Europe is annoying

[Jstar1]

thats why im making a blader

[SomebodyFromTheMass]

GL. Yet another win for Europe, because Euro chars get 20% more exp/sp than Chinese.

[IowU]

Pure INT chiniese
+mana shield
+hi dmg
+0,5s pot delay
+hi pdef
+best mdef
+s+s can tank 2 glaviers with 40%+ ms
-low hp
-weak against rogues

Pure STR rogue
+great dmg
+cool skills <- stealth duplicate
+strategic char can take down 1suner but sacrifice him self
-15s pot delay
-low mdef
-avarge pdef
-no grass walk
-weak against mobs
-die often due to low pdef mdef -> weak against any build
-cant job solo (as a thief cant take care caravan and protect from player hunters)

[s0017]

I like seeing Sun users get killed in 1-2 hits out of no where. Takes away that "unstoppable" title on them.

[GiGi]

euro is too strong!
crit me 10k + i am pretty much dead.
that's when u need euro buffers during the guild war and job war! bard, cleric, warrior and warlock.

[Sylhana]

Why u are so close minded?
rogue sacrifice his defense to hit so hard... 80lvl rogue got like 270pdef and 300mdef o0

Rogue sacrifices my ass. They drop phy def. Magical def, which is what I do, being that I'm an INT, don't.

Xbow rogues have comparable damage to a pure str chi archer. With xbow extreme, they obv get their damage higher, but at the cost of lowered phy, mag def and lowered max hp. So even being pure str, they can get killed easier with xbow extreme buff active.

[StuckUP]

Like everyone else - almost every Euro build is overpowered.I hate it

Wizards and rogues are damage powered and deadly to chinese, warlocks and warriors make a fair fight and bards and clerics are absolutely nothing when PvPing.

(subs unconsidered)

Lol warlocks are more than a match for pure int. based classes but an equal match for wizards. I mean have to you actually pvped using the raze skill book + Stun and Sleep & all those curses? Like I said warlocks are underestimated.

[torinchibi]

Like everyone else - almost every Euro build is overpowered.I hate it

Wizards and rogues are damage powered and deadly to chinese, warlocks and warriors make a fair fight and bards and clerics are absolutely nothing when PvPing.

(subs unconsidered)

You probably have not seen any bards or clerics PvP.... clerics tank more than chinese nukers with all their passives, buffs and auto heals and their damage is about as much as chinese nukers too, with the addition of that nice dmg spell, which is awesome when used at the right moment.

Bards cast faster than any other nuker class [excluding warlock debuffs], and can 2 hit int since they have spells with the wizard attack power without life control.


Also, chinese nukers ftl... they have become obsolete and after a high enough cap to limit ice shield, only ice nukers will be able to do anything in terms of survival.

With the increase of caps, it will only make euros mover overwhelming because chinese will have to leave off some of their masteries if they want to get new skills.


Oh yeah, for those who think wizards get 1 shot every time, try killing a lvl 80 wiz/cleric with pimped equips and farmed skills and rogues would be no different.

[DragonTalon]

Like everyone else - almost every Euro build is overpowered.I hate it

Wizards and rogues are damage powered and deadly to chinese, warlocks and warriors make a fair fight and bards and clerics are absolutely nothing when PvPing.

(subs unconsidered)

You probably have not seen any bards or clerics PvP.... clerics tank more than chinese nukers with all their passives, buffs and auto heals and their damage is about as much as chinese nukers too, with the addition of that nice dmg spell, which is awesome when used at the right moment.

Bards cast faster than any other nuker class [excluding warlock debuffs], and can 2 hit int since they have spells with the wizard attack power without life control.


Also, chinese nukers ftl... they have become obsolete and after a high enough cap to limit ice shield, only ice nukers will be able to do anything in terms of survival.
With the increase of caps, it will only make euros mover overwhelming because chinese will have to leave off some of their masteries if they want to get new skills.


Oh yeah, for those who think wizards get 1 shot every time, try killing a lvl 80 wiz/cleric with pimped equips and farmed skills and rogues would be no different.

You have no clue how much that paragraph made me feel like shit... To think that I spent all that time leveling up my nuker.... We got some sweet ass fireball skills and for what? To be blown out by some farked up, overpowered as holy hell, dagger stab that does 100k despite how crappy it looks? Im sorry if I sound mean but this is seriously how im feeling about the shittyness of this game ever since the euro update... There you go... I said it now flame away

[MooMooMoo]

its not anymore about who buy more gold and buy more sosuns!
its about having good party...

OMG +9 to that

[XemnasXD]

Why u are so close minded?
rogue sacrifice his defense to hit so hard... 80lvl rogue got like 270pdef and 300mdef o0

Rogue sacrifices my ass. They drop phy def. Magical def, which is what I do, being that I'm an INT, don't.

actually if yoru int you'll have high magical def and if your chinese you can wear armor to counteract that a bit.....if your rogue you'll have extremely low mag and phy and you'll mostly likely be wearing light armor which is only "Ok" stat wise for Phy and Mag Def.....stop b*tching about it theres a balance chinese can tank euros can't i don't see you ppl complaining about euros being overpowered when your nuking 2h warriors or Axe warriors.....

[DragonTalon]

Why u are so close minded?
rogue sacrifice his defense to hit so hard... 80lvl rogue got like 270pdef and 300mdef o0

Rogue sacrifices my ass. They drop phy def. Magical def, which is what I do, being that I'm an INT, don't.

actually if yoru int you'll have high magical def and if your chinese you can wear armor to counteract that a bit.....if your rogue you'll have extremely low mag and phy and you'll mostly likely be wearing light armor which is only "Ok" stat wise for Phy and Mag Def.....stop b*tching about it theres a balance chinese can tank euros can't i don't see you ppl complaining about euros being overpowered when your nuking 2h warriors or Axe warriors.....

Stop kidding yourself with this "Chinese can tank and euro's cant" bullshit... Go play a nuker and go fight a rogue. See if you're happy after you finish the battle

[HakubiNi]

You probably have not seen any bards or clerics PvP.... clerics tank more than chinese nukers with all their passives, buffs and auto heals and their damage is about as much as chinese nukers too, with the addition of that nice dmg spell, which is awesome when used at the right moment.

I see clerics PvPing all the time. :O

Maybe because I am one?

I don't doubt the tanking abilities of clerics, but it's no good if they get 2-shot. Also, they can't do any damage. Offering? Try casting that on a duel. Unless you catch your enemy by surprise (and are lucky enought to not be hit by any transfer meanwhile), you cannot cast Offering. My level 43 cleric cannot take more than 80 points of damage without having his spell interrupted. And don't come saying Trial Cross and Over Healing are good PvP skills, because they are NOT.

[imp3r10]

Like everyone else - almost every Euro build is overpowered.I hate it

+1


i dont care if they have 15 sec pot delay, its the exact same as no pot delay when you just 1 hit everything, too over compensated for

[darkmaster21]

In cSRO where they have the 90 cap/skills chi and euro are balanced, both have fair advantage because of tons of new chi skills.

[DragonTalon]

In cSRO where they have the 90 cap/skills chi and euro are balanced, both have fair advantage because of tons of new chi skills.

Well all hail the 90 cap... You just gave me some inspiration to look at the SRO icon on my desktop

[darkmaster21]

In cSRO where they have the 90 cap/skills chi and euro are balanced, both have fair advantage because of tons of new chi skills.

Well all hail the 90 cap... You just gave me some inspiration to look at the SRO icon on my desktop

^^

For all the nukers waiting for 90 cap:

http://www.silkroadforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=59266&highlight=

[DragonTalon]

In cSRO where they have the 90 cap/skills chi and euro are balanced, both have fair advantage because of tons of new chi skills.

Well all hail the 90 cap... You just gave me some inspiration to look at the SRO icon on my desktop

^^

For all the nukers waiting for 90 cap:

http://www.silkroadforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=59266&highlight=

Yeah I saw that awhile back. That new nuke better be good... The new nuke for the 80 cap sucked and I heard the light was better.

[GiGi]

if u want ur guild to be stronge. got to have euros in ur guild/union/alias.
they are badasses!

[darkmaster21]

In cSRO where they have the 90 cap/skills chi and euro are balanced, both have fair advantage because of tons of new chi skills.

Well all hail the 90 cap... You just gave me some inspiration to look at the SRO icon on my desktop

^^

For all the nukers waiting for 90 cap:

http://www.silkroadforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=59266&highlight=

Yeah I saw that awhile back. That new nuke better be good... The new nuke for the 80 cap sucked and I heard the light was better.

The lowest level monster I have seem my guild leader fight is penons and he would do about 70-80k dmg with zerk.

Before the skills update about 50-60k.

[John_Doe]

Use the force.

[CHIPS]

Bud, you are comparing the rogue 's critcal attack against your normal nuke. He hits your for 30k with crit means 15k with no crit. And if you had snow shield it will be 7.5k. I am sure you can nuke pass 15k damage on lvl 80s. The rogue can only out damage you if he criticals. Isn't this always the case? Full int always have high damage and cannot critical, while full str does lower damage, unless they critical?

What is really overpowered are warriors. Iron Skin + Mana Skin=God Mode WTF???

[torinchibi]

Like everyone else - almost every Euro build is overpowered.I hate it

Wizards and rogues are damage powered and deadly to chinese, warlocks and warriors make a fair fight and bards and clerics are absolutely nothing when PvPing.

(subs unconsidered)

You probably have not seen any bards or clerics PvP.... clerics tank more than chinese nukers with all their passives, buffs and auto heals and their damage is about as much as chinese nukers too, with the addition of that nice dmg spell, which is awesome when used at the right moment.

Bards cast faster than any other nuker class [excluding warlock debuffs], and can 2 hit int since they have spells with the wizard attack power without life control.


Also, chinese nukers ftl... they have become obsolete and after a high enough cap to limit ice shield, only ice nukers will be able to do anything in terms of survival.
With the increase of caps, it will only make euros mover overwhelming because chinese will have to leave off some of their masteries if they want to get new skills.


Oh yeah, for those who think wizards get 1 shot every time, try killing a lvl 80 wiz/cleric with pimped equips and farmed skills and rogues would be no different.

You have no clue how much that paragraph made me feel like shit... To think that I spent all that time leveling up my nuker.... We got some sweet ass fireball skills and for what? To be blown out by some farked up, overpowered as holy hell, dagger stab that does 100k despite how crappy it looks? Im sorry if I sound mean but this is seriously how im feeling about the shittyness of this game ever since the euro update... There you go... I said it now flame away

Sorry, I was simply stating the facts. I don't see anything stopping you from making a strong euro char... I got 65 in 2 months with only 8 days of premium... so with 2 months of premium you can easily be 72-80 and join the winning side, but you will probably cry cuz you get killed super fast then.

....and again, I don't see euros whining that they also get 1-2 hit in PvP because of lack of sox armors and long pot delay. Sure, i can 1 shot you, but you can 1 shot me as well....if I don't buff or use pimped equips or.....anyway, where is the problem in that?

You probably have not seen any bards or clerics PvP.... clerics tank more than chinese nukers with all their passives, buffs and auto heals and their damage is about as much as chinese nukers too, with the addition of that nice dmg spell, which is awesome when used at the right moment.

I see clerics PvPing all the time. :O

Maybe because I am one?

I don't doubt the tanking abilities of clerics, but it's no good if they get 2-shot. Also, they can't do any damage. Offering? Try casting that on a duel. Unless you catch your enemy by surprise (and are lucky enought to not be hit by any transfer meanwhile), you cannot cast Offering. My level 43 cleric cannot take more than 80 points of damage without having his spell interrupted. And don't come saying Trial Cross and Over Healing are good PvP skills, because they are NOT.

Wait for 60+, when you get justice cross so you can have a little more attack freedom. Plus, I am sure with your buffs and passives of the light armor and shield, and self healing every second and another self healing every 5 seconds, and bless spell.....you would be doing pretty well against any chinese...or even euro for that matter. You can find a way to use offering if you use it at the right time, I suggest using heaven flash to stop the opponent and cast after they use their long range skill, although it might be a problem for long range types.

Bud, you are comparing the rogue 's critcal attack against your normal nuke. He hits your for 30k with crit means 15k with no crit. And if you had snow shield it will be 7.5k. I am sure you can nuke pass 15k damage on lvl 80s. The rogue can only out damage you if he criticals. Isn't this always the case? Full int always have high damage and cannot critical, while full str does lower damage, unless they critical?

What is really overpowered are warriors. Iron Skin + Mana Skin=God Mode WTF???

Same as anyone with cleric class..... except better. But try Bless spell, skins and protects from another warrior..... now that's godmode... lvl 80's doing 30 dmg right there. Sun looks weak sauce compared to these 3 stacked. It should be fun watching 2 warriors+ 1 cleric teams in sieges, Super tanker manhandling.

[Sylhana]

The only thing I really hate about euro rogues is the "scorn" skill in cape pvp. Any rogue with that skill can just use it on someone 1on1 pvping and then run to safe zone. They must find it amusing cause they keep interupting pvps -.-.

[Aviator]

<3 u.

But yeah chinese nukers seem .. useless somehow? 90 cap should balance it out a little more, seeing as euro won't be getting many new skills at all, just upgrades.

Saw yesterday on Oasis a lvl 69 rogue crit a lvl 79 nuker for 11k ... Kinda sad and all. ANd tbh this goes against Joymax's standards.

Powerlevel from 1-80 is now easier than ever, more and more peopel are getting to 80 within a month WITOUT silk, the no silk part ... is such a rare thing for Joymax to do. Unless they totally nerf rogue's and wizrads for 90 cap so everyone has to reallocate hmmm.

Not only chinese nukers.. Even Pure str cant stand them
1 crit / 1 crit + hit and your dead too =/

If you are a nuker you should use snow shield magical defence doesn't help much

I know what u mean it's kinda gay 2 go jobing when some lvl 72 bard/wizard kills u in 1 shot with the skill "offering"

Offering is a cleric skill, and incredibly easy to be stopped. Unless the cleric has wizard/rogue mastery to be invisible, he can be stopped very easily.

lol to stop cleric from that you need a quick hit like lion shout cuz the cleric's hp will drop under %95 so ya

btw its veeery easy to kill a chinese if you are using ICE
if you are fighting a cleric, lion shout
if you are fighting a wizard, use shield defence(mag def. 450)
if fighting other classes like rogue, use frost 2 times

1st frost uses the pill
2nd one stays for a long time

then attack like hell to him
and hes dead

if you are against chinese, I guess you already know what to do right?

[eiseli22]

for the title, EU is annoying coz they own you? GG

[miladq88]

well maybe if you didnt suck so bad u wouldent have a problem haha im just kidding a lvl 67 zerk/ killed when i was 76 it was a cleric tho offering ftl

[DShadow]

Today a 64 Euro Rogue crit a 75 nuker and nearly one hit him remaining with about 50 HP left kinda sad after all that work huh?

[RockerFellow]

Well let's see how Islamic going to dominate SRO in future. Maybe Islamic is even more powerful, who knows ...

[Aura]

Well let's see how Islamic going to dominate SRO in future. Maybe Islamic is even more powerful, who knows ...

I SUMMON THIS MONSTER FROM THE LAMP
*crits you 500k at lvl80*