70 70 bow build

[marckillz91]

Hi all,

i was thinking,
is it possible that a 70 70 bower can crit even high like pure str bower?
if you have ice lightning pacheon, you do more dmg than pure str, with snow shield you got hp like god. you can use nukes for luring,
you have frost bitten and frost status with ice imbue. you got good phy def. from cold, and i think if i go in prot iam breakfast for nukers? and lion shout is very helpfull when you do strongbow + lion shout. But can it crit Like pure str?

And what is the best to wearing? Prots or Garms?

Are i breakfast for nukers if iam on prots?
They will die if i use strongbow and crit

[Puma60]

So many topics about this build

Prot is best for 70:70 Bow, nukes are optional, and i wouldnt suggest you getting Lion Shout because with all your other bow skills and nukes (If you want them) you will have so many skills, and it will take an age to farm to keep them maxed

[tomiotar]

Please, the longest post on this section is about this build. Read it first and you will check that most of your questions were already answered.

[Glavie's Girl]

Just to make sure you find it:

http://www.silkroadforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=24752

tomiotar, I think seeing the 40+ pages scares people away. lol

[marckillz91]

So many topics about this build

Prot is best for 70:70 Bow, nukes are optional, and i wouldnt suggest you getting Lion Shout because with all your other bow skills and nukes (If you want them) you will have so many skills, and it will take an age to farm to keep them maxed

So, if i use strongbow, and it does'nt crit, and it has 500 hp left, lets do antidevil lol i'll do lion shout its faster and does'nt cost a arrow.

dont look at sp that does'nt madder me

i'll gonna wear garms. When i get Knock down or Stunn stats on me, i'll walk away with ghost walk phanton. and if i can tank i dont run away.

[marckillz91]

Please, the longest post on this section is about this build. Read it first and you will check that most of your questions were already answered.

i can't find the crit process

somebody says it does'nt crit high i know that Isn't true!!

[glavie]

Please, the longest post on this section is about this build. Read it first and you will check that most of your questions were already answered.

i can't find the crit process

somebody says it does'nt crit high i know that Isn't true!!

Currently we don't have all the data for the crit situation. What we do know is that when a 70:70 crits, his damage increase is not as large as a pure str. However!!! 70:70 does more base damage with imbue.
End Result: A critical from a pure str and a hybrid will hit for very very close to the same amount.

You can basically look at it as:
Both builds have = crit damage
hybrid has higher non crit damage and sacrifices HP.

People might disagree with me, but they haven't proven me wrong.

[marckillz91]

Please, the longest post on this section is about this build. Read it first and you will check that most of your questions were already answered.

i can't find the crit process

somebody says it does'nt crit high i know that Isn't true!!

Currently we don't have all the data for the crit situation. What we do know is that when a 70:70 crits, his damage increase is not as large as a pure str. However!!! 70:70 does more base damage with imbue.
End Result: A critical from a pure str and a hybrid will hit for very very close to the same amount.

You can basically look at it as:
Both builds have = crit damage
hybrid has higher non crit damage and sacrifices HP.

People might disagree with me, but they haven't proven me wrong.

Curtenly, i think ur right.
Only, with snow shield hp from pure str is close with 80 80 hybrid.
and lol i dont buy gold
i am searching for cheap items and sell them for some more

ty

[Doctor_MOS]

and lol i dont buy gold

Wtf? *cough* *cough* ugh ugh...yeah ofcourse you don't
those 47m came out of nowhere

Just look at the 70:70 thread (something between page 36-40+ and you'll find almost everything you need.)

bout the critical, lot of discussion about

[elnawawi]

Please, the longest post on this section is about this build. Read it first and you will check that most of your questions were already answered.

i can't find the crit process

somebody says it does'nt crit high i know that Isn't true!!

Currently we don't have all the data for the crit situation. What we do know is that when a 70:70 crits, his damage increase is not as large as a pure str. However!!! 70:70 does more base damage with imbue.
End Result: A critical from a pure str and a hybrid will hit for very very close to the same amount.

You can basically look at it as:
Both builds have = crit damage
hybrid has higher non crit damage and sacrifices HP.

People might disagree with me, but they haven't proven me wrong.

I will tell you gooddata about the crit ...

First of all we already know that crit is an attack based on phy ...
To be accurate it's 2X phy damge you do with no crit ...
Just pick an str or hybrid or int build and go use weapon skills (without imbue) till you have crit and you will see that the damge go for 2 X at all cases ...

The point that make people say that hybrid do damge less than pure str that the phy base damge (which will be double when crit) is a lot higher if you are str build ... BUT they forget that 70:70 build have high mag attack that will add damge to the attack ..

Some of people already know that .. and know that the question is :
Is the mag damge from imbue is high enough to full the gap in phy*2 come from crit ?

No one has answered this question before .. But I will help you

Pure str bow when use auto attack + imbue in PVE (against monsters) his damge will be (65% from phy , 35% from mag) [Don't be shocked that's from real number for a naked pure str character lvl 32(94%:32% balance] ..
When he crit his damge will be (0.65*2 + 0.35) = 1.65 from his non-crit attack ...

70:70 hybrid when use auto attack + imbue in PVE his damge is (30% from phy , 70% from mag )
When he crit he will (0.30*2 + 0.70) = 1.3 from his non-crit damge ...

And to compare of these 2 values we need to know what's te multipile number in damge that 70:70 do higher than pure str (naked, and in the same lvl, with npc weapon ) ..

Say that pure STR do (X) damge , 70:70 do (Y) damge
And when crit it will be :
Cx = (0.65*2 + 0.35) X = 1.65 X
Cy = (0.30*2 + 0.70) Y = 1.30 Y

So if we said that crit from pure str and 70:70 will be the same (for example) ..
We should say that :
Cx = Cy
1.65 X = 1.30 Y
Y = 1.65/1.3 X = 1.27 X ..

That mean if 70:70 bow do 27% more damge than pure str bow in normal attack+imbue , they will both do the same damge when they crit ...

That's a result we can say for normal attack + imbue ... but when we use weapon skills the part of phy damge in overall damge will increase and part of mag damge will decrease .. and the formula will not be Cx= 1.65 X & Cy= 1.3 Y ... it may be Cx= 1.8 X , and Cy = 1.4 Y .. (I'm not sure I need to test this in the game) so we will need to calculate again ..

[marckillz91]

Please, the longest post on this section is about this build. Read it first and you will check that most of your questions were already answered.

i can't find the crit process

somebody says it does'nt crit high i know that Isn't true!!

Currently we don't have all the data for the crit situation. What we do know is that when a 70:70 crits, his damage increase is not as large as a pure str. However!!! 70:70 does more base damage with imbue.
End Result: A critical from a pure str and a hybrid will hit for very very close to the same amount.

You can basically look at it as:
Both builds have = crit damage
hybrid has higher non crit damage and sacrifices HP.

People might disagree with me, but they haven't proven me wrong.

I will tell you gooddata about the crit ...

First of all we already know that crit is an attack based on phy ...
To be accurate it's 2X phy damge you do with no crit ...
Just pick an str or hybrid or int build and go use weapon skills (without imbue) till you have crit and you will see that the damge go for 2 X at all cases ...

The point that make people say that hybrid do damge less than pure str that the phy base damge (which will be double when crit) is a lot higher if you are str build ... BUT they forget that 70:70 build have high mag attack that will add damge to the attack ..

Some of people already know that .. and know that the question is :
Is the mag damge from imbue is high enough to full the gap in phy*2 come from crit ?

No one has answered this question before .. But I will help you

Pure str bow when use auto attack + imbue in PVE (against monsters) his damge will be (65% from phy , 35% from mag) [Don't be shocked that's from real number for a naked pure str character lvl 32(94%:32% balance] ..
When he crit his damge will be (0.65*2 + 0.35) = 1.65 from his non-crit attack ...

70:70 hybrid when use auto attack + imbue in PVE his damge is (30% from phy , 70% from mag )
When he crit he will (0.30*2 + 0.70) = 1.3 from his non-crit damge ...

And to compare of these 2 values we need to know what's te multipile number in damge that 70:70 do higher than pure str (naked, and in the same lvl, with npc weapon ) ..

Say that pure STR do (X) damge , 70:70 do (Y) damge
And when crit it will be :
Cx = (0.65*2 + 0.35) X = 1.65 X
Cy = (0.30*2 + 0.70) Y = 1.30 Y

So if we said that crit from pure str and 70:70 will be the same (for example) ..
We should say that :
Cx = Cy
1.65 X = 1.30 Y
Y = 1.65/1.3 X = 1.27 X ..

That mean if 70:70 bow do 27% more damge than pure str bow in normal attack+imbue , they will both do the same damge when they crit ...

That's a result we can say for normal attack + imbue ... but when we use weapon skills the part of phy damge in overall damge will increase and part of mag damge will decrease .. and the formula will not be Cx= 1.65 X & Cy= 1.3 Y ... it may be Cx= 1.8 X , and Cy = 1.4 Y .. (I'm not sure I need to test this in the game) so we will need to calculate again ..

Ohh thats very nice,
so the 1 reason to be pure str is, more hp...
if the 70 70 bower take snow shield at 30% it does have a littlebit lesser HP!

w00t

thx 4 helping