I can't decide(Euro High lvls come here)

BryaN · Post by **BryaN** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 10:14 am

I came to a conclusion that I am going to try an euro build because it just makes fun to be 1. But I'm not leaving or abanding my 7x nuker... I'm just gonna plvl myself a new char.

I will play my 7x nuker untill the premium runs out then I'm gonna start plvling a new char(still 20 days left) I also still got 76$ on paypal left so I'm going to buy a halloween set today before it runs out, since I can't buy Angel Wings. So I can also buy a premium for the new char when I'm plvling it.

It will either be a wizard or a rogue simply because I like beeing super powerfull. I thought bout a wizard because it can do massive dmg to every1, and a rogue because it can do middle dmg and still survive, and because both have the invisible skill. I currently already have a lvl 30 full farmed rogue but in my eyes the skills are abit boring compared to the wizard skills.

I also can't decide about what sub tree I should take, I thought bought Cleric because the bless skills and about bard because of move speed and noise. But I'm guessing there is a difference in that matter that when I take wizard it can better be bard and when I take a ruogue it can better be cleric so I can heal myself and with bard as a wizard I can run away fast.

So I'm asking for some opinions about HIGH lvl euro's that have experience in this I don't need advice from low lvls. :/ sry

Ty for the help.

EDIT: I wont abandon my 7x nuker ever. And somehow the poll wont let me add the last choice I entered Wizard + Bard

EDIT: Also I like the wizard robes more then rogues equips

EDIT: I'm asking for HIGH LVL Wizard pics now too ty.

Deacon · Post by **Deacon** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 10:19 am

Imo Roque Cleric..

( Xbow to grind.. )

Shigeki · Post by **Shigeki** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 10:31 am

Go with Rogue + Cleric =]

BryaN · Post by **BryaN** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 10:33 am

Don't just say "go with rogue or cleric"...... I don't know alot of those euros so I want explanation why not wizard...

Twist · Post by **Twist** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 10:35 am

BryaN wrote:Don't just say "go with rogue or cleric"...... I don't know alot of those euros so I want explanation why not wizard...

Go wizard or cleric if you want 1 shot every sun sob.lols
I mean u will feel teh secks when people see u and when sun players start running in safe zone seeing u 1hit everyone on way.

MrBow · Post by **MrBow** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 10:35 am

Go Wizard + Cleric if there are euro parties available >_>
Go Wizard + Bard if you're going to grind solo (moving march, noise)

Wizards are really powerful... but they can't survive as long as chinese pure ints..

Motivation:
You're the highest damage dealer on the silkroad. The skills look very good (especially the AoE ones). It's just fun to play with a wizard char

Jobbing
How about being invisible as a thief, and 1shotting some dummy trader than taking the loot? :twisted:

Shigeki · Post by **Shigeki** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 10:44 am

BryaN wrote:Don't just say "go with rogue or cleric"...... I don't know alot of those euros so I want explanation why not wizard...

Mainly cause the criticals + Cleric buffs.
The cleric buffs are just ownage... Level 80 healing one, um.. The one where it heals per second. Forgot the name, anyways with that buff + blessing + rogue = Practically invincible. The healing buff gives 5000 something hp per second. The blessing spell makes a huge difference also, I had people dealing 7k damage to me, and suddenly it changed to 200 after I got buffed with blessing when I was in the clerics party. The Xbow's long range is gigantic, giving you a huge advantage with job/pvp.
Wizards are good and all... but I'd say rogue + cleric would be much more fun than wizard + cleric. Sure they'll do gigantic damage at once, but I'm pretty sure you'd hate dying all the time, after cleric buffs run out, wizards will lose to rogues. Rogues on the other hand can switch from Xbow to dagger. There's many ways to defeat a player with rogue, like Xbow knockdown in close range. And switching to daggers and just crit the living hell out of the wizard, or you can always just stick with far range attacks. Wizards would have shorter range than rogues. There's always the old fashion stealth attack if you'd choose. Stealth + Dagger up to the wizard, and just whack him to death. Which isn't recommended if you can't kill the guy in one hit. Anyways, I think rogues/clerics will do better than wizards. It's you choice anyways.

IceCrash · Post by **IceCrash** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 11:27 am

Just go what everyone goes if it makes you feel better..
lol

BryaN · Post by **BryaN** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 12:14 pm

Post by **Stress** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 12:25 pm

Wizard/Warlock sounds good to me :>

gila89 · Post by **gila89** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 12:27 pm

If you take Rogue+Cleric you will have good defense good attk since Rogues have very high dmg and you will have defense buffs of Cleric ( there is 3 or 4 buffs you can use when you unequip Cleric Rod ) ... There is Bless, Holy Word, Recovery Divison and some more as I recall ... So you can take more dmg and you have good dmg ...

Than again if you look at Wizard+Cleric you will have enormous dmg since you know that most wizs can one hit every1 and adding to that you will have cleric defense buffs but, ONE thing I hate with wizz is that you have to relly on others ... Or you will lvl on mobs 3,4 even 5 lvls under yours and that sucks ... literrally you will have to run from Giants when they spawn ...

So at the end personally I am for Rogue/Cleric combination ... I have Warrior/Cleric and these Cleric buffs help a lot !

PS: I forgot to mention one thing ... Wizz/Cleric you can wear only Robe ... But with Rogue/Cleric you have option to chose to wear Robe or Light Armor which is big advantage IMO ...

0_t_s_l_r_K_1_T_n_A · Sun Nov 18, 2007 12:29 pm

ahaha so your realize that your pure int is a wasted of your time..

_Scarlett_ · Post by **_Scarlett_** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 12:41 pm

0_t_s_l_r_K_1_T_n_A wrote:ahaha so your realize that your pure int is a wasted of your time..

wasted of your time? '-,0

Spell Check 101, Please!

gila89 · Post by **gila89** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 12:49 pm

gila89 wrote:If you take Rogue+Cleric you will have good defense good attk since Rogues have very high dmg and you will have defense buffs of Cleric ( there is 3 or 4 buffs you can use when you unequip Cleric Rod ) ... There is Bless, Holy Word, Recovery Divison and some more as I recall ... So you can take more dmg and you have good dmg ...

Than again if you look at Wizard+Cleric you will have enormous dmg since you know that most wizs can one hit every1 and adding to that you will have cleric defense buffs but, ONE thing I hate with wizz is that you have to relly on others ... Or you will lvl on mobs 3,4 even 5 lvls under yours and that sucks ... literrally you will have to run from Giants when they spawn ...

So at the end personally I am for Rogue/Cleric combination ... I have Warrior/Cleric and these Cleric buffs help a lot !

PS: I forgot to mention one thing ... Wizz/Cleric you can wear only Robe ... But with Rogue/Cleric you have option to chose to wear Robe or Light Armor which is big advantage IMO ...

And I forgot to mention Build ... With my Warrior/Cleric I use Pure Str and it FTW ... If you go to Rogue/Cleric I suppose doing Pure Str is right option too

And if you still decide to go Wizzard/Cleric ofcourse Pure Int is the build xD

And I havent mentioned Wizzadr/Warlock but IMO it is TOTAL WASTE OF TIME ... On the other hand going for Wizzard/Bard is not a bad Idea ... You will have some buffs maybe not defensive as the Clerics but good like the buff that gives you speed or something like that ... I really dont know Bards skills

When I was at the begining with my Euro Warrior I was in dilema taking Cleric as a sub-class or Bard ... But I chose Cleric since ppl told me its best Sub-Class for Warrior and Rogue ...

BryaN · Post by **BryaN** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 12:49 pm

0_t_s_l_r_K_1_T_n_A wrote:ahaha so your realize that your pure int is a wasted of your time..

Can you please shut the **** up

MrBow · Post by **MrBow** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 2:40 pm

gila89 wrote:ONE thing I hate with wizz is that you have to relly on others ... Or you will lvl on mobs 3,4 even 5 lvls under yours and that sucks ... literrally you will have to run from Giants when they spawn ...

Not true.
With a 3 gap i manage to 1shot my own +1 level and my own level. No sox weapon just +3 :wink:

gila89 · Post by **gila89** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 2:57 pm

MrBow wrote:
gila89 wrote:ONE thing I hate with wizz is that you have to relly on others ... Or you will lvl on mobs 3,4 even 5 lvls under yours and that sucks ... literrally you will have to run from Giants when they spawn ...

Not true.
With a 3 gap i manage to 1shot my own +1 level and my own level. No sox weapon just +3

Well can you take on a giant ? Pt Giant ?

I can take it all the way to 3 lvls over mine ... It goes very slowly but I dont die ... And maybe your build is good ... Because most of the wizz I know on Mercury are lvling at 3 lvls or more lower than their

Snudge · Post by **Snudge** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 4:06 pm

Don't make the fault of going Wizard+bard. You'll be weak as shit. Go either Wizard/cleric or Rogue/cleric. Both will own their bard sub counterparts anytime.

MrBow · Post by **MrBow** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 4:23 pm

gila89 wrote:
MrBow wrote:
gila89 wrote:ONE thing I hate with wizz is that you have to relly on others ... Or you will lvl on mobs 3,4 even 5 lvls under yours and that sucks ... literrally you will have to run from Giants when they spawn ...

Not true.
With a 3 gap i manage to 1shot my own +1 level and my own level. No sox weapon just +3

Well can you take on a giant ? Pt Giant ?

No i can't take on a giant of my level. I usually wait till a bot attacks the giant, i pwn the bot in dealing damage and i get the kill / items.

Hey... something good about bots :wink:

Snudge · Post by **Snudge** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 4:26 pm

Hershey wrote:Umm Wizard+Cleric imo...

Buff up and then go tank people for 45 secs and just 1 hit everyone <3

Not much one-hitting without Life Control/Turnover on players your own level.

Oh, and a general tip on wizards for you if you're going Wiz, BryaN;

First 20 levels, only the ice and fire nuke. This will enable you to grind quickyl since when one finishes casting, the other's cooldown will be ready.

After 20; Take the Ice and Earth AoE nuke, and got AoE grinding on green monsters. Insane exp.

BryaN · Post by **BryaN** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 4:59 pm

Ty all and keep this topic going . Now I'm also asking for some high lvl wiz pics.

.AWAKE. · Post by **.AWAKE.** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 5:13 pm

rogue warrior for heavy armor...deal great dmg while tanking great dmg at the same time...

You_Dead_Yet · Post by **You_Dead_Yet** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 6:21 pm

picking a sub only to get an extra armor type is stupid, you get no buff from warrior tree that can be useful for a rogue. they all disappear when you switch weapon. And hm a rogue with heavy armor would get owned so bad in pvp against pure int, even without the dmg buff, would still get close to 1 shot = dead.

Imo the 2 best euro builds (the most effectives) are Rogue/Cleric and Warrior/Warlock. I guess Wiz/Cleric could work well too.

But i wouldnt switch my Rogue for a Wiz. Its so fun to pvp with daggers.

gila89 · Post by **gila89** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 6:43 pm

You_Dead_Yet wrote:picking a sub only to get an extra armor type is stupid, you get no buff from warrior tree that can be useful for a rogue. they all disappear when you switch weapon. And hm a rogue with heavy armor would get owned so bad in pvp against pure int, even without the dmg buff, would still get close to 1 shot = dead.

Imo the 2 best euro builds (the most effectives) are Rogue/Cleric and Warrior/Warlock. I guess Wiz/Cleric could work well too.

But i wouldnt switch my Rogue for a Wiz. Its so fun to pvp with daggers.

I have to disagree ... If you chose Warrior/Rogue its not only about getting new armor ... Its about getting new weapons ... If you go to SP Farm and have enough SP points you will be able to chose from One handed Two handed sword, Dagger, Crossbow and believe me it is a BIG advantage when you are able to change to Crossbow from One handed sword or etc. + you will own pretty much every Pure build ...

Switching weapons helps a lot when hunting unique too ...

And one question what skills buffs debuffs Warlock gives to Warrior ?!
IMO for either Warrior or Rogue best Sub-Class is Cleric ... eventually Bard but I am not sure about this ....

†erminal · Post by **†erminal** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 7:00 pm

Go Wizard/Cleric, I pvp a lot and see tons of sun 8d players having a hard time against that build, as they do crazy damage, then simply switch to their cleric gear and are unkillable and use the suicide skill

o_rly · Post by **o_rly** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 7:05 pm

Rogue/cleric - I don't really know <.< but rogue's dagger desperate is % based (max defense you can have is reduced by 75%) so not even bless spell will help you a lot. Just take cleric for the lvl 40 recovery division. With Xbow bless spell would be more useful though...

Wizard/Bard - No. It sucks, you may have moving speed and noise, but against party mobs or giants you're pretty much screwed unless you have a tank

Wizard/cleric - this one is very good, at level 40 you get recovery division which heals you every 5 seconds (too bad it only lasts 5 minutes, then you have to use it again), besides you can use bless spell at its full potential if you get attacked by giants/lots of party mobs. With recovery division you can tank party mobs your own level or even higher if you get the lightning knockback skill and fear. With this build you can certainly fight mobs higher than you and you can switch between light armor and robe.

My wizard is only lvl 51 atm so no pics for you >_> just take my word for it

edit: oh yeah and for pvp... with rogue you'll be able to kill anyone your level and even a bit higher, but you'll die in a few hits if attacked, pretty much the same with wizard but you'll get owned badly by xbow rogues :|

vibratory · Post by **vibratory** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 7:17 pm

go 1h sowrd+shield and warlock sub

http://youtube.com/watch?v=a39EVSfga1w

aazumak · Post by **aazumak** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 7:24 pm

rogue cleric ftw

im lvl 61 and can kill lvl 74 int with 1 hit(non crits), they r great, and at max i have 36 M range which is awsome

cleric is nice for the health and th other buffs, its also great for 8 people pt's

when i was lvl 58-60 i did 8 people pts in teh caves as a cleric, b/c i was cleric every1 went and fought stuff way above their lvls and we pwned, and i got massive exp, about = to being p lvled >.< and the pt was mostly chinese witha few euros' but i dont think it would matter

Zhang · Post by **Zhang** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 7:28 pm

people say Wizards die easily but you gotta play smart, idiots who try to solo giants and then come here and whine don't know how to play their character at all.

at higher levels with Cleric skill you will be able to use bless and recovery division, THEN you will be able to fight off giants and party mobs.

in a good party Wizards are total ownage, and they can solo really well too.

on my Wizard/Cleric i have a 9 gap and even with that i have no problems surviving and i'm having 100% more fun then on my Rogue/Warrior.

BryaN · Post by **BryaN** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 7:40 pm

vibratory wrote:go 1h sowrd+shield and warlock sub

http://youtube.com/watch?v=a39EVSfga1w

Did I state I wanted that build in any of my posts?

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