The Necessity of Fire?

Laughing · Post by **Laughing** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 8:19 pm

So I'm wondering what your opinion would be. I'm a level 72 pure int s/s and I realized that the only fire skill I use is the buff (+magic defense, can't remember the name). The lightning nukes IMO are much better than the fire, and I don't want to see an entire skill tree filled with wasted SP.

I'm thinking of completely deleveling Fire and having 70 light/70 cold/70 bicheon.

What do you all think? Good idea or Blasphemy?

Adry^ · Post by **Adry^** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 8:41 pm

thats a good idea imo. fire only good nukers for a int are the 2nd & 3rd, and well.. lighting do more dmg if maxed.. :/.. ybut you will miss it, atleast i do :'(

kevv · Post by **kevv** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 9:07 pm

Adry^ wrote:thats a good idea imo. fire only good nukers for a int are the 2nd & 3rd, and well.. lighting do more dmg if maxed.. :/.. ybut you will miss it, atleast i do :'(

Thats incorrect, flame wave wide is the strongest nuke and fire imbue still does more damage. For the current cap it's still probably fine to have 80 fire but your gonna have to de-lvl it at 90 cap.

Manowar · Post by **Manowar** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 9:19 pm

You should be able to do just fine w/o fire as a pure int, esp if all your using fire for is the magic defense buff.

Adry^ · Post by **Adry^** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 1:21 pm

kevv wrote:
Adry^ wrote:thats a good idea imo. fire only good nukers for a int are the 2nd & 3rd, and well.. lighting do more dmg if maxed.. :/.. ybut you will miss it, atleast i do :'(

Thats incorrect, flame wave wide is the strongest nuke and fire imbue still does more damage. For the current cap it's still probably fine to have 80 fire but your gonna have to de-lvl it at 90 cap.

light nuke maxed can make more dmg than flame wave wide BUT flame wave wide is more balanced.. i mean, eg: light can make dmg from 7k till 9k, and then fire can make 8k till 8,5k. Hope you understand it :>, anyway at the 90 cap you would need light over fire so taking the would delvling will be hard enough..

Deacon · Post by **Deacon** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 1:41 pm

You won't be immume anymore.. A cold - blader/glavier/bower will kill you

juntakashi · Post by **juntakashi** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 2:39 pm

light 90, ice 90, force 90, bicheon 30
thats the "secret" ultimate owning s/s int build that is hotly discussed in cSRO right now (90 cap)
most cSRO players already agree that light nukes do more dmg than fire at cap...and more and more ppl are starting to get rid of fire...

force 90 i saw in posts is as gd as warlock's debuff, lowering enemy def, parry ratio etc while increasing ur mp etc.
not sure if iSRO 90 cap update will be exactly same as cSRO though

HakubiNi · Post by **HakubiNi** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 3:06 pm

Fire also can detect stealth to some extent, which is an invaluable skill for fighting against wizards and rogues.

imp3r10 · Post by **imp3r10** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 10:29 pm

so people are delvling a whole skill tree jsut because the last fire nuke isnt as strong

if you get rid of fire then you only have light nukes and the 2nd and 3rd light isnt enough IMO

ive seen at 100 cap that fire is back in

Manowar · Post by **Manowar** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 10:41 pm

Deacon wrote:You won't be immume anymore.. A cold - blader/glavier/bower will kill you

With a cleric anyone can be immune.

Deacon · Post by **Deacon** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 7:32 am

Manowar wrote:
Deacon wrote:You won't be immume anymore.. A cold - blader/glavier/bower will kill you

With a cleric anyone can be immune.

_WITH_ You ALWAYS will need someone else..

Firemouse · Post by **Firemouse** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 9:51 am

juntakashi wrote:light 90, ice 90, force 90, bicheon 30
thats the "secret" ultimate owning s/s int build that is hotly discussed in cSRO right now (90 cap)
most cSRO players already agree that light nukes do more dmg than fire at cap...and more and more ppl are starting to get rid of fire...

force 90 i saw in posts is as gd as warlock's debuff, lowering enemy def, parry ratio etc while increasing ur mp etc.
not sure if iSRO 90 cap update will be exactly same as cSRO though

lol, that sounds pretty crazy. not sure if I want to "experiment" on my nuker in the making though, any chance you can link some info or something on it?

Sauron · Post by **Sauron** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 12:05 pm

For a nuker, I would rather have constent damage so i like fire. Light can either hit high or low. btw fire has stronger nukes at 100cap. Why wont you be pure nuker for 90 cap, you can be 90 fire, 90 lightning, 90 ice and like 30 weapon. Then when the 100 cap comes out, you can choose which one you like better and delevel the other one.

juntakashi · Post by **juntakashi** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 4:03 pm

at 100cap

lol are we toking abt 2010?

lol, that sounds pretty crazy. not sure if I want to "experiment" on my nuker in the making though, any chance you can link some info or something on it?

ok i try to find the post and translate it... it gives detail explanation on force 90 and explains why fire should b given up

anyway glaive is considered weaker in 90 cap as there is no new skill and the dmg increase of all skills are not much compared to other weapon trees/nukes...but thats juz cSRO

Logik · Post by **Logik** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 6:16 pm

Deacon wrote:You won't be immume anymore.. A cold - blader/glavier/bower will kill you

PILLS?
why people care about been immune...

thats why theres pills...

and yes i think fire is useless, people just get fire cuz they say it does more dmg but meh

im still getting 80bicehon 80cold and 80light.

casqueda · Post by **casqueda** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 8:16 pm

Thats incorrect, flame wave wide is the strongest nuke and fire imbue still does more damage. For the current cap it's still probably fine to have 80 fire but your gonna have to de-lvl it at 90 cap.[/quote]

actually the cleric nuke is the strongest

Firemouse · Post by **Firemouse** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 12:11 am

casqueda wrote:Thats incorrect, flame wave wide is the strongest nuke and fire imbue still does more damage. For the current cap it's still probably fine to have 80 fire but your gonna have to de-lvl it at 90 cap.

De-lvl'ing from 80? I'd rather not have it at all, and wait for 90 cap honestly ><

XemnasXD · Post by **XemnasXD** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 12:37 am

i always thought fire had more STR benefits...

kevv · Post by **kevv** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 12:54 am

casqueda wrote:Thats incorrect, flame wave wide is the strongest nuke and fire imbue still does more damage. For the current cap it's still probably fine to have 80 fire but your gonna have to de-lvl it at 90 cap.

actually the cleric nuke is the strongest.[/quote]
Yes...because we're clearly talking about clerics.

Laughing · Post by **Laughing** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 1:13 am

Well, I completely de-leveled fire, brought Lightning up to 72, cold to 70, and heuksal to 60, and stayed with my s/s.

Unconventional, yes, but all I do nowadays is grind on hunters/snipers so the lightning nukes are perfect for me. Maybe later on when I do my sp farming I'll go to a 80 light/80 cold/80 fire/60 heuksal, and see how that goes.

darkmaster21 · Post by **darkmaster21** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 1:15 am

I would do Bicheon, Light, Ice.