Europe is annoying

xKingpinx · Post by **xKingpinx** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 6:55 am

hahah Exxnoraye owns posei

tedtwilliger · Post by **tedtwilliger** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 6:55 am

HakubiNi wrote:
Ichimaru420 wrote:I know what u mean it's kinda gay 2 go jobing when some lvl 72 bard/wizard kills u in 1 shot with the skill "offering"

Offering is a cleric skill, and incredibly easy to be stopped. Unless the cleric has wizard/rogue mastery to be invisible, he can be stopped very easily.

Warlock / cleric. 1st activate sleep, put enemy to sleep. Then activate offering. The other person will be farked.

Palisade · Post by **Palisade** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 7:02 am

I pretty much know who's legit and 70+ on most of the server, and will show them the respect they deserve. Kinda sad that I can honestly say thats probably less then 60 people that play at the same time I do.

If you bot and then cry about getting one shotted, then boo hoo, go bot enough sp to max fire combustion and make my job a bit harder.

My life is about getting one or two skilled, my goal is just to take out as many as I can before that happens lol. It's not that euro is annoying, it's the person behind the char thats annoying.

But I do feel where your coming from. A lvl 77 rogue wouldn't stop killing my 78 blader one day, and by the 4th kill(while I was either just standing there, or pvp'n someone else) I was like "I get the freakin point, u can kill me, now stop". =.=

elnawawi · Post by **elnawawi** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 7:06 am

lol .. what a noob topic here ...

Now euro is fact and real character , have some good side and other bad side ... it's not JoyMax problem that you are noob and don't know what to do against a rogue with HP less than you and phy & mag def less than you and just think that rogue make his damge and still pure str with tons of HP ..

Selan88 · Post by **Selan88** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 8:29 am

tedtwilliger wrote:
HakubiNi wrote:
Ichimaru420 wrote:I know what u mean it's kinda gay 2 go jobing when some lvl 72 bard/wizard kills u in 1 shot with the skill "offering"

Offering is a cleric skill, and incredibly easy to be stopped. Unless the cleric has wizard/rogue mastery to be invisible, he can be stopped very easily.

Warlock / cleric. 1st activate sleep, put enemy to sleep. Then activate offering. The other person will be farked.

use some spell that makes you immune to curses and he cant sleep you anymore... then kill him with your fist when he has 5% hp left while casting that spell.

elnawawi wrote: lol .. what a noob topic here ...

Now euro is fact and real character , have some good side and other bad side ... it's not JoyMax problem that you are noob and don't know what to do against a rogue with HP less than you and phy & mag def less than you and just think that rogue make his damge and still pure str with tons of HP ..

then pls enlighten us... what would you do against someone that uses stealth, has a higher range than you or any stealth detection skills and will oneshot you. and if its a dagger rogue he could still ambush and cancel dagger desperate to tank almost as good as any other pure str char.

VforVendetta · Post by **VforVendetta** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 9:31 am

Believe it or not I can 1 hit Lv 80 Nukers as 1h Sword Warrior too given the chance but its not like I will just randomly go up to one and do it because I can, I only PvP those who want a fair fight, although this isnt always given to me knowing many occasions where I am fighting against one Chinese character and 50 others jump me, no idea why.

I even ask the rest of my guild (PurePainCrew) to not just go around ganking people because they can.

Firemouse · Post by **Firemouse** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 9:34 am

VforVendetta wrote:Believe it or not I can 1 hit Lv 80 Nukers as 1h Sword Warrior too given the chance but its not like I will just randomly go up to one and do it because I can, I only PvP those who want a fair fight, although this isnt always given to me knowing many occasions where I am fighting against one Chinese character and 50 others jump me, no idea why.

I even ask the rest of my guild (PurePainCrew) to not just go around ganking people because they can.

thumbs up to you my friend.

bigbamboo · Post by **bigbamboo** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 12:39 pm

I got a lvl 79 pure ints/s nuker..I love my build,however if you plan to go on legitly its rather pointless,3 masterys u need to be able to even stand a chance against chinese,let alone Euro's..

So i start a rogue with cleric sub..Ultra damage with ultra defensive buffs especially BLESS..for 45 seconds you're literally like a blader with Ironwall shield on only alot more damage=) Euro is more balanced,cause its alot more about skill and tactic...SUN botters FTL..^^

HakubiNi · Post by **HakubiNi** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 3:45 pm

tedtwilliger wrote:
HakubiNi wrote:
Ichimaru420 wrote:I know what u mean it's kinda gay 2 go jobing when some lvl 72 bard/wizard kills u in 1 shot with the skill "offering"

Offering is a cleric skill, and incredibly easy to be stopped. Unless the cleric has wizard/rogue mastery to be invisible, he can be stopped very easily.

Warlock / cleric. 1st activate sleep, put enemy to sleep. Then activate offering. The other person will be farked.

NO SUBS!

And I don't see how Justice Cross would help me on PvP. If I was on a job war or guild war, last thing I'd do would be leaving the Safe Zone without a good reason.

elnawawi · Post by **elnawawi** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 5:40 pm

Selan88 wrote:
elnawawi wrote: lol .. what a noob topic here ...

Now euro is fact and real character , have some good side and other bad side ... it's not JoyMax problem that you are noob and don't know what to do against a rogue with HP less than you and phy & mag def less than you and just think that rogue make his damge and still pure str with tons of HP ..

then pls enlighten us... what would you do against someone that uses stealth, has a higher range than you or any stealth detection skills and will oneshot you. and if its a dagger rogue he could still ambush and cancel dagger desperate to tank almost as good as any other pure str char.

First of all I'm crossbow/cleric lvl 42 and love to own almost all chinese and euro characters lvls higher than me .. it's really very hard to catch a rogue before die .. but some pro ppl still doing well against my skills and here is how you can do : (although i shouldn't tell you my weakeness points so i will only tell you main headline and you can think about how to beat this )

First of all i'm crossbow that these 10 m detect will not work with me at most cases .. but if you know what to do you can let me walk in these 10 m and this is my end .. try to make your mind work to detect crossbower .. SRO isn't a press of : 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 and loop .. SRO is real strategy game now .. who don't use his mind die like a mangyang .. :wink:

Second : my sub mastery is cleric not bard .. and I wear light armor .. so you can guess how much speed i have .. you should learn how to use your light mastery well .. off course you will find rogue/bard who have speed more than you .. but remember that bard have no holy word :wink:

.. you need your mind again ..

Third : if you are pure int in garment i will 1 hit you without my crossbow extreme .. if you are in armor i need 2~3 hits to kill you or 1 crit to do the job .. the same as chinese bower do .. but chinese str bower can tank 400% better than me as he have 0.5 sec delay in pots while i have 15 sec :shock:

... your problem will be when i use my extreme bow .. with good weapon i will 1 hit you with my highest attack if you have normal set .. you need very good set to survive my first bolt .. or you can easily use snow shield 50% absorb .. you will need more than 2 hits to die ... off course you will die in 1 crit even in your snow shield with normal set .. but in the other side i have HP less than you and not good mag def nor phy def .. you will 1 hit my with any ranged skill you have .. that's not fair .. i can't 1 hit you in fully pimped set and you can 1 hit me in same set as you + you have snow shield

.. or you may be s/s and have that damn block .. what a weak build my crossbower :wink:

Ah I forget about my cleric mastery .. I will turn bless spell on and go with super def after you .. but for sry mt bless spell stay 45 sec and your snow shield stay 120 sec .. I hate JM they aren't fair enough to make balanced characters .. chinese own ..

But .. Why you cry from rogue while wizard will always 1 hit you as he do damge more than rogue specialywith your armor set .. and you are dreaming to think about 1 hit him as pure int in robe ... :shock:

W.T.F this wizard do ?! he is more dangerous than rogue and have invisible and have traps and do more damge and tank you better than me ?!

And why you ask about " how pure int survive against euro " ?!!!!!
We already know that pure chinese characters is weak enough .. all hybrid types can own them .. that was a thing only pro know before .. and after euro characters come every noob now must know that pure chinese character is the weakest choice and euro is the real character to be pure .. they designed to be pure ..

You should know that pure int nuke is too weak compared to all euro str and int characters and here that's why :

* Euro in damge VS chinese
- 1 H , 2 H . Axe , dagger , crossbow have more phy damge than glavie , blade and bow ... also staff , warlock rod , cleric rod , harb have more mag damge than spear and sword .. just go to the blacksmith in hotan and compare the base attack of all weapons and see ..

- rogue and warrior have passive increase phy attack more than the fire passive and fire buff .. also warlock, cleric, bard , wizard have passive increase mag def attack .... lvl 80 passive for euro give him 80% mag or phy attack .. lvl 80 light buff give 17% mag attack , lvl 80 fire passive give 8% phy attack and fire buff 9% phy attack (total 17%) ..

- rogue have buff that increase phy attack with 75% , wizard have buff that increase mag attack +25% .. chinese have nothing as this ..

- rogue have skill with bonus (+375%) , warrior have skill with bonus (+485%) , wizard have skill with (+435%) , bard have skill with (+365%)cleric have skill with (+967%) .. while chinese bow have 2 skills with (+350%) , and nuker have (+330%) only !!

These things make it easy to know that being pure character is nothing in chinese side .. you damge will be weaker than all builds .. even bard - cleric - 2 handed - 2 axes will do damge more than you .. and wizard - rogue - cleric (offering) will do about 2X ~ 3X damge better than you ..

A crossbower lvl 64 can ks Niya general gaint party from lvl 80 fully farmed nuker .. and lvl 72 can ks it from sun spear user .. but gaint party - 5 lvls than him can kill him too (in crossbow extreme)

Wizard lvl 72 can 1 hit lvl 80 nuker and be 1 hit from lvl 42 rogue crit or any 52 chinese str build ..

you sould realise tha and think about how to deal with it

MrFudge · Post by **MrFudge** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 5:44 pm

just get warriors to cast screens on you and you should have no prob ;.