Botting became a habit ?

mahumps · Post by **mahumps** » Sat Oct 20, 2007 1:46 pm

i don't know but the time i started playing sro there were less bots than real player, that was ofcourse 19 months ago(athens was the newest server then). Since the 80 cap botting became a norm. You know what's our guild motto when pacific opened 2 months after 80 cap? it was "Grind against all odds".
Can u imagine i'm lvl 53 grinding beside yetis just waiting for one paticular heshade to spawn coz i can't find any spot to grind with bcoz all the heshade and ishade areas was infected with bots?
Then a week later i'm grinding penons when someone globaled saying "anyone hand grinding on ice pm me", so i pm'ed him, then the next global he made says "there were only 2 ppl pm'ed me and said they were hand grinding", WTF does that mean all the ppl besides me were botting?? :banghead:

YaNiv · Post by **YaNiv** » Sat Oct 20, 2007 1:57 pm

mahumps wrote:i don't know but the time i started playing sro there were less bots than real player, that was ofcourse 19 months ago(athens was the newest server then). Since the 80 cap botting became a norm. You know what's our guild motto when pacific opened 2 months after 80 cap? it was "Grind against all odds".
Can u imagine i'm lvl 53 grinding beside yetis just waiting for one paticular heshade to spawn coz i can't find any spot to grind with bcoz all the heshade and ishade areas was infected with bots?
Then a week later i'm grinding penons when someone globaled saying "anyone hand grinding on ice pm me", so i pm'ed him, then the next global he made says "there were only 2 ppl pm'ed me and said they were hand grinding", WTF does that mean all the ppl besides me were botting??

ehmm yea ???

Doctor_MOS · Post by **Doctor_MOS** » Sat Oct 20, 2007 2:11 pm

I get always very sad, when some friends of mine (all buying gold And/or botting) complain about the traffic

they are the main reason for it..

I think JM won't take any actions against bots anymore. They would loose hella lot of money becease most players/silkbuyers would quit if they couldn't bot anymore :cry:

. JM realized that there only problem was server traffic, SO LET'S MAKE PREMIUM TICKETS BABEH~!

*actually, i think im enjoying srf more then the game self*

YaNiv · Post by **YaNiv** » Sat Oct 20, 2007 2:20 pm

Doctor_MOS wrote:I get always very sad, when some friends of mine (all buying gold And/or botting) complain about the traffic they are the main reason for it..

I think JM won't take any actions against bots anymore. They would loose hella lot of money becease most players/silkbuyers would quit if they couldn't bot anymore . JM realized that there only problem was server traffic, SO LET'S MAKE PREMIUM TICKETS BABEH~!

*actually, i think im enjoying srf more then the game self*

Premium ticket sux it just shows how much JM wants money ><

and JM just made the login worst for legit players cuz u get the Confirmation Code on the first time u press "login" then u dc and need to restart SRO.

lets just say botters dont need to do a big parts of what legits need to do :roll:

Bumi · Post by **Bumi** » Sat Oct 20, 2007 2:30 pm

its too late joymax had a chance to change isro, but they didnt. they had a chance to make isro like 70 cap, but the didnt. they had a chance to make more revenue off this game than ever b4, but they didnt. Now they will have another chance to make things right, but have they let it get so bad that the problems are ireversable. NO! they havnt; because, they dont have to. why dont they have to, you, ask? well simple because the isro community [only a handfull of legits ] isnt worth it anymore. The bots run around everywhere, players buy gold [support gold bots] then complain about the server traffic they are causing; then, player bots bot 2 80 and make claims of legitamacy. ISRO HAS FALLEN FROM THE HIGHEST PEDESTAL!!

firefox6 · Post by **firefox6** » Sat Oct 20, 2007 2:35 pm

Alucardo wrote:Well U could have taken an SS and send it to joymax....Joymax will ban if they(botters) admit it.

i know they dont ban botters that admit it.. i have sent in S/S after S/S and videos and so on and still nothing gets done..

on alps they even bot with there sun on..

you know this game would kick any mmorpg ass if they fixed the problems.

YaNiv · Post by **YaNiv** » Sat Oct 20, 2007 2:37 pm

Bumi wrote:its too late joymax had a chance to change isro, but they didnt. they had a chance to make isro like 70 cap, but the didnt. they had a chance to make more revenue off this game than ever b4, but they didnt. Now they will have another chance to make things right, but have they let it get so bad that the problems are ireversable. NO! they havnt; because, they dont have to. why dont they have to, you, ask? well simple because the isro community [only a handfull of legits ] isnt worth it anymore. The bots run around everywhere, players buy gold [support gold bots] then complain about the server traffic they are causing; then, player bots bot 2 80 and make claims of legitamacy. ISRO HAS FALLEN FROM THE HIGHEST PEDESTAL!!

plz all stop whining about that, that botters complain about traffic !!! u cause the traffic as well its not 100% botters online. and those who are causing traffic are the clientless bots all those with names like dfgdfg, these r bots of the gold companys... after euro update there was no traffic but there were bots i can tell u that only when clientless bot was updated the traffic was back.

StacE · Post by **StacE** » Sat Oct 20, 2007 2:37 pm

My favorite was at a generals auto-share party.

Some guy asked if we could move the party (7 people excluding him) to another spot because "his bot doesn't work properly here."

My jaw dropped... lol, alot of botters really aren't afraid to admit it anymore. Where as it use to be an insult - it's now just actual fact.

Still hopin' one day the Joymax Prophecy will come true... I ain't holding my breath but, that's for sure.

YaNiv · Post by **YaNiv** » Sat Oct 20, 2007 2:38 pm

firefox6 wrote:
Alucardo wrote:Well U could have taken an SS and send it to joymax....Joymax will ban if they(botters) admit it.

i know they dont ban botters that admit it.. i have sent in S/S after S/S and videos and so on and still nothing gets done..

on alps they even bot with there sun on..

you know this game would kick any mmorpg ass if they fixed the problems.

If i make a screen shot saying in chat "I BOT" it wont get me banned. not such a problem editing pic to b like that.

kabuki · Post by **kabuki** » Sat Oct 20, 2007 2:39 pm

the turning point for botters to actually admit they bot was the day some botting guild used "being a legit player" as an insult to me and my guild after a war. haha. i thought that was really hilarious, then they left saying they need to go bot some more and how they are "cool" because they bot.

right.... :roll:

i also know of a certain player in greece that has been TRYING to convince legits to bot.... :banghead:

Bumi · Post by **Bumi** » Sat Oct 20, 2007 2:52 pm

YaNiv wrote:
Bumi wrote:its too late joymax had a chance to change isro, but they didnt. they had a chance to make isro like 70 cap, but the didnt. they had a chance to make more revenue off this game than ever b4, but they didnt. Now they will have another chance to make things right, but have they let it get so bad that the problems are ireversable. NO! they havnt; because, they dont have to. why dont they have to, you, ask? well simple because the isro community [only a handfull of legits ] isnt worth it anymore. The bots run around everywhere, players buy gold [support gold bots] then complain about the server traffic they are causing; then, player bots bot 2 80 and make claims of legitamacy. ISRO HAS FALLEN FROM THE HIGHEST PEDESTAL!!

plz all stop whining about that, that botters complain about traffic !!! u cause the traffic as well its not 100% botters online. and those who are causing traffic are the clientless bots all those with names like dfgdfg, these r bots of the gold companys... after euro update there was no traffic but there were bots i can tell u that only when clientless bot was updated the traffic was back.

you seem 2 have misread my post, i, clearly stated that the gold bots cause traffic:

players buy gold [support gold bots] then complain about the server traffic they are causing

they are causing the traffic [gold buyers] because they give the clientless gold bots the fuel they need 2 keep botting for gold.

u cause the traffic as well its not 100% botters online

i know its not 100% player bot.

the player bot - to player ratio is like 2:1
or 3:1

the gold bot 2 players in general [player bots, and handgrinders] is like 20:1. the problem as you stated is:

the clientless bots all those with names like dfgdfg

alas when bots are banned servers are populated and easy;so, maybe that puts things into perspective for you. player bots simply add wood to the fire that is ISRO, but they arent the bulk of that wood.

StuckUP · Post by **StuckUP** » Sat Oct 20, 2007 2:58 pm

Sylhana wrote:I made a char with the nick "iBOT" and running around handgrinding. Its lvl 40 now -.-. Never got a single pm of abuse from other players. I even globalled a few times. Nobody cares about this char, which is kinda sad how botting is becoming the norm and it shouldnt be.

Oft- hey Syl

Ont- Yes they do that, because every1 on bots, and they couldn't care less because to them it's very normal and whatever.

Barotix · Post by **Barotix** » Sat Oct 20, 2007 3:01 pm

Bumi wrote:
YaNiv wrote:
Bumi wrote:its too late joymax had a chance to change isro, but they didnt. they had a chance to make isro like 70 cap, but the didnt. they had a chance to make more revenue off this game than ever b4, but they didnt. Now they will have another chance to make things right, but have they let it get so bad that the problems are ireversable. NO! they havnt; because, they dont have to. why dont they have to, you, ask? well simple because the isro community [only a handfull of legits ] isnt worth it anymore. The bots run around everywhere, players buy gold [support gold bots] then complain about the server traffic they are causing; then, player bots bot 2 80 and make claims of legitamacy. ISRO HAS FALLEN FROM THE HIGHEST PEDESTAL!!

plz all stop whining about that, that botters complain about traffic !!! u cause the traffic as well its not 100% botters online. and those who are causing traffic are the clientless bots all those with names like dfgdfg, these r bots of the gold companys... after euro update there was no traffic but there were bots i can tell u that only when clientless bot was updated the traffic was back.

you seem 2 have misread my post, i, clearly stated that the gold bots cause traffic:
players buy gold [support gold bots] then complain about the server traffic they are causing
they are causing the traffic [gold buyers] because they give the clientless gold bots the fuel they need 2 keep botting for gold.

u cause the traffic as well its not 100% botters online

i know its not 100% player bot.
at low lvls the players - to player bot ratio is 4:1 [more players than player bots lvl 1 - 50ish]

the player bot - to player ratio is like 2:1[this ratio is 40 - 60+]
or 3:1 [this ratio is 40 - 60 +]

the gold bot 2 players in general [player bots, and handgrinders] is like 20:1. the problem as you stated is:
the clientless bots all those with names like dfgdfg
alas when bots are banned servers are populated and easy;so, maybe that puts things into perspective for you. player bots simply add wood to the fire that is ISRO, but they arent the bulk of that wood.

andrejat · Post by **andrejat** » Sat Oct 20, 2007 3:05 pm

StuckUP wrote:
Sylhana wrote:I made a char with the nick "iBOT" and running around handgrinding. Its lvl 40 now -.-. Never got a single pm of abuse from other players. I even globalled a few times. Nobody cares about this char, which is kinda sad how botting is becoming the norm and it shouldnt be.

Oft- hey Syl

Ont- Yes they do that, because every1 on bots, and they couldn't care less because to them it's very normal and whatever.

Yes, everyone also likes to drink and do drugs too!

I talk to a lot of players because I like getting involved with jobbing with all levels, and let me tell you, it's not "everyone bots" as you like to think it is.

StuckUP · Post by **StuckUP** » Sat Oct 20, 2007 3:10 pm

andrejat wrote:
StuckUP wrote:
Sylhana wrote:I made a char with the nick "iBOT" and running around handgrinding. Its lvl 40 now -.-. Never got a single pm of abuse from other players. I even globalled a few times. Nobody cares about this char, which is kinda sad how botting is becoming the norm and it shouldnt be.

Oft- hey Syl

Ont- Yes they do that, because every1 on bots, and they couldn't care less because to them it's very normal and whatever.

Yes, everyone also likes to drink and do drugs too!

I talk to a lot of players because I like getting involved with jobbing with all levels, and let me tell you, it's not "everyone bots" as you like to think it is.

I worded that wrong Lol. Mostly every1 bots and the ones that don't have lost all hopes so they don't have the spirit to send a threat because they know it's in vain.

killerkong · Post by **killerkong** » Sat Oct 20, 2007 3:26 pm

Every mmorg has its problems, not just SRO.

Even the almighty WoW has its problems, not as much as SRO. but its my choice to keep playing it and hanging out with my friends.

StuckUP · Post by **StuckUP** » Sat Oct 20, 2007 3:39 pm

killerkong wrote:Every mmorg has its problems, not just SRO.

Even the almighty WoW has its problems, not as much as SRO. but its my choice to keep playing it and hanging out with my friends.

not the new ones...yet. And Perfect World even has a report this person/report bot function :shock:

. SRO needs one of those

Doctor_MOS · Post by **Doctor_MOS** » Sat Oct 20, 2007 3:54 pm

StuckUP wrote:
killerkong wrote:Every mmorg has its problems, not just SRO.

Even the almighty WoW has its problems, not as much as SRO. but its my choice to keep playing it and hanging out with my friends.

not the new ones...yet. And Perfect World even has a report this person/report bot function . SRO needs one of those

yap, problem is it won't come

egyptology · Post by **egyptology** » Sat Oct 20, 2007 6:01 pm

No one cares about bots anymore. Accept it. All the older servers are full of lvl 80 chars not because people leveled to 80 by hand...but because they were botted.

Bots will never be banned; they purchase silk.

I believe that tSRO has an open bot server policy for one of its servers, and in another version of SRO I've heard Joymax sells gold. If Joymax sells gold and has an open bot policy, that would probably cure everything...except, no one would buy premium.

Mmm...a pickle indeed: catter to the 5 or 6 legits per server (SOME of whom MAY buy silk) or to the 400-500 player botters (all of whom are willing to buy silk since most are paying for their bots). From a buisness perspective, this isn't exactly a difficult choice.

PR0METHEUS · Post by **PR0METHEUS** » Sat Oct 20, 2007 6:20 pm

Yeah it's pretty sad how proud some people are of their bots. I've been in guilds where there were often 10 - 15 guildmates online all talking in guild chat about their bot and how "great" it is, blahblah...

I say, if you're not going to play the game, log off. Leave a slot for someone else that wants to play. People don't want to take the time to play a game that requires a LOT of time to play. Pick a different game. There are plenty out there.

GiGi · Post by **GiGi** » Sat Oct 20, 2007 6:32 pm

my friend made a character called it, GoldBot.
still around.
it like lvl 70 + now.
lol

GiGi · Post by **GiGi** » Sat Oct 20, 2007 6:35 pm

egyptology wrote:

No one cares about bots anymore. Accept it. All the older servers are full of lvl 80 chars not because people leveled to 80 by hand...but because they were botted.

Bots will never be banned; they purchase silk.

I believe that tSRO has an open bot server policy for one of its servers, and in another version of SRO I've heard Joymax sells gold. If Joymax sells gold and has an open bot policy, that would probably cure everything...except, no one would buy premium.

Mmm...a pickle indeed: catter to the 5 or 6 legits per server (SOME of whom MAY buy silk) or to the 400-500 player botters (all of whom are willing to buy silk since most are paying for their bots). From a buisness perspective, this isn't exactly a difficult choice.

lol
long as u are not afk when GM pmed u.
u r from Oasis.
u know Purified got banned.
he was lvl 80 and buy a lot silks.
he was afk when GM pmed him, next time he tried to log on. his acc got banned.

2nd, Bot has auto GM reply.
it works. lol

egyptology · Post by **egyptology** » Sat Oct 20, 2007 7:04 pm

No one cares about bots anymore. Accept it. All the older servers are full of lvl 80 chars not because people leveled to 80 by hand...but because they were botted.

Bots will never be banned; they purchase silk.

I believe that tSRO has an open bot server policy for one of its servers, and in another version of SRO I've heard Joymax sells gold. If Joymax sells gold and has an open bot policy, that would probably cure everything...except, no one would buy premium.

Mmm...a pickle indeed: catter to the 5 or 6 legits per server (SOME of whom MAY buy silk) or to the 400-500 player botters (all of whom are willing to buy silk since most are paying for their bots). From a buisness perspective, this isn't exactly a difficult choice.[/quote]
lol
long as u are not afk when GM pmed u.
u r from Oasis.
u know Purified got banned.
he was lvl 80 and buy a lot silks.
he was afk when GM pmed him, next time he tried to log on. his acc got banned.

2nd, Bot has auto GM reply.
it works. lol[/quote]

Purified was caught before the new bot policy (i.e. "We [Joymax] don't care, just buy silk")...he already has a new account and is high level...

I'm not sure about any other servers, but at least on Oasis, the GMs are never on...ever. There are NO bot bannings; I have seen afk botter there for days at a time. Maybe after the GNWCC (or whatever the name is) is over, we'll get a "mass banning" meaning a bunch of the gold bots would be banned. Player bots aren't really the people I blame for the crowded servers. Gold bots are...

Players bots can use one of three, iSRO, tbot, or softmod. The third one has multiclienting, but it's limited to two characters only. If you are caught cracking the client to be able to multiclient more then you are banned from using it. Unlike Joymax, they actually have an active ban policy.

Gold bots though, have 20-40 bots per computer (not 100s as some claim). The software is available for free if you can read Taiwanese. But...100 of these people mean a crowded server.

And...auto reply...does NOT work...if a player is afk and is pmed (if miraculously a GM is on the server and miraculously decides to do something and miraculously pms a player bot (which would be hard to find since there are so many gold bots >.>)) he will be banned for certain.

YaNiv · Post by **YaNiv** » Sat Oct 20, 2007 7:09 pm

GiGi wrote:
egyptology wrote:

No one cares about bots anymore. Accept it. All the older servers are full of lvl 80 chars not because people leveled to 80 by hand...but because they were botted.

Bots will never be banned; they purchase silk.

I believe that tSRO has an open bot server policy for one of its servers, and in another version of SRO I've heard Joymax sells gold. If Joymax sells gold and has an open bot policy, that would probably cure everything...except, no one would buy premium.

Mmm...a pickle indeed: catter to the 5 or 6 legits per server (SOME of whom MAY buy silk) or to the 400-500 player botters (all of whom are willing to buy silk since most are paying for their bots). From a buisness perspective, this isn't exactly a difficult choice.

lol
long as u are not afk when GM pmed u.
u r from Oasis.
u know Purified got banned.
he was lvl 80 and buy a lot silks.
he was afk when GM pmed him, next time he tried to log on. his acc got banned.

2nd, Bot has auto GM reply.
it works. lol

BULL$HIT
GMs dont pm to check if u bot thats BULLSHIT!
1st GM doesnt pm it doesnt look like whisper u can c it in notices every 2 days.
2nd mayb u r stalling?? and if not mayb u dont know english so u didnt reply, or u little bro is playin... GMs dont pm to check if u bot they check if u run illegal programs. u think all those massive ban lists were made by GMs pming every1?

Luoma · Post by **Luoma** » Sat Oct 20, 2007 7:14 pm

YaNiv wrote:BULL$HIT
GMs dont pm to check if u bot thats BULLSHIT!
1st GM doesnt pm it doesnt look like whisper u can c it in notices every 2 days.
2nd mayb u r stalling?? and if not mayb u dont know english so u didnt reply, or u little bro is playin... GMs dont pm to check if u bot they check if u run illegal programs. u think all those massive ban lists were made by GMs pming every1?

lol @ you

Spader · Post by **Spader** » Sat Oct 20, 2007 7:16 pm

Jadekiss wrote:Lol i just wonder if botting now became a habit ?
I met yesterday 3 ppl in my party and the are talking about how their bots work right now !
I just thought wth ? Then they ask me if i bot to get to lvl 47 (sig)
I say no and they said...wow its rare to see someone playing by his hand !
WTF ? It is so simple now to bot without getting banned ?
I also met some highlvler in thief party...and i ask them if they bot... what was the answer?
Of course they do !!! since they dont have much time LOL
omg.... pls tell me oyur opinion !

Wow, did you notice that now? Its rare to find people/guilds who dont bot. And i think they swck, all botters can kiss my @ss and get a life.

egyptology · Post by **egyptology** » Sat Oct 20, 2007 7:17 pm

No one cares about bots anymore. Accept it. All the older servers are full of lvl 80 chars not because people leveled to 80 by hand...but because they were botted.

Bots will never be banned; they purchase silk.

I believe that tSRO has an open bot server policy for one of its servers, and in another version of SRO I've heard Joymax sells gold. If Joymax sells gold and has an open bot policy, that would probably cure everything...except, no one would buy premium.

Mmm...a pickle indeed: catter to the 5 or 6 legits per server (SOME of whom MAY buy silk) or to the 400-500 player botters (all of whom are willing to buy silk since most are paying for their bots). From a buisness perspective, this isn't exactly a difficult choice.[/quote]
lol
long as u are not afk when GM pmed u.
u r from Oasis.
u know Purified got banned.
he was lvl 80 and buy a lot silks.
he was afk when GM pmed him, next time he tried to log on. his acc got banned.

2nd, Bot has auto GM reply.
it works. lol[/quote]

BULL$HIT
GMs dont pm to check if u bot thats BULLSHIT!
1st GM doesnt pm it doesnt look like whisper u can c it in notices every 2 days.
2nd mayb u r stalling?? and if not mayb u dont know english so u didnt reply, or u little bro is playin... GMs dont pm to check if u bot they check if u run illegal programs. u think all those massive ban lists were made by GMs pming every1?[/quote]

Look at the image above if you don't believe, but GMs pm to check, it's just that in addition to the pm you get a notice.

The mass bans are just accumulated. There's going to be a mass ban in probably another two months, hence no monthly bans. Furthermore, they don't look at "modified clients" or else all "legits" would have been banned a while ago since pk editing is a modified/corrupted client or at least should be seen that way.

GiGi · Post by **GiGi** » Sat Oct 20, 2007 9:39 pm

softmod can open 2+ now.
some guildmembers open like 3 or 4 clients.
">.>

xibeleli · Post by **xibeleli** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 3:34 am

yup botting is a habit my friends all do it :roll:

Hostage · Post by **Hostage** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 3:37 am

xibeleli wrote:yup botting is a habit my friends all do it

LOL! I see what your trying to do pretty smart =P
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