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MiKe 51-50 wrote:To be int like xmat you need lots of money and awesome sosun gear. With str build, you can do with normal +4-+5 set +7 weapon and be effective enough and stay alive more then an int.


With a bow you'll simply kb when they get within nuking range cause you'll have longer range and you'll strong bow and anti devil the shit out of INTS. They'll be dead by then.


Not really... although pure str bows got helped out a lot, I have more trouble in pvp with glaivers then bowers. Bows are still pretty much screwed as soon as you start stunning or knocking them down. A bit of dull slows them down nicely too.
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Marce_ wrote:
MiKe 51-50 wrote:To be int like xmat you need lots of money and awesome sosun gear. With str build, you can do with normal +4-+5 set +7 weapon and be effective enough and stay alive more then an int.


With a bow you'll simply kb when they get within nuking range cause you'll have longer range and you'll strong bow and anti devil the shit out of INTS. They'll be dead by then.


Not really... although pure str bows got helped out a lot, I have more trouble in pvp with glaivers then bowers. Bows are still pretty much screwed as soon as you start stunning or knocking them down. A bit of dull slows them down nicely too.


Well isn't that the same with all builds? A smart player carries a shield with im so if stun or kd they put that on.

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Marce_ wrote:@ Mod, Did you know that whatever floats ur boat is a gay term? Saying like you can be gay if you want to. Im not gay -.-


Urban Dictionary wrote:1. whatever floats your boat

This is a phrase that often means whatever "soothes your soul" or whatever "works best" Aka- Whatever you feel like doing.


The next four definitions didn't have anything to do with the mindless crap you posted either so I didn't bother to continue.

(http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.p ... +your+boat)
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and only ppl who are scare of there own sexuality point out about others

IowU wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rV8SWKau4aU

yea the turth is out there str deafeats int? so where exactly is it?

think again...

build doesnt matter since there is sun out there its all about gear
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Rizla wrote:
Marce_ wrote:@ Mod, Did you know that whatever floats ur boat is a gay term? Saying like you can be gay if you want to. Im not gay -.-


Urban Dictionary wrote:1. whatever floats your boat

This is a phrase that often means whatever "soothes your soul" or whatever "works best" Aka- Whatever you feel like doing.


The next four definitions didn't have anything to do with the mindless crap you posted either so I didn't bother to continue.

(http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.p ... +your+boat)


I meant it as in slang.
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Marce_ wrote:
Rizla wrote:
Marce_ wrote:@ Mod, Did you know that whatever floats ur boat is a gay term? Saying like you can be gay if you want to. Im not gay -.-


Urban Dictionary wrote:1. whatever floats your boat

This is a phrase that often means whatever "soothes your soul" or whatever "works best" Aka- Whatever you feel like doing.


The next four definitions didn't have anything to do with the mindless crap you posted either so I didn't bother to continue.

(http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.p ... +your+boat)


I meant it as in slang.


Would you mind cleaning the gene pool a bit? It just needs a good dousing of ammonia and bleach, mix them up in a bucket vigorously - dont worry if it splashes you - it's healthy.
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Marce_ wrote:@ Mod, Did you know that whatever floats ur boat is a gay term? Saying like you can be gay if you want to. Im not gay -.-


Huh?

http://www.businessballs.com/clichesorigins.htm wrote:whatever floats your boat - if it makes you happy/it's your decision/it's your choice (although I don't necessarily agree and I don't care anyway) -

a relatively modern expression from the late 20th century with strangely little known origins. Interestingly the phrase is used not only in the 2nd person (you/your) sense; "Whatever floats your boat" would also far more commonly be used in referring to the 3rd person (him/his/her/their) than "Whatever floats his boat" or Whatever floats her/their boat", which do not occur in common usage. Importantly the meaning also suggests bemusement or disagreement on the part of whoever makes the comment; rather like saying "it's not something I would do or choose myself, but if that's what you want then go ahead, just so long as you don't want my approval". Unofficial references and opinions about the 'whatever floats your boat' cliche seem to agree the origins are American, but other than that we are left to speculate how the expression might have developed. The 'whatever floats your boat' expression is a metaphor that alludes to the person being the boat, and the person's choice (of activity, option, particularly related to lifestyle) being what the boat sits on and supports it, or in a more mystical sense, whatever enables the boat to defy the downward pull of gravity. In this latter sense the word 'floats' is being applied to the boat rather than what it sits on. Whether the phrase started from a single (but as yet unidentified) quote, or just 'grew' through general adoption, the clues to the root origins of the expression probably lie more than anything else in the sense that the person's choice is considered irresponsible or is not approved of, because this sense connects to other negative meanings of 'float' words used in slang. The word 'float' in this expression possibly draws upon meanings within other earlier slang uses of the word 'float', notably 'float around' meaning to to occupy oneself circulating among others without any particular purpose ('loaf around aimlessly' as Cassell puts it, perhaps derived from the same expression used in the Royal Air Force from the 1930's to describe the act of flying irresponsibly and aimlessly). Also, significantly, 'floating' has since the 1950's been slang for being drunk or high on drugs. 'Floating one' refers to passing a dud cheque or entering into a debt with no means of repaying it (also originally from the armed forces, c.1930's according to Cassells). And a 'floater' has for some decades referred to someone who drifts aimlessly between jobs. While none of these usages provides precise origins for the 'floats your boat' expression, they do perhaps suggest why the word 'float' fits aptly with a central part of the expression's meaning, especially the references to drink and drugs, from which the word boat and the combination of float and boat would naturally have developed or been associated.
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Rizla wrote:
Marce_ wrote:
Rizla wrote:
Marce_ wrote:@ Mod, Did you know that whatever floats ur boat is a gay term? Saying like you can be gay if you want to. Im not gay -.-


Urban Dictionary wrote:1. whatever floats your boat

This is a phrase that often means whatever "soothes your soul" or whatever "works best" Aka- Whatever you feel like doing.


The next four definitions didn't have anything to do with the mindless crap you posted either so I didn't bother to continue.

(http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.p ... +your+boat)


I meant it as in slang.


Would you mind cleaning the gene pool a bit? It just needs a good dousing of ammonia and bleach, mix them up in a bucket vigorously - dont worry if it splashes you - it's healthy.


thats kinda of inapporiate for a mod to tell some one to go kill themselves you should have higher standards
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foudre wrote:
Rizla wrote:
Marce_ wrote:
Rizla wrote:
Marce_ wrote:@ Mod, Did you know that whatever floats ur boat is a gay term? Saying like you can be gay if you want to. Im not gay -.-


Urban Dictionary wrote:1. whatever floats your boat

This is a phrase that often means whatever "soothes your soul" or whatever "works best" Aka- Whatever you feel like doing.


The next four definitions didn't have anything to do with the mindless crap you posted either so I didn't bother to continue.

(http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.p ... +your+boat)


I meant it as in slang.


Would you mind cleaning the gene pool a bit? It just needs a good dousing of ammonia and bleach, mix them up in a bucket vigorously - dont worry if it splashes you - it's healthy.


thats kinda of inapporiate for a mod to tell some one to go kill themselves you should have higher standards


Im not an idiot. As you can see even the mods here have no respect. Why would you ask for the members to have some too?
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marce u ..... retard. rizla didn't even hint at nething homosexual in his post, yet u jump to the conclusion that he has. maybe u'r uncomfortable wit ur sexuality, is that it? u have to defend urself? cuz u'r actually in the closet right? it's ok, come out, we dun discriminate.

and yes, u did ask for bow build, and rizla gave u a link, be grateful he's helping u find some bow builds, cuz u dun have a brains to do so urself.

the rest of ur first post was shit, so stfu plx.
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TOloseGT wrote:marce u ..... retard. rizla didn't even hint at nething homosexual in his post, yet u jump to the conclusion that he has. maybe u'r uncomfortable wit ur sexuality, is that it?...


Hence the thread title.

Sorry, I just couldn't resist.
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lol.. "Str defeats Int's" :P
Of course they defeat you if you have shit gear, shit weapons and is unfarmed.

You cant really say that, coz i win many pvp's, i also loose many..
But its not like i get defeated by str's all the time, i mostly win (Yeah) to str's :)
I have pretty good gear, ok farmed, ok weapons, and i like it ^^

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its the gear&weapons + the players experience
not the build!

even a str blader can own if it has good gear&weapon + a well experienced player
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gear + weapons + ppl experience + fully farmed skills + luck = ftw (when you got bleed and division on you and you didn't got pills for that you will get owned anyway >_> lol)
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Ill support you :) go for it, the main thing is to have fun and good luck with your new character :)
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[SD]Rainigul wrote:
Fat_Smurf wrote:str own int in pvp? since when? lawl u gotta be pure int psear in garm :roll:


Uhhh... Bow's always been the destroyer of int, lol.

Strongbow=dead int.

Int's cool, but yeah, bow's better.


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Crit strong bow one shot int. Its hillarious.

Many, many, many times.

But no matter what I did or how hard I try

Lose to glaiver of equivalent gear.

Unless you get 2-3 crit back to back, glaive will own you.

And I had 64 SOS+7 bow. Isnt sosun but at the time, there was no sosuns.

Bow is designed as a range weapon. Game would be hella imbalanced if you were as strong as a glaiver, and ranged attacker.

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Hey marce, just to let you know bro this is only the lvl80 cap. This game dont stop untill lvl150 cap so by concluding that str>int is unfair. And if i remember correctly you said you are on lvl70 right? Well get to lvl80 first and fight with a str player. If you are a pure int s/s you can go hybrid because for cap lvl90+ s/s hybrid will be one of the best build. Dont ask me to proof or show any screen shots. Just ask any ksro players and they will tell you. Bow is a good build but they are not the best. I have seen many pure int with no sun sword raped a full sun gear and full farm bow players. So its only about stragety!

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hhmmm, depends on how you play your character, and from all your post yea you should go str leave ints to the ones who can use them.
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LOL so this is where Immortal comes from...
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Fat_Smurf wrote:str own int in pvp? since when? lawl u gotta be pure int psear in garm :roll:


if you pvp. with spear as a nuker you will die unless you nuke some ramdom person without asking them to pvp. :twisted:
Glavie+Fanning Spear>Nuker+Snow shield....
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STR Bow might own at level 80 cap VS Chinese, but at 90 cap a different build will take its place, and we dont know how any build will repond to a high level Euro. So i'd say farm for 1month until there are a lot more highlevel euros, and see what is most effective for pvp.
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IowU wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rV8SWKau4aU

yea the turth is out there str deafeats int? so where exactly is it?

think again...

lol.... the nuker only wins when he has honor buffs on when hes not got em he dies easy ..(on the 1st pvp) also "oh look vigors," and oh look honor buffs and also silkroad gives u vigor grins aswell
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Ryoko wrote:
Bow is designed as a range weapon. Game would be hella imbalanced if you were as strong as a glaiver, and ranged attacker.


rogue crossbow is a very long-ranged attacker and does twice or more damage than glaive does.

wouldn't it be a better to choice to go rogue/cleric rather than pure str bow?

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_SomeOne_ wrote:
IowU wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rV8SWKau4aU

yea the turth is out there str deafeats int? so where exactly is it?

think again...

lol.... the nuker only wins when he has honor buffs on when hes not got em he dies easy ..(on the 1st pvp) also "oh look vigors," and oh look honor buffs and also silkroad gives u vigor grins aswell


so honor buffs are bad but when all his enemies using premium its ok ?

so all his enemies had extra 3int3str +5%mag att/+5% patak +5phy abs/mabs +5%att rating +5% perry and he had only honor buffs so pls dont be a noobcake...

think a bit it dosent hurt at all...
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well... when i got my account from my cousin i directly go on pvp on JAngan i was still lvl 18 atm... then a lvl 21 swordsman using sos sword is like pwning everyone so i gave him a shot... shit he got ice imbue... but still i killed him even though my life is like 100 left then he died :D...

i think he is pure int... and on time i killed 2 shot with 2 consecutive crits... i think that stinks fo him xD
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Marce_ wrote:After 7 months of lvling, jobbing, unique hunting, and pvping, I have decided to quit my main character Marce. I got to lvl. 70 grinding. Made many friendships and many enemies. Supported teamwork and frowned upon botting and gold buying. I will start a new charcter. As the title of my thread says... the truth is that STR defeats INT in pvp.

My primary goal in SRO is to be one of the greatest in pvp and in unique hunting. As I have experience a share of the builds pie, I've come to the conclusion that Pure Str Bow is a really powerful build and is also great for unique hunting. I am stalling all my gear and will probably make about 500m gold plus as much with my new character. I am hoping that I will come up with enough money to buy a lvl. 72 +7 Crit 10 80% phy attack or a SoSun bow.

I told myself and Im dedicated to not job, pvp, or unique hunt until I get to the lvl. where 8D begins...also known as lvl 64. I might buy an SOS Bow just to lvl faster in the begining of my 8D goal. As of my characters name and identity I would like to begin a new beggining so it will be kept secret. No one shall know that I am Marce and see what new enemies and friendships I make on Sparta. I love Sparta and i'll stay in it.

Now I know you guys were like who cares? Why make a thread. I just wanted to get your imput on bow builds. What's best. Whats needed to own with it..and so forth. I'd really appreciate it and thanks in advance.

sure, you only forgot the "im gay" part tho..after all, the topic title is, The truth should be told or something like that rigiht? ..
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sorry to be mean but just quit the game...

why waste your time on doing this?
well its your time so w.e xD

but yeah bows own they get uniques and i just love the crits but good luck on making an other char i wouldnt do an other one but hope you dont quit before.. you accomplish this :wink:

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@Marce_ well anyway good luck whit your bow char..

@ Logik And why quit the game and waste time on doing this?

well is fine if Marce_ want have another char to play whit is not need quit the game uh.
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all i had to read was the first 2 sentences.

congrats on giving up silkroad :D
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u cant go make a build expecting to get sun tho
pure str bow is a good build ofc
but i was fighting 2 lvl 80 full farmed str bowman and i only had +4 +5 prot set and +7 wep and they couldnt kill me no snow shield they did like 2k rofl i had 13k hp so gl killing me =) nuked them for 8-11k btw
hybrid int spear is the best build atm i'd say mostly because of snow shield.
but in massive jobwar or guildwar if u have alot of bowers bow onwz cuz of kb.
it doesnt matter which build u have tbh as long as u have fun =)
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