ice glavie vs fire glavie?

Ice_Warrior · Post by **Ice_Warrior** » Mon May 29, 2006 11:51 pm

which 1 better for 1 on 1 PVP? ice can keep u alive from them shield nukers which alot of fire glavie die from, but ice is quite weak but still strong compared to bladers and bowers, so please leave pros and cons on ur choice thnx. ^^

ShizKnight · Post by **ShizKnight** » Tue May 30, 2006 1:39 am

Ice_Warrior wrote:which 1 better for 1 on 1 PVP? ice can keep u alive from them shield nukers which alot of fire glavie die from, but ice is quite weak but still strong compared to bladers and bowers, so please leave pros and cons on ur choice thnx. ^^

Glavies. Pwn. Nukers. SOOOO. HARD.

Ice_Warrior · Post by **Ice_Warrior** » Tue May 30, 2006 4:45 pm

not all the time, i seen wuite a few times shield nukers pwn fire glavies cz wen they blok a glavies hard hit they have loadz of time to use nuke or KD and stabs which just takes the piss, but ice glavie can freeze to cancle nukers nukes which leaves them with KD which is ..... annoying, but i can slow them down so they take ages to use KD. byt hen i've stunned the nuker.

ShizKnight · Post by **ShizKnight** » Tue May 30, 2006 6:33 pm

Ice_Warrior wrote:not all the time, i seen wuite a few times shield nukers pwn fire glavies cz wen they blok a glavies hard hit they have loadz of time to use nuke or KD and stabs which just takes the piss, but ice glavie can freeze to cancle nukers nukes which leaves them with KD which is ..... annoying, but i can slow them down so they take ages to use KD. byt hen i've stunned the nuker.

It doesn't matter if they knock you down, it won't take off enough health.

Ice_Warrior · Post by **Ice_Warrior** » Tue May 30, 2006 7:37 pm

wot u on bout, nukers KD and stab is double of wot bladers can do, but fire bladers rely on the crits dat they do, dat is wot pwns on a fire blader high crit Kd and stab. Pure ints to REALLY HIGH dmg constanly but its just their crits are shit, if they constant KD u and stab u will die, and if ur fire u cnt slow them down, u have to get lucky and stun dem, but if their stunned they still can blok ur hits.

ShizKnight · Post by **ShizKnight** » Tue May 30, 2006 7:40 pm

Knockdown+Stab is nothing compared to a nuke, and as long as they're not nuking me, they're helping me recover.

Ice_Warrior · Post by **Ice_Warrior** » Tue May 30, 2006 7:54 pm

but u wont be able to pot faster den der KD and 3 stab. otherwise u wnt get ur ass kiked by bladers, cz pure int KD and stabs do alot more dmg den fire blade KD + stabs, ints do a few K dmg each time they KD + stab, trust me my friend has a lvl 67 glavie fire and i used him, they can beat nukers but most of the time they blok alot of the big hits i used and they just constantly freezing me and Knocking me down and stabbing u just end up dying, cz wen they slow u down ur skill stays slow until its finished which means they can fit 1 or 2 KDs in. and before u finish ur big hit ur on the ground laying der whilst the nuker stabs u.

ShizKnight · Post by **ShizKnight** » Tue May 30, 2006 7:57 pm

Probably because you used chains. If you EVER stun a nuker, they WILL die. Chains canNOT stun. Soul Spear-Soul can. Truth can. Move can. Combos. Can. Not.

Ice_Warrior · Post by **Ice_Warrior** » Tue May 30, 2006 8:28 pm

ye but i use ice so wen u link combos they dnt have a chance to do enuf dmg whilst there frozen i get a few crits in my combos i can just follow up with soul spear and ghost.

Kew · Post by **Kew** » Tue May 30, 2006 10:49 pm

so. time for a hint from an ice glaiver

i never ever killed anyone using only/mostly my chains. and believe me, i tried

ShizKnight · Post by **ShizKnight** » Tue May 30, 2006 11:18 pm

And, as a Fire Glavie who uses Soul Spear and Ghost Spear solely, I have murdered Ints AND Strs my level.

specialedd · Post by **specialedd** » Tue May 30, 2006 11:23 pm

Well if anyone thinks a ice glaive is better than a fire glaive and ur on xian, pm me.
I got a lvl 60 fire glaive that will prove u other wise

Kew · Post by **Kew** » Tue May 30, 2006 11:36 pm

well, dont misunderstand my post. i meant i didnt killed anyone when only/mostly using chains

so. believe me or not, i had a fight with a same lvl fire glaiver just an hour ago
hes glaive was +5, mine is +3. he was fire, im ice.
but i did more dmg then he did
i dont know about his gear/mastery lvls, but i did definietly a bit more dmg (nothing overwhelming, though)
well, not like it would matter, we couldnt kill each other, so we parted

now plz dont flame this, i have absolutly no idea wich one is better, i never played an other char

ShizKnight · Post by **ShizKnight** » Tue May 30, 2006 11:39 pm

Kew wrote:well, dont misunderstand my post. i meant i didnt killed anyone when only/mostly using chains

so. believe me or not, i had a fight with a same lvl fire glaiver just an hour ago
hes glaive was +5, mine is +3. he was fire, im ice.
but i did more dmg then he did
i dont know about his gear/mastery lvls, but i did definietly a bit more dmg (nothing overwhelming, though)
well, not like it would matter, we couldnt kill each other, so we parted

now plz dont flame this, i have absolutly no idea wich one is better, i never played an other char

Possibly, but there's too many factors to determine damage, unless you know eachother's builds, masteries, etc.

Ice_Warrior · Post by **Ice_Warrior** » Wed May 31, 2006 12:12 am

both ice and fie glavie are gud as each other for PVP, me and friend i'm ice lvl 56 he's fire lvl 57 but our masterys are the same, we both went naked and used lvl 32 glavies and had PVP, this was only fair way of testing our skills, we both put pot at 50% and who ever used first pot loses, this way i can see which is better, and guess what, ice kept winning cz he cudn't do many big hits whilst i used combos with ice and frost nova wind, after combos i linked up with soul and ghost spear den dragon flow, den i used soul again, i won, he used first pot. but den i got burnt and used a pot -__-", i was so pissed after dat, dis shows ice and fire are gud as each other at PVP, but its just depends on the type of build u like, ice = great surviability and also nice enuf dmg to kill other pure str, fire = crazy dmg but quite defenceless, they are just roar dmg, but i can wear protector as fire has to use garm because of nukers, nukers to ice is like shit on the floor, wen nukers use nuke, i use frost nova, this gives me a 50% chance of not having to tank the nuke, den i followed up with combos, to slow the twat down then used soul and ghost, if i crit nuker = dead if not crit soul agen = nuker dead, nukers cnt pot fast den i can deal dmg to dem.

Ice_Warrior · Post by **Ice_Warrior** » Wed May 31, 2006 12:15 am

ppl who dnt believe me try it for themselves it was quite fun, glavies are more group pvp den 1 on 1, i noticed after try stealing a fire blader, i got pwned after wasting 400 hp pots and 900 mp pots, dem Kd and stabs are just annoying.

specialedd · Post by **specialedd** » Wed May 31, 2006 12:16 am

Ice warrior what server are you on?
Id like to try this out myself

Ice_Warrior · Post by **Ice_Warrior** » Wed May 31, 2006 12:17 am

i kept freezing him, but his crit on blade was crazy, he did 2 KD crits and 2 crit stabs XD

Ice_Warrior · Post by **Ice_Warrior** » Wed May 31, 2006 12:17 am

i'm on xian but i just made another ice glavie on greece =D.

Ice_Warrior · Post by **Ice_Warrior** » Wed May 31, 2006 12:20 am

most ppl go for fire glavie because its a safe common build, everyone is like sheeps and scared to try other builds, fire glavie can do nice dmg but can also tank a bit, ice do gud dmg and can tank quite alot. wen fire and ice have pvp its just a pot fight, i always try to avoid any bladers, there damn annoying.

Ice_Warrior · Post by **Ice_Warrior** » Wed May 31, 2006 12:21 am

ice is more tactical compared to fire, ice u got to use right moves to be able to cast effect and do enuf dmg to kill the opponent, fire g;avies are just soul, ghost and hope for gud crits.

Ice_Warrior · Post by **Ice_Warrior** » Wed May 31, 2006 12:24 am

hope my opinion has helped u and before anyone asks i have used a fire glavie before, me and my friend den swap characters and tryed each others characters, fire still used first pot but like 3 secs later the ice has to use a pot, there literally equal, it all depends on the luck of stunning and the crit of weapon. i see ppl use crit 12 glavies and it still doesnt crit that often, wen it crits, IT CRITS!!!!!!!

specialedd · Post by **specialedd** » Wed May 31, 2006 12:31 am

Wana jump on xian and pvp me real fast?
How is ice tactical? u use ur 2 chains, after u do that for a while u use ghost spear or soul?Thats not more tactical than soul spear soul,ghost spear prince, soul spear truth reapeat....

Ice_Warrior · Post by **Ice_Warrior** » Wed May 31, 2006 12:32 am

lol it just feels like it, sure but wot lvl r u?

Ice_Warrior · Post by **Ice_Warrior** » Wed May 31, 2006 12:33 am

in a way it is if u r making use of frost nova wind, cz if i freeze u i can cancle ur SS and dats 50% chance with frost nova wind.

specialedd · Post by **specialedd** » Wed May 31, 2006 12:34 am

ingame name Specialedd, pm me when u log in and we will discuss a place

Ice_Warrior · Post by **Ice_Warrior** » Wed May 31, 2006 12:36 am

i need to kno ur lvl otherwise it wont work, cz i cba logging on if ur not atleast lvl 56 and masteries at lvl 54

specialedd · Post by **specialedd** » Wed May 31, 2006 12:38 am

im 59, but i dont care about the winning, i wana know how ice is more tactical. Thats what i want u to show me.

Ice_Warrior · Post by **Ice_Warrior** » Wed May 31, 2006 12:39 am

lol u want me to log on just to show u how i PVP? i rather try lvling my char up on greece and he's only lvl 37

Ice_Warrior · Post by **Ice_Warrior** » Wed May 31, 2006 12:40 am

sry mate maybe tommorrow, cz i played all night 2nite and its 4 in morning here, but i tell u what, u need a lvl 52 SOS glavie?

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