Stupid question but important...

[ts00n4mi]

I know its a stupid question that is asked very often but i have to ask it...

What do you think is the "best" build without sosun stuff...

Iam thinking about to make new char but i dont know if iam going to make a 80:80 Archer
or a 90% mag.balance hybrid int spear
or a 5:1 int spear...

What would you suggest?

atm iam playing a full int nuker @level 80

but its really hard for me to win against glaviers...

Hope you can give me a good answer...

ah and btw i have a level 30 full str archer farmed with 80k sp...should i stay pure with that or is it too late to switch?!

[glavie]

Best build for pvp?

What build are you currently?

Are you farmed?

Do you have snow shield? What lvl?

[ts00n4mi]

ok at the moment iam "fresh" level 80...
full int
fire @ level 80 full farmed
lightning @level 71 full farmed
ice @level 22
heuksal @67
bicheon@level 60


the reason was...before the new skills came i was dual weapon...but then i heard it shouldnt be that good...but i dont have the requirements to skill everything back...like money ingame or in rL...


and i mean best build in pvp and job wars...

[mios]

a pure str archer is in my point view the best build for pvp and jobiing cause of high crits, and a pure str will have hp to tank etc, so its good to crit 7-13k depends on wep

[Drunken]

pure str glavie. Got tons of hp and do tons of damage with or without critical. i always love not to die.

[glavie]

If you wanted to you could switch your bower to 80:80. It won't be 80:80 till around lvl 80 though. Any hybrid bow between pure str and 80:80 has been shown to be effective.

There is no question that if you could move your skills around your current character would be much better in pvp.

I have never played a pure int character but I personally would go a bit more hybrid on that spear user if you go that route. Around 80-85% naked balance.

I think that snow shield is a mandatory skill now. For anyone who isn't pure STR. One thing that people don't relize is that heavy hybrids, actually tank like pure STR with the shield running. For example I am an 80:80 bower lvl 63 with lvl 60 ice. I have just over 8k hp.(my gear is near maxed blues) 40% of my hp is 3200hp
This means I have an effective 11,200hp with the shield running. A pure str has like 1k more hp, but less magic defense than me. So it almost equals out.

[ts00n4mi]

so i should better make a 80:80archer than a full str?and its still possible at level 30...

well i just recognized that a naked balance of 80:80 isnt possible ...i always thought it is the naked balance...

[wolfster]

a 70:70/80:80 archer with 35% Snow Shield - Adept owns.
A dual weapon S/S - Spear can be good. But u need Bicheon 70-80 / Heuskal 80 / Light 80 and Ice 70-80. Like this guy click me

[Burningwolf]

Blader

[Aby]

ok at the moment iam "fresh" level 80...
full int
fire @ level 80 full farmed
lightning @level 71 full farmed
ice @level 22
heuksal @67
bicheon@level 60


the reason was...before the new skills came i was dual weapon...but then i heard it shouldnt be that good...but i dont have the requirements to skill everything back...like money ingame or in rL...


and i mean best build in pvp and job wars...

There's the reason you can't beat out glavies. Spend some time & Farm. Since you're full int, delvl bicheon as you need the HP from heuksal, OR alternately if you can find a rediculously high BR shield, do the opposite. Replace this matery with cold, and you'll be much better in PvP. Dealing with the 90 cap will be much easier as well.

For alternate build I'd say go 80:80 or full str bow, depending on if you want to PvM or PvP (respectively), since you've already been through the trials of Nuking, you'll probably end up getting bored at the lower levels.

[ts00n4mi]

so this 80:80 means with clothes on?right?i calculated it with naked balance and at level 80 i will have about 9k HP and the balance is 70:69

[PrincessChei2x]

im thinking, ur lvl 80 now, and still u dont know the answer of your question? im not flaming or making nonsense qoutes, it just made me think the other way around... even lvl 60x already knows the answer of youre question.


back @ topic:

delevel all youre fire skills

Make this build=> Bicheon, Lighning and Ice ( just use the ice shield) thats the best build for you, with Ice sheild ur godike. ( just make sure youre items are full blue and use garment)

[ts00n4mi]

yeah i know with level 80 i should know that
well i just concentrated on my full int and no other things...i never expected to make another build
i just cant understand why some people say 70:70 OR 80:80...i tried to make a 80:80 with the char build applet but i cant reach that balances...

[glavie]

Yes a 70:69 or 69:70 is what we refer to as a 70:70 build. We call it a 80:80 because if you put max str, and max int on your gear then your balances go up. Now you can do this in the calculator as well. So you wear 10 items with 5 str and int on each. Once you enter that into the calculator your balances will be around 80:80. The hp is not exact but very close to in game.

Every character should have max int and str on there build not just hybrids.

[ts00n4mi]

which calculator do YOU mean?i just know one...

[JohnPayne]

I agree with the 80%/80% bow hybrid. If you want to have a character that can kill nearly everything without to have sosun stuff, then choose that. A full pimped level 80 bow hybrid like that reach the damage of a full pimped pure str bow character with sosun+5 bow. Think about that. If you should have a sosun bow as a 80/80 hybrid bower...
You can go to 80/80 spear hybrid too, but a bow can deal more damage in time, is easier to level and seems to be able to stay longer alive. The backstep skill of bow seem to work every time.


LVL 80 - 80/80 BOW:

Naked:
203 STR / 232 INT
72% phy. / 66% mag.
HP: 9703

Full pimped:
258 STR / 287 INT
82% phy. / 82% mag.
HP: 13531 (highest hp you reach with that built, without heuksal passive)


greetz, Payne

[glavie]

http://bobtheveg.dyndns.org/SRO/Char_Build_Applet/

This is probably the site you are using, You can just keeping adding stat points into the negative. And don't forget no one who knows anything said that you must have exactly an 80:80. If you are off a little bit it won't hurt anything.

[Time]

atm iam playing a full int nuker @level 80

why do you need help your lvl 80

[ts00n4mi]

Anyone who has an idea how much sp i should farm?

like i said @iam level 32 with 94k sp

[Jstar1]

omg

pls stop posting the same stuff

-there is no best build
-cleric/bard has its advantages and disadvantages

using the guide isnt hard figure it out urself

[ts00n4mi]

noone ever talked about a cleric or a bard xD

and if you dont have any suggestions and useful posts for that thread please stop spamming things like "stop posting same stuff" and such things...that wont help...


thx to everybody that already gave some good suggestions and useful posts here hope there will be more of that!