which armor?

Rockshmo · Post by **Rockshmo** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 11:33 pm

Well I've been grinding with Garments since level 1.. and what I'm wondering is would it be better to grind with Protectors so I still get that MP bonus but am able to take more damage?

Full int build by the way.. not sure if that matters.

Post by **dom** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 11:40 pm

Personally I don't like protectors because it doesn't do anything great. Not great physical def, magical def, running bonus or magical consumption bonus.

What it comes down to is your play style. Later on you will need to use armor as a pure int, that's sure. But ealy on, like 1x (like your sig says) it depends on play style. Personally, as a pure int I didn't have problems with using garments, however some people do.

Rockshmo · Post by **Rockshmo** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 11:49 pm

Hm.. I find it easier with protectors just for that little bit extra phy. AR.

Especially against those damn bandit archers.. I'd kill one and depending on whether or not they crit me I'd have pretty low health so I'd goto find a nice resting spot and quickly get picked off by a newly spawned archer in about the same spot.

I'll probably go with garments after the bulk of sp farming is done.. but for now it doesn't make much of a difference.. barely noticable in fact. Thanks for your opinion though dom.

Post by **dom** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 12:14 am

Yer, mid 1x the difference between def isn't that great. But all the numbers are exponential in SRF, the higher you get the bigger the difference.

whY-2G · Post by **whY-2G** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 12:38 am

full int should go for armour...but seein your onli 1x...it doesnt really matter what you pick atm...but later on you need to pick what you wanna go with...im full int sword & shield and im still goin with amour...even if i got a shield...that doesnt really help...esp when im full int (lack of HP XD) but its up toO you...

thekwong · Post by **thekwong** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 2:23 am

later on, if you can one shot everything, or kill everything before they touch you (with fire nuke) then you'll be ok with garmet.. its just less safe.

whY-2G · Post by **whY-2G** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 2:30 am

thekwong wrote:later on, if you can one shot everything, or kill everything before they touch you (with fire nuke) then you'll be ok with garmet.. its just less safe.

yes you can...but say...what if you got rushed by...say 6-8 NPC monsters...hittin a dammm lots of dmg on you (wearin garms) game over XD

makisquirrel · Post by **makisquirrel** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 7:26 am

whY-2G, your writing style has changed.

In a positive way!

whY-2G · Post by **whY-2G** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 8:42 am

makisquirrel wrote:whY-2G, your writing style has changed.

In a positive way!

yup i love you toO...hehehe...nah thanks =D

Post by **dom** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 12:06 pm

whY-2G wrote:
thekwong wrote:later on, if you can one shot everything, or kill everything before they touch you (with fire nuke) then you'll be ok with garmet.. its just less safe.

yes you can...but say...what if you got rushed by...say 6-8 NPC monsters...hittin a dammm lots of dmg on you (wearin garms) game over XD

You're pretty much owned in any armor with that situation.

antix · Post by **antix** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 12:14 pm

dom wrote:
whY-2G wrote:
thekwong wrote:later on, if you can one shot everything, or kill everything before they touch you (with fire nuke) then you'll be ok with garmet.. its just less safe.

yes you can...but say...what if you got rushed by...say 6-8 NPC monsters...hittin a dammm lots of dmg on you (wearin garms) game over XD

You're pretty much owned in any armor with that situation.

Yeah, pure int wernt really build for speed in an agro environment. If you get mobbed by 2 or 3 then you may just be dead depending on the level of the mobs you are fighting. It may not be so bad cus pure int train on things they can 1-hit, but still.

In my personal experience I had a little bit of trouble using garment, but all-in-all it was fine, just try not to get mobbed. What you should do (but I didnt) is turn into armor at the 6th or 7th degree sets. If you are having a lot of trouble you can do 5th degree, but it didnt make much of a differance to me. You could stay with garment forever if you wanted, but if you plan on playing in the caves you NEED armor or else you will get STALLOWNED!

whY-2G · Post by **whY-2G** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 12:17 pm

dom wrote:
whY-2G wrote:
thekwong wrote:later on, if you can one shot everything, or kill everything before they touch you (with fire nuke) then you'll be ok with garmet.. its just less safe.

yes you can...but say...what if you got rushed by...say 6-8 NPC monsters...hittin a dammm lots of dmg on you (wearin garms) game over XD

You're pretty much owned in any armor with that situation.

but at least you have a slight more chance toO survive wearin amour then say garms right...pot krazi3 =D

Post by **dom** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 1:22 pm

whY-2G wrote:
dom wrote:
whY-2G wrote:
thekwong wrote:later on, if you can one shot everything, or kill everything before they touch you (with fire nuke) then you'll be ok with garmet.. its just less safe.

yes you can...but say...what if you got rushed by...say 6-8 NPC monsters...hittin a dammm lots of dmg on you (wearin garms) game over XD

You're pretty much owned in any armor with that situation.

but at least you have a slight more chance toO survive wearin amour then say garms right...pot krazi3 =D

No. Have you ever played a nuker? If they can 2 hit kill you with garments, they can still 2 hit kill you with armor.

Padawin · Post by **Padawin** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 1:45 pm

dom wrote:No. Have you ever played a nuker? If they can 2 hit kill you with garments, they can still 2 hit kill you with armor.

im starting a nuker because i want to test how it does..... so this is an opinion, and havent tried it yet

but once the difference between garment and armor is huge (difference growing potentially as everything in this game) wouldnt armor really help ?

Post by **dom** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 1:48 pm

Sure it can block out a significant amount of damage, but at lower levels (30-40), if they can 2 hit kill you, they will still 2 hit kill you.

EG: You have 1,800 life.
2 hits with Armor: 1000 + 1000 = you're dead
2 hits with Garment: 1450 + 1450 = you're dead

Those numbers are no where near real, just using it as an example so you understand what I mean.

Padawin · Post by **Padawin** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 2:01 pm

i get what you mean.... we should go check defense values for different lvl sets, to see at what lvl the difference starts being A LOT

ShizKnight · Post by **ShizKnight** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 2:23 pm

The difference is a lot at 60-70.

whY-2G · Post by **whY-2G** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 3:39 pm

dom wrote:
whY-2G wrote:
dom wrote:
whY-2G wrote:
thekwong wrote:later on, if you can one shot everything, or kill everything before they touch you (with fire nuke) then you'll be ok with garmet.. its just less safe.

yes you can...but say...what if you got rushed by...say 6-8 NPC monsters...hittin a dammm lots of dmg on you (wearin garms) game over XD

You're pretty much owned in any armor with that situation.

but at least you have a slight more chance toO survive wearin amour then say garms right...pot krazi3 =D

No. Have you ever played a nuker? If they can 2 hit kill you with garments, they can still 2 hit kill you with armor.

not pVp...fightin only NPC monsters...unless they use nuk3s on you aswel...& i didnt know about that XD
i know that nuk3s can 1/2 hit kill you =D

Post by **dom** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 10:25 pm

wtf did you just attempt to say?

ShizKnight · Post by **ShizKnight** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 10:30 pm

In a nuker v nuker fight, its whoever gets the second hit first wins. Sometimes, its first hit wins.

whY-2G · Post by **whY-2G** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 11:13 pm

dom wrote:wtf did you just attempt to say?

i said that i know nukes can one hit killl you...but im talkin about NPC monsters...not pvp...and that amour can give you a lil more def then wearin garms when fightin NPC monsters...

Post by **dom** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 1:15 am

whY-2G wrote:
dom wrote:wtf did you just attempt to say?

i said that i know nukes can one hit killl you...but im talkin about NPC monsters...not pvp...and that amour can give you a lil more def then wearin garms when fightin NPC monsters...

I was also talking about Pv

whY-2G · Post by **whY-2G** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 10:17 am

dom wrote:
whY-2G wrote:
dom wrote:wtf did you just attempt to say?

i said that i know nukes can one hit killl you...but im talkin about NPC monsters...not pvp...and that amour can give you a lil more def then wearin garms when fightin NPC monsters...

I was also talking about Pv

i was talkin about just NPC monsters =D

shadoweye · Post by **shadoweye** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 8:40 pm

Rockshmo wrote:Well I've been grinding with Garments since level 1.. and what I'm wondering is would it be better to grind with Protectors so I still get that MP bonus but am able to take more damage?

Full int build by the way.. not sure if that matters.

id go w/ protector it gives beter protection and u still get the mp and speed bonus. if u feel ur taken 2 much damage mix and match armor and protector like 4 protector and 2 armor or some thing like that

whY-2G · Post by **whY-2G** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 9:08 pm

shadoweye wrote:
Rockshmo wrote:Well I've been grinding with Garments since level 1.. and what I'm wondering is would it be better to grind with Protectors so I still get that MP bonus but am able to take more damage?

Full int build by the way.. not sure if that matters.

id go w/ protector it gives beter protection and u still get the mp and speed bonus. if u feel ur taken 2 much damage mix and match armor and protector like 4 protector and 2 armor or some thing like that

but mix & matchin doesnt give you the extra bonus...so either go full protector or armor...

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