

[strangelove]

What I believe to be the problem here is not being able to use strategies while in combat with rogues/ wizards.

I think people got so used to not using any real strategies before the European expansion and just spending immense amounts of gold on buying good gear to take a lot of hits. Having good gear has become irrelevant, and users are now 'forced' to use their brain to strategize in order to beat the European characters (most of the time), and this seems to frustrate the hell out of people.

I mean, a game that requires strategy? That's absurd! /sarcasm

But seriously, there are so many ways people can overcome being 1-shot by a rogue or a wizard, but people are looking at this issue the wrong way. Stop trying to improve your gear, thinking you're gonna tank a 25k hit- that's impossible, unless you have Reverse Oblation.

[MrFudge]

put up a wall against wiz or rogue and summon a horse against offering.

[Zero_Doom]

WTF, those crying bec euros owned you?!! I am a pure str rogue, I kill like 3 to 5 ppl before dying, just have to use my wits, so those ppl dying in 1 lion shout are noobs... Wizards can take 8 ppl 1 hit!!!

Using your wits? You mean the wall+invisible? It is cheap, but efficient, so I won't complain about it.

@thread creator: Dude, I don't want to deal with it. When your a euro, you get all makes and models of chinese attacking you. Don't matter what lvl they are, or what build. And then... when you beat them... they bitch cause your using Euro buffs. Well of course your using euro buffs, your a euro! I got bitched at cause I had my speed buff turned on and some nub was too dumb to read the buff. >.<

[Advancechao]

I can see a bunch of Chinese characters doing the same thing against the Europeans. Granted, stealth is pretty sweet but when I'm just sitting around in my cape, the same nuker likes to come and nuke me seventy times in a row. Don't people ever get tired of killing someone multiple times?
IMO Pvp for Euros is not very rewarding. Winning fast might sound fun but it's pretty boring when all you do is kill each other within five seconds. I am a Rogue and cape PVP has become very boring nowadays.

[Logik]

Its not that they are overpower its that Chinese chars are to weak

[DragonTalon]

Whats the difference between a euro coming out of the gate to 1-hit someone and a nuker coming out of the gate to 1 hit someone.

Capped Nukers cant one shot anyone their lvl in PVP unless they have full sun.... Wizards and rogues on the other hand just go buy something off the NPC, go to DW, and spam their WTFpwN moves and act like it was such a great victory. Yeah it sure is hard running up behind someone and pushing a button isnt it?

i find it hard to believe that you were never 1-hit by a nuker. And im not talking about capped PvP im talking about the whole game. It doesn't start when you cap....When i was on my blader i got 1-hit by nukers of various lvls a couple times and everytime they lol'd @ me bragging about their amazing damage. I didn't rush out to SRF and decide to cry about it though.

This is a bunch of ppl mad that some 12 year old kid with a hard-on for SRO decide to pop out the gate and f*ck with them. Grow up. He's a euro its not like you can't gang-rape him cause i've seen chinese players do it b4 and then laugh about it. Your all being hypocrites and its really sad grow up and realize that if you can't handle some juvenile laughing at you over in-game PvP you have serious issues....

Gang-raping is gay... Period... I mean i dunno about other chinese chars but i dont count Gang-raping as a kill since you're not actually killing you have help. But what pisses us off the most is that you euro's can solo just as well as us "SOLO oriented" chinese. I thought we specialized in one thing and you specialized in another but right now you guys are dominating both.

[Lixiae]

WTF, those crying bec euros owned you?!! I am a pure str rogue, I kill like 3 to 5 ppl before dying, just have to use my wits, so those ppl dying in 1 lion shout are noobs... Wizards can take 8 ppl 1 hit!!!

Thats what they were talking about

your lvl 3x ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOFLLLLL Im sure you own the server LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Lixiae]

Oh and I forgot, if I use ghost walk is to get distance, but they say "HAH RUN AWEY NOOB!", yet they use gay stealth and pz camp all the freaking time

juz like the "gay" snow shield, no skill is gay
wiz, rogue can 1 hit some 1 but be 1 hitted as well...learn that fire combustion skill and own wiz/rogue over and over again until they beg u to stop

Ha. Not too many fire nukers out there, ever think of that?

[Lixiae]

Also another thing.

There is this lvl 80 turk Wizard or whatever bla bla class. He waits in safe zone for his invisible buff, he puts it on, goes out and does 20k dmg on a random lvl 80 and runs back in safe to wait for invisible again.

The same lvl 80 turk dies in 1 lion shout.

Can anyone PLEASE tell me what is the fun of doing that?

It's what makes wizard fun. 1-hitting everyone and pissing everyone off kek And then doing it over and over again when the person talks shit and they usually do. But I'd trade the high damage for no pot delay any day... imo chinese are overpowered... maybe 3-5 second pot delay would make it even

You woudnt trade. If you would, youd have a chinese nuker.

[Lixiae]

...This really isn't about euros. It's more about assholes that want to feel superior. It's like someone with a sun weapon 10 lvls lower 1 shotting you and calling you a noob because of it. The only difference is that the euro race gives many more people the ability to express their stupidity, just like gold buying and CCFing allowed many kids to do the same using sun gear. I would like to see 70% of those kids earn their gold for that sun weapon. If you can't do it, it's obvious you don't deserve it, because doing it requires a little something something in that hollow object they call a head.

Truest thing ever posted on these forums. Bravo.

[XemnasXD]

Whats the difference between a euro coming out of the gate to 1-hit someone and a nuker coming out of the gate to 1 hit someone.

Capped Nukers cant one shot anyone their lvl in PVP unless they have full sun.... Wizards and rogues on the other hand just go buy something off the NPC, go to DW, and spam their WTFpwN moves and act like it was such a great victory. Yeah it sure is hard running up behind someone and pushing a button isnt it?

i find it hard to believe that you were never 1-hit by a nuker. And im not talking about capped PvP im talking about the whole game. It doesn't start when you cap....When i was on my blader i got 1-hit by nukers of various lvls a couple times and everytime they lol'd @ me bragging about their amazing damage. I didn't rush out to SRF and decide to cry about it though.

This is a bunch of ppl mad that some 12 year old kid with a hard-on for SRO decide to pop out the gate and f*ck with them. Grow up. He's a euro its not like you can't gang-rape him cause i've seen chinese players do it b4 and then laugh about it. Your all being hypocrites and its really sad grow up and realize that if you can't handle some juvenile laughing at you over in-game PvP you have serious issues....

Gang-raping is gay... Period... I mean i dunno about other chinese chars but i dont count Gang-raping as a kill since you're not actually killing you have help. But what pisses us off the most is that you euro's can solo just as well as us "SOLO oriented" chinese. I thought we specialized in one thing and you specialized in another but right now you guys are dominating both.

ok b4 you were complaining about gate popping now your complaining that euros can solo to easily. what exactly are you mad about again.

Besides solo grinding is hard for euros who don't have the right sub-class not to mentioned lvling takes alot longer. If you seem to think euros are so perfect and overpowered in every single way go make one....

[Lixiae]

Whats the difference between a euro coming out of the gate to 1-hit someone and a nuker coming out of the gate to 1 hit someone.

Capped Nukers cant one shot anyone their lvl in PVP unless they have full sun.... Wizards and rogues on the other hand just go buy something off the NPC, go to DW, and spam their WTFpwN moves and act like it was such a great victory. Yeah it sure is hard running up behind someone and pushing a button isnt it?

i find it hard to believe that you were never 1-hit by a nuker. And im not talking about capped PvP im talking about the whole game. It doesn't start when you cap....When i was on my blader i got 1-hit by nukers of various lvls a couple times and everytime they lol'd @ me bragging about their amazing damage. I didn't rush out to SRF and decide to cry about it though.

This is a bunch of ppl mad that some 12 year old kid with a hard-on for SRO decide to pop out the gate and f*ck with them. Grow up. He's a euro its not like you can't gang-rape him cause i've seen chinese players do it b4 and then laugh about it. Your all being hypocrites and its really sad grow up and realize that if you can't handle some juvenile laughing at you over in-game PvP you have serious issues....

Gang-raping is gay... Period... I mean i dunno about other chinese chars but i dont count Gang-raping as a kill since you're not actually killing you have help. But what pisses us off the most is that you euro's can solo just as well as us "SOLO oriented" chinese. I thought we specialized in one thing and you specialized in another but right now you guys are dominating both.

ok b4 you were complaining about gate popping now your complaining that euros can solo to easily. what exactly are you mad about again.

Besides solo grinding is hard for euros who don't have the right sub-class not to mentioned lvling takes alot longer. If you seem to think euros are so perfect and overpowered in every single way go make one....

So you really think euros arent overpowered when it comes to pvp?

[Krad_Red]

HOnestly, it's only annoying because most euro players dont play thier euro's far from Don safe zone.

It was the same for chinese builds before the European update. The same people did the same thing, "omg, my hp is 1k left!" -phantom to safezone- "JAJAJAJAJA JOO NOOBZORZ CANT KILL ME"

Kay, we get it, you're pro cuz you camp safe. Nice job.

That's just how it is. Complaining about euro's is the same as glaviers bitching about mana shield "omg!! no!! thats cheating dont do it!"

You know what? How about you take off 5k hp and then we'll talk about me taking off mana shield.

These things were implemented into the game by the designers to add a bit of spice to an otherwise bland recipe. Yes, Euros are annoying, yes you can 1 shot them, yes they can also 1 shot -you-. How about using your head and farming up the necessary skills in order to avoid losing?


And as far as the combustion series, almost useless against cross bow, cuz they have huge distance, they attack from farther away than this skill detects, and there are very few [on Troy anyway] dagger rouges.

[Foloroth]

Isn't there a skill line in fire that reveals people under stealth ?

[AkillerNXC]

Simplest way to fix it. Quit wasting pots pvping and go jobbing.