Why did Joymax make a 15 second pot delay for euro

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QQ, a whole 15 second pot delay? Disappointed mashing pots isn't going to get you anywhere in euro?
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All my staffs I make +4 and since I am a Wizard, Int is a must on everything. I use Fire, Earth and Ice and a sub mast of Bard (for moving march and Noise). I cant wait to get 70 mast noise for the lvl 80 ignore aggro.
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euro are made for party play not for solo that's the reason and don't ask again...lol

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EURO IS FOR PARTY PLAYING THAT'S WHY THEY'VE GOT 15 SECOND POTION DELAY....
omg its not that hard to understand-.-
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i see more leechers than euro pt plays....

my bad...i mean..i haven seen any high lvl euro pt plays lol

anyone on any servers seen any full euro share pts with mixed classes lvling at taka? :roll:

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lazybum wrote:i see more leechers than euro pt plays....

my bad...i mean..i haven seen any high lvl euro pt plays lol

anyone on any servers seen any full euro share pts with mixed classes lvling at taka? :roll:
not fully euro but 6\8 euro....i was playing in that pt yesterday xD autoshare its pretty good for farming too if you find acitve ppl that grind with you


and yea this sux,looks like nobody understanded that euro is for party..mostly play solo or just powerlevel every second :(

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There are a number of ways to overcome the pot delay. A very easy one is to use vigor potions, they have been in the game forever but hardly anyone uses them. they are still on china's pot time ^_^
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Ryoko wrote:You might think a 15s pot delay is lame

But maybe the chinese style of grinding and PVP is lame?

Pot till you win ? Like every couple seconds

I remember that. Spam your pot key with one finger while you click your skills.

You can fight anything. Just have pots -.-


so true, aside from the spamming the pot key, most of them just auto pot, making it even more lame
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Glavie's Girl wrote:There are a number of ways to overcome the pot delay. A very easy one is to use vigor potions, they have been in the game forever but hardly anyone uses them. they are still on china's pot time ^_^

I also noticed the grains cool down a lot faster.
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to force party play is it not obvious? :shock: [/quote]

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foudre wrote:
Ryoko wrote:You might think a 15s pot delay is lame

But maybe the chinese style of grinding and PVP is lame?

Pot till you win ? Like every couple seconds

I remember that. Spam your pot key with one finger while you click your skills.

You can fight anything. Just have pots -.-


so true, aside from the spamming the pot key, most of them just auto pot, making it even more lame


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foudre wrote:if you can't tank a giant then you suck,

don't whine about the counter balance to super powerfull attacks, they had to be fair

and tanking a giant isn't so hard with a warrior, a cleric can still do it, a rouge can too, wizzards and warlocks need to use hit and run but they still can kill it solo, now a bard doesn't have much chance to solo one on lvl, but deal with it, its just your lack of skill


nope, rogues can't solo giants unless you have l33t weapons and armor
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Jstar1 wrote:
foudre wrote:if you can't tank a giant then you suck,

don't whine about the counter balance to super powerfull attacks, they had to be fair

and tanking a giant isn't so hard with a warrior, a cleric can still do it, a rouge can too, wizzards and warlocks need to use hit and run but they still can kill it solo, now a bard doesn't have much chance to solo one on lvl, but deal with it, its just your lack of skill


nope, rogues can't solo giants unless you have l33t weapons and armor


xbow rogue subclass cleric can solo a giant without trying
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SchlaueHure wrote:its the mosy stupid idea ever becuase they cant tank, mabye a 5 second is better, you cant even tank a giant with a euro so rethink it and do something joymax



Coz Euro char is more powerfull than Chinese char.... right???
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EURO = PARTY PLAY

if youhaven't figured that one out ... you ought to switch to china
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Glavie's Girl wrote:There are a number of ways to overcome the pot delay. A very easy one is to use vigor potions, they have been in the game forever but hardly anyone uses them. they are still on china's pot time ^_^
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Reason of why 15 second delay

You can check on the chinese weapon and europe weapon state of same level.

Another reason is you can just check the damage that europe and chinese character make to a same level mobs.

Not only damage that europe char that make biggest but they still got europe cleric char to support the char.

Most important reason for make it, the games want us play like group play.

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Post by pengachu »

u gotta be kidding me
u CANT tank a giant solo thats about ur lvl?

i have a warrior 2h and i hav eno problem killing it
due to the 15 sec pot delay, vigor potions play an IMPORTANT role to euro. why? its delay is only 5 seconds

so try to have a few vigor potions in ur inventory
if u still cant do it? u lack skillz.

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Guys Here's The Tip

Just Use HP/MP Recovery grain small it takes only 3 seconds
Than the Potions You buy on NPC's it takes 15 seconds...

but... HP/MP Recovery Grain's is HardLy to find but u can buy on other players... :shock:
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I dunno how you cant tank a Giant but i can tank a giant fine Hunter Giant and a Niya mage Giant with 15 sec pot delay kd skills saves your life.

But seriously if euro had a pot system like chinese what be point of being chinese char? us euro already do twice dmg of a chinese char I crit a level 80 Full str glaver with full ice def buff for 24k thats OneHitKo he crits me for 8k at max and im not even level 80 so pot delay was put there for a good reason.

Im glad we have a pot delay and should stay like that.

Euro party vs Chinese party in PvP n PvE, Eruo would rape them in Both PvP and PvE because of insane dmg nad sexy buffs plus 5k party heals with grains +pots
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ThugLife[KoS] wrote:I dunno how you cant tank a Giant but i can tank a giant fine Hunter Giant and a Niya mage Giant with 15 sec pot delay kd skills saves your life.

But seriously if euro had a pot system like chinese what be point of being chinese char? us euro already do twice dmg of a chinese char I crit a level 80 Full str glaver with full ice def buff for 24k thats OneHitKo he crits me for 8k at max and im not even level 80 so pot delay was put there for a good reason.

Im glad we have a pot delay and should stay like that.

Euro party vs Chinese party in PvP n PvE, Eruo would rape them in Both PvP and PvE because of insane dmg nad sexy buffs plus 5k party heals with grains +pots



yea lol ^^ its better to buy pots than to loot pots XD
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Get to 80 with a Euro char and find out... :)

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foudre wrote:if you can't tank a giant then you suck,

and tanking a giant isn't so hard with a warrior, a cleric can still do it, a rouge can too, wizzards and warlocks need to use hit and run but they still can kill it solo, now a bard doesn't have much chance to solo one on lvl, but deal with it, its just your lack of skill


Bullshit.
Any STR based euro char can tank a giant (same level)
INT based euro chars can't tank giants of their level (sox gear excluded)
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It used to be 30 second pot delay, you should be happy its only 15 seconds now!
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without pot delay there would be no need for clerics and bards and also to compensate for this pot delay europeans do A LOT more dmg than chinese characters do
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Very simple explanation here, they overpowered Euro attack and skills and had to think of some clever yet simple scheme to 'balance' them, how? Don't let them use as many pots as Chinese characters can, it all works out hopefully, if not, we'll keep changing the pot rate. Anything is better than actually going back to balance the fundamentals.
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i saw the title of this topic and i just had to laugh :P







there are tons of reasons why their is a pot delay for euro.
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Disconn3cted wrote:without pot delay there would be no need for clerics and bards and also to compensate for this pot delay europeans do A LOT more dmg than chinese characters do

yes....this balance is more than stupid...like whole euro update
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TheTruth wrote:It used to be 30 second pot delay, you should be happy its only 15 seconds now!


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