80 80 bower Pacheon With heuksal?

[marckillz91]

hi all,
iam lv 47 gap 9 and farming for lv 56 full skilled (for farming at lv 65 cave) masteries: lighting ice pacheon, mayby does work if i take heuksal with it, i get more hp, and for pvp: Strong Anti Combo Stunn petal(phanton if i can't tank) it's no point to farm some extra sp

I wanna take heuksal cuz 1. i like the skills,
2. stunn on pacheon is lv 77.......
3. stunn/petal are some lesser dmg thens strongbow but stronger then anti/berseker
4. ive extra hp


But.. If i take fire.. is that mayby a better idea or ...

Writh what you think is good^^

CheollyeonNL

[Krevidy]

Venice server right?

[Doctor_MOS]

sup dude

-think about 90 cap^^ if farming is no point, leveling wouldn't be aslo(your gonna get stuck with your masteries)
-the point of the hybrid bower is to do very much damage, bow is the ulimatie hybrid weapon for chinese (looking at his stats), since petal is a got a big cooldown (afther you hit them) i think it wouldn't be good
-also you have to be RANGED, you can't do stun when u are 20 meters away from him.
-how do you know that soul spear truth would be stronger then your anti devil? (and besides, anti got a godly critical increase)


just my 00.02$ and thoughts

*glenn you post first yes he's venice =p marc xD

[Krevidy]

[quote="Doctor_MOS"]bro dude

-think about 90 cap^^ if farming has no point, leveling wouldn't have a point to(your gonna get stuck with your masteries)
-the point of the hybrid bower is to do (very) much damage, bow is the ultimate hybrid weapon for chinese (looking at the stats), since petal has got a big cooldown (after you used the skill) i think it wouldn't be good
-also you have to be RANGED, you can't do stun when u are 20 meters away from him.
-how do you know that soul spear truth would be stronger then your anti devil? (and besides, anti got a godly critical increase)


just my 00.02$ and thoughts

So what do you want to say?
I would suggest you go Pacheon/Electric.
Because you're hybrid you'll need the Mag / parry buffs to increase your mag dmg and lower the dmg ppl will do on you.
Also you'll need electric for the telepport skill ( I forgot the name due to playing to much on euro chars )

I suggest you use this tactic for PVP. : Strongbow>Anti-Devil book2 > Anti-Devil book3>Arrow combo>Strongbow. So on

[Doctor_MOS]

bro dude

-think about 90 cap^^ if farming has no point, leveling wouldn't have a point to(your gonna get stuck with your masteries)
-the point of the hybrid bower is to do (very) much damage, bow is the ultimate hybrid weapon for chinese (looking at the stats), since petal has got a big cooldown (after you used the skill) i think it wouldn't be good
-also you have to be RANGED, you can't do stun when u are 20 meters away from him.
-how do you know that soul spear truth would be stronger then your anti devil? (and besides, anti got a godly critical increase)


just my 00.02$ and thoughts

So what do you want to say?
I would suggest you go Pacheon/Electric.
Because you're hybrid you'll need the Mag / parry buffs to increase your mag dmg and lower the dmg ppl will do on you.
Also you'll need electric for the telepport skill ( I forgot the name due to playing to much on euro chars )

I suggest you use this tactic for PVP. : Strongbow>Anti-Devil book2 > Anti-Devil book3>Arrow combo>Strongbow. So on

he asked about what our thoughts were on a pacheon/heuksal based build were

i agree, you definitly need ligtning, and you don't wanna lose cold for the godly phy defence buff , and ice snow ofcourse

Glenn ur tactis is debatable, bcz you won't have to depend on crits as much as a pure str/str hybrid would....so maybe strong+strong+beseker+arrow combo (for lv 70+), since beseker got extra AR(for extra high damage) tho it's slower
*btw* strongbow>anti>anti>combo>strongbow...you will discover cooldown problems i can do strongbow>anti>beseker>ligtning nuke JUST without cooldown problems, combo is TO short

[Krevidy]

bro dude

-think about 90 cap^^ if farming has no point, leveling wouldn't have a point to(your gonna get stuck with your masteries)
-the point of the hybrid bower is to do (very) much damage, bow is the ultimate hybrid weapon for chinese (looking at the stats), since petal has got a big cooldown (after you used the skill) i think it wouldn't be good
-also you have to be RANGED, you can't do stun when u are 20 meters away from him.
-how do you know that soul spear truth would be stronger then your anti devil? (and besides, anti got a godly critical increase)


just my 00.02$ and thoughts

So what do you want to say?
I would suggest you go Pacheon/Electric.
Because you're hybrid you'll need the Mag / parry buffs to increase your mag dmg and lower the dmg ppl will do on you.
Also you'll need electric for the telepport skill ( I forgot the name due to playing to much on euro chars )

I suggest you use this tactic for PVP. : Strongbow>Anti-Devil book2 > Anti-Devil book3>Arrow combo>Strongbow. So on

he asked about what our thoughts were on a pacheon/heuksal based build were

i agree, you definitly need ligtning, and you don't wanna lose cold for the godly phy defence buff , and ice snow ofcourse

Glenn ur tactis is debatable, bcz you won't have to depend on crits as much as a pure str/str hybrid would....so maybe strong+strong+beseker+arrow combo (for lv 70+), since beseker got extra AR(for extra high damage) tho it's slower
*btw* strongbow>anti>anti>combo>strongbow...you will discover cooldown problems i can do strongbow>anti>beseker>ligtning nuke JUST without cooldown problems, combo is TO short

Srry bro but i gotta tell you this Strong bow has 2-3 sec cooldown so does Anti devil , so you wont notice any problem in casting your skills

[Doctor_MOS]

hi all,

3. stunn/petal are some lesser dmg thens strongbow but stronger then anti/berseker

don't forget the fact that this build is to keep dealing constant damage, the heuksal skills are absolutly not constant!

[marckillz91]

bro dude

-think about 90 cap^^ if farming has no point, leveling wouldn't have a point to(your gonna get stuck with your masteries)
-the point of the hybrid bower is to do (very) much damage, bow is the ultimate hybrid weapon for chinese (looking at the stats), since petal has got a big cooldown (after you used the skill) i think it wouldn't be good
-also you have to be RANGED, you can't do stun when u are 20 meters away from him.
-how do you know that soul spear truth would be stronger then your anti devil? (and besides, anti got a godly critical increase)


just my 00.02$ and thoughts

So what do you want to say?
I would suggest you go Pacheon/Electric.
Because you're hybrid you'll need the Mag / parry buffs to increase your mag dmg and lower the dmg ppl will do on you.
Also you'll need electric for the telepport skill ( I forgot the name due to playing to much on euro chars )

I suggest you use this tactic for PVP. : Strongbow>Anti-Devil book2 > Anti-Devil book3>Arrow combo>Strongbow. So on

he asked about what our thoughts were on a pacheon/heuksal based build were

i agree, you definitly need ligtning, and you don't wanna lose cold for the godly phy defence buff , and ice snow ofcourse

Glenn ur tactis is debatable, bcz you won't have to depend on crits as much as a pure str/str hybrid would....so maybe strong+strong+beseker+arrow combo (for lv 70+), since beseker got extra AR(for extra high damage) tho it's slower
*btw* strongbow>anti>anti>combo>strongbow...you will discover cooldown problems i can do strongbow>anti>beseker>ligtning nuke JUST without cooldown problems, combo is TO short

Srry bro but i gotta tell you this Strong bow has 2-3 sec cooldown so does Anti devil , so you wont notice any problem in casting your skills

In facts.. i think
I never reach lv 75+
I can make 4 masteries lv 75
And if I can be higher I can delvl?^^
I think stun and knockback can be very important. If I are pvping with a pure str glavier,
We start at range, strongbow, anti, combo, and then switch to spear, stun, petal, and at lv 54+ I do strong, strong, anti, switch, stun stun petal and I can tank again other I do phantom and same attacks.

I got more hp if I take heuksal with it

But is fire not better effectief?

[glavie]

Actually there was a thread about this for a pure STR bower/glavie and the conclusion was, it just might work.

For the 80cap
80 pacheon
80hueksal
60ice
80light

You can easily switch ice and light to better match your playing style.

Benefits of Max light: stronger imbue, stronger nuke, more agile.
Benefits of max ice: best imbue status effect, more physical defense (which you lack) and I think you can take snow shield to around 45% with 80:80 balance.

You must have Ice at lvl 60 for the 40% snow shield. Without it You will be at more of a disadvantage, then the HP bonus from hueksal.

Until you are capped I would recommend leveling fire to around lvl 32 for the physical increase passive/buff, and fire shield. Then just delevel when you need to.

Clerics have the equivalent buff as fire shield, so don't worry you can be immune without fire.

If you actually do this Pls make a video of some pvp, I would love to see it.

Or wire me some cash so i can move my skills around and I can do it for you, I am almost lvl 64

[marckillz91]

Actually there was a thread about this for a pure STR bower/glavie and the conclusion was, it just might work.

For the 80cap
80 pacheon
80hueksal
60ice
80light

You can easily switch ice and light to better match your playing style.

Benefits of Max light: stronger imbue, stronger nuke, more agile.
Benefits of max ice: best imbue status effect, more physical defense (which you lack) and I think you can take snow shield to around 45% with 80:80 balance.

You must have Ice at lvl 60 for the 40% snow shield. Without it You will be at more of a disadvantage, then the HP bonus from hueksal.

Until you are capped I would recommend leveling fire to around lvl 32 for the physical increase passive/buff, and fire shield. Then just delevel when you need to.

Clerics have the equivalent buff as fire shield, so don't worry you can be immune without fire.

If you actually do this Pls make a video of some pvp, I would love to see it.

Or wire me some cash so i can move my skills around and I can do it for you, I am almost lvl 64

Np:P i gonna make a video when iam round lv 56 (Full skilled) then i make pvp movie
i take 9 gap till lv 65 and gonna farm +/- 100k sp for 3 gapping till....... 80 i hope:P

But i gonna make movie i love to make it, dont have a movie with this build at the moment

Cya

[Doctor_MOS]

bro dude

-think about 90 cap^^ if farming has no point, leveling wouldn't have a point to(your gonna get stuck with your masteries)
-the point of the hybrid bower is to do (very) much damage, bow is the ultimate hybrid weapon for chinese (looking at the stats), since petal has got a big cooldown (after you used the skill) i think it wouldn't be good
-also you have to be RANGED, you can't do stun when u are 20 meters away from him.
-how do you know that soul spear truth would be stronger then your anti devil? (and besides, anti got a godly critical increase)


just my 00.02$ and thoughts

So what do you want to say?
I would suggest you go Pacheon/Electric.
Because you're hybrid you'll need the Mag / parry buffs to increase your mag dmg and lower the dmg ppl will do on you.
Also you'll need electric for the telepport skill ( I forgot the name due to playing to much on euro chars )

I suggest you use this tactic for PVP. : Strongbow>Anti-Devil book2 > Anti-Devil book3>Arrow combo>Strongbow. So on

he asked about what our thoughts were on a pacheon/heuksal based build were

i agree, you definitly need ligtning, and you don't wanna lose cold for the godly phy defence buff , and ice snow ofcourse

Glenn ur tactis is debatable, bcz you won't have to depend on crits as much as a pure str/str hybrid would....so maybe strong+strong+beseker+arrow combo (for lv 70+), since beseker got extra AR(for extra high damage) tho it's slower
*btw* strongbow>anti>anti>combo>strongbow...you will discover cooldown problems i can do strongbow>anti>beseker>ligtning nuke JUST without cooldown problems, combo is TO short

Srry bro but i gotta tell you this Strong bow has 2-3 sec cooldown so does Anti devil , so you wont notice any problem in casting your skills

glenn noob i wish it was 3 sec it's 7 sec

[Doctor_MOS]

bro dude

-think about 90 cap^^ if farming has no point, leveling wouldn't have a point to(your gonna get stuck with your masteries)
-the point of the hybrid bower is to do (very) much damage, bow is the ultimate hybrid weapon for chinese (looking at the stats), since petal has got a big cooldown (after you used the skill) i think it wouldn't be good
-also you have to be RANGED, you can't do stun when u are 20 meters away from him.
-how do you know that soul spear truth would be stronger then your anti devil? (and besides, anti got a godly critical increase)


just my 00.02$ and thoughts

So what do you want to say?
I would suggest you go Pacheon/Electric.
Because you're hybrid you'll need the Mag / parry buffs to increase your mag dmg and lower the dmg ppl will do on you.
Also you'll need electric for the telepport skill ( I forgot the name due to playing to much on euro chars )

I suggest you use this tactic for PVP. : Strongbow>Anti-Devil book2 > Anti-Devil book3>Arrow combo>Strongbow. So on

he asked about what our thoughts were on a pacheon/heuksal based build were

i agree, you definitly need ligtning, and you don't wanna lose cold for the godly phy defence buff , and ice snow ofcourse

Glenn ur tactis is debatable, bcz you won't have to depend on crits as much as a pure str/str hybrid would....so maybe strong+strong+beseker+arrow combo (for lv 70+), since beseker got extra AR(for extra high damage) tho it's slower
*btw* strongbow>anti>anti>combo>strongbow...you will discover cooldown problems i can do strongbow>anti>beseker>ligtning nuke JUST without cooldown problems, combo is TO short

Srry bro but i gotta tell you this Strong bow has 2-3 sec cooldown so does Anti devil , so you wont notice any problem in casting your skills

In facts.. i think
I never reach lv 75+
I can make 4 masteries lv 75
And if I can be higher I can delvl?^^
I think stun and knockback can be very important. If I are pvping with a pure str glavier,
We start at range, strongbow, anti, combo, and then switch to spear, stun, petal, and at lv 54+ I do strong, strong, anti, switch, stun stun petal and I can tank again other I do phantom and same attacks.

I got more hp if I take heuksal with it

But is fire not better effectief?

ur saying you CAN farm 100k sp but CAN't level towards lv 80+??


gay xD

[marckillz91]

bro dude

-think about 90 cap^^ if farming has no point, leveling wouldn't have a point to(your gonna get stuck with your masteries)
-the point of the hybrid bower is to do (very) much damage, bow is the ultimate hybrid weapon for chinese (looking at the stats), since petal has got a big cooldown (after you used the skill) i think it wouldn't be good
-also you have to be RANGED, you can't do stun when u are 20 meters away from him.
-how do you know that soul spear truth would be stronger then your anti devil? (and besides, anti got a godly critical increase)


just my 00.02$ and thoughts

So what do you want to say?
I would suggest you go Pacheon/Electric.
Because you're hybrid you'll need the Mag / parry buffs to increase your mag dmg and lower the dmg ppl will do on you.
Also you'll need electric for the telepport skill ( I forgot the name due to playing to much on euro chars )

I suggest you use this tactic for PVP. : Strongbow>Anti-Devil book2 > Anti-Devil book3>Arrow combo>Strongbow. So on

he asked about what our thoughts were on a pacheon/heuksal based build were

i agree, you definitly need ligtning, and you don't wanna lose cold for the godly phy defence buff , and ice snow ofcourse

Glenn ur tactis is debatable, bcz you won't have to depend on crits as much as a pure str/str hybrid would....so maybe strong+strong+beseker+arrow combo (for lv 70+), since beseker got extra AR(for extra high damage) tho it's slower
*btw* strongbow>anti>anti>combo>strongbow...you will discover cooldown problems i can do strongbow>anti>beseker>ligtning nuke JUST without cooldown problems, combo is TO short

Srry bro but i gotta tell you this Strong bow has 2-3 sec cooldown so does Anti devil , so you wont notice any problem in casting your skills

In facts.. i think
I never reach lv 75+
I can make 4 masteries lv 75
And if I can be higher I can delvl?^^
I think stun and knockback can be very important. If I are pvping with a pure str glavier,
We start at range, strongbow, anti, combo, and then switch to spear, stun, petal, and at lv 54+ I do strong, strong, anti, switch, stun stun petal and I can tank again other I do phantom and same attacks.

I got more hp if I take heuksal with it

But is fire not better effectief?

ur saying you CAN farm 100k sp but CAN't level towards lv 80+??


gay xD

i can farm 100k, but lvling go not fast at lv 64+ :
So, i can be 80.. but it will take months

But that wasn't my question

[Doctor_MOS]

bro dude

-think about 90 cap^^ if farming has no point, leveling wouldn't have a point to(your gonna get stuck with your masteries)
-the point of the hybrid bower is to do (very) much damage, bow is the ultimate hybrid weapon for chinese (looking at the stats), since petal has got a big cooldown (after you used the skill) i think it wouldn't be good
-also you have to be RANGED, you can't do stun when u are 20 meters away from him.
-how do you know that soul spear truth would be stronger then your anti devil? (and besides, anti got a godly critical increase)


just my 00.02$ and thoughts

So what do you want to say?
I would suggest you go Pacheon/Electric.
Because you're hybrid you'll need the Mag / parry buffs to increase your mag dmg and lower the dmg ppl will do on you.
Also you'll need electric for the telepport skill ( I forgot the name due to playing to much on euro chars )

I suggest you use this tactic for PVP. : Strongbow>Anti-Devil book2 > Anti-Devil book3>Arrow combo>Strongbow. So on

he asked about what our thoughts were on a pacheon/heuksal based build were

i agree, you definitly need ligtning, and you don't wanna lose cold for the godly phy defence buff , and ice snow ofcourse

Glenn ur tactis is debatable, bcz you won't have to depend on crits as much as a pure str/str hybrid would....so maybe strong+strong+beseker+arrow combo (for lv 70+), since beseker got extra AR(for extra high damage) tho it's slower
*btw* strongbow>anti>anti>combo>strongbow...you will discover cooldown problems i can do strongbow>anti>beseker>ligtning nuke JUST without cooldown problems, combo is TO short

Srry bro but i gotta tell you this Strong bow has 2-3 sec cooldown so does Anti devil , so you wont notice any problem in casting your skills

In facts.. i think
I never reach lv 75+
I can make 4 masteries lv 75
And if I can be higher I can delvl?^^
I think stun and knockback can be very important. If I are pvping with a pure str glavier,
We start at range, strongbow, anti, combo, and then switch to spear, stun, petal, and at lv 54+ I do strong, strong, anti, switch, stun stun petal and I can tank again other I do phantom and same attacks.

I got more hp if I take heuksal with it

But is fire not better effectief?

ur saying you CAN farm 100k sp but CAN't level towards lv 80+??


gay xD

i can farm 100k, but lvling go not fast at lv 64+ :
So, i can be 80.. but it will take months

But that wasn't my question

You will miss at least 9% (fire lv 40) physical damage (imho a lot) you won't need the heuksal skills EVER! at level 72+ you've got your own stun and knock back on pacheon, why switch to spear (which does lower damage per second?? becease of the huge cooldown time) also maxing 4 three's at level 75 is pvping with a gap 5...imho not good (and this way you won't have stun on your strong bow, and you won't have soul spear emperor IF u wish to continue with this build)

so basicly you want to take heuksal to 75 for around 1500 extra hp?

[Krevidy]

Doc do you actually now what'''IMO''means (not imho)?

and 1500 hp doesn't make a big difference at 70+ Ill just Ghost spear your newb ass and they''re goes 3k hp
And why are you planning for lv 72+?
Iff you're a legit you wont even reach 72+ in 8months of intensive gaming?
Iff you have a bot, go ahead plan al off it.
Just know you're screwing up the sro

[Doctor_MOS]

Doc do you actually now what'''IMO''means (not imho)? in my hounest opinion

and 1500 hp doesn't make a big difference at 70+ Ill just Ghost spear your newb ass and they''re goes 3k hp
And why are you planning for lv 72+?
Iff you're a legit you wont even reach 72+ in 8months of intensive gaming?
Iff you have a bot, go ahead plan al off it.
Just know you're screwing up the sro

playing 2 hours a day you will reach 72+ in 8 months i think (maybe 2 months a gt or something)

*btw* glenn when does ur litl brother 's going to thomas kolhek *?