Pure STR Glavie

draftzero · Post by **draftzero** » Thu May 18, 2006 6:34 am

Anyone mind helping me out with what skills to pick for this build?

I'm thinking of 150 In glavie... 100 in Fire? and then 50 in lightning? would that be correct?
and then what skills should i pick?

any help?

i remember reading something on this on some other forum, but i can't find the forum... bleh.

Also which one should i build up first? or do it all at the same time?

I'm trying to achieve maximum dmg at all times...

kitary · Post by **kitary** » Thu May 18, 2006 8:32 am

max lvl is 70 soon to be 90
not more is known by the mass public about max lvl ever being 150

SuicideGrl · Post by **SuicideGrl** » Thu May 18, 2006 8:44 am

all depends on your playing style. some glaivers go for combos, some go for ghost and soul spears, mostly everyone goes for flying dragon. i personally find combos to be pretty useless in PvP, as the person can pot away most of the dmg before the combo is even done. glaivers are all about big, massive hits that do sick dmg, and combos just don't have that. lost of little hits means lots of chances for crits, but they're still smaller in dmg on average than a normal soul spear. however, combos own beasties in PvE, so it may be worth it to lvl them as well. if you have the SP, experiment a bit on what works best for you. i personally use flying dragon, soul spear, and ghost spear. i delvled my combo about 15 lvls ago and have never looked back. disclaimer: i am an int hybrid nuker who just happens to use spear skills a LOT, so i may not be the best source for this type of information. this is just my experience and what i've learned from the top two BlackHand players, both of whom are glaivers.

antiy4ho0 · Post by **antiy4ho0** » Thu May 18, 2006 5:10 pm

^Combos are useful in PvP, you just need to know when to use them. I use combos once in a while when a INT/Hybrid lives through Soul Spear and Ghost Spear and I know they're almost done, I just hit them with the 5 hit chain and that usually finishes them off. Sure, Soul Spear and Ghost Spear are overall much more useful in PvP I wouldn't say chains are completely useless. I also use them a lot in PvE.

draftzero · Post by **draftzero** » Thu May 18, 2006 5:38 pm

hmmm... I've been saving my SP points... i have a lvl 8 gap... char lvl is 24... and skill is lvl 16... should i wait or can i just start putting skills?

aznshadow · Post by **aznshadow** » Thu May 18, 2006 5:39 pm

I use both Soul, Ghost, and combos... together they make a great super combo lol.... for PVP its always Ice+Jade Spear+ Chain Spear+ Jade Spear+ Soul spear+Ghost Spear... decent speed and soul and jade spear have pretty short cooldown....especially Jade spear... I find it useful where combos leech away just enough life so my Soul+Ghost spear can finish them off

Ice_Warrior · Post by **Ice_Warrior** » Tue May 30, 2006 3:54 pm

ice and combos with crit 8+ glavie with +3 = lots of crits, linking 4 hit and 5 hit along with ice means, slow down enemy or freeze and maybe a few nice crits and also den follow up with soul and ghost spear, ppl say ice is bad for glavie as they are meant to do crazy crits so they use fire, but fire glavie only use soul and ghost as they dnt have any effect to deal, even if they have crit 12 weap dey rarely do enuf crits to kill sum1 in PVP whilst only using soul, ghost and dragon flow, this is y they always have pot wars, ice allows u to survive longer without having to use loadz of pots and laso does enuf dmg to kill any str builds if u get nice crits on combos, soul or ghost, if u KB dem u just use dragon flow to save time running and also using combos after using soula dn ghost can slow down there potiing alot so u can follow up with another strong move after using combos to stop dem potting off ur dmg as glavie skills take a long time to cast.

ShizKnight · Post by **ShizKnight** » Tue May 30, 2006 6:35 pm

Ice and Combos is the worst combination for Glavie ever. Soul Spear Truth+Soul Spear Move, and Ghost Spear after a big crit. Best PvP combo. After you get Soul, replace Truth with it, and use Truth instead of Move.

Ice_Warrior · Post by **Ice_Warrior** » Tue May 30, 2006 7:22 pm

i not saying only usew combos, but u can use combos to slow enemys down like nukers, cz i kno alot of fire glavies die from nukers because they blok alot of hard hits and glavie using soul spear all the time is not smart on a nuker as they cast really slow and also nuker usually has a high blok shield as they have low health, and ghost spear is gud but knocking a nuker away from u is not clever at all, also knocking a bow away is not clever, dats y using ice with combos with nice crit weap it can do enuf dmg to kill sum1, if u link 4 hit and 5 hit together or 4 hit and 6 hit at lvl 69, then follow up with soul spear soul if ur high lvl enuf other wise truth, den use ghost straight after it, den frost nova wind and truth or soul agen and follow up with ghost, if not die, start with combos to slow dem down agen.

Ice_Warrior · Post by **Ice_Warrior** » Tue May 30, 2006 7:27 pm

have u notice wen a glavie using soul spear and ghost spear constantly nvr kills anyone it just makes it a pot war or the glavie ends up dying, this is because the skill cast is slow so if u deal a strong crit and follow up with ghost and they nearly dead, and then u use soul spear agen they have time to pot off most of the dmg before u can get another hit in, and that hit wont always be a crit so basically u start all over agen, if u keep using these skills, ur basically looking for a few nice crits in a row or maybe the oppenent suddenly runs away or stops fighting because it wasting pots, but if u use soul then ghost to take a chunk of dmg den follow up with 4 hit and 5 hit combos, this then slows down there potting rate and then u have a chance to use soul and ghost agen and if u get crit they wud be dead but if u dnt maybe a follow up with dragon flow shud kill dem.

ShizKnight · Post by **ShizKnight** » Tue May 30, 2006 7:29 pm

I have NO idea who you watch PvPing, but I almost always decimate nukers my level in job fights. Hell, I took down one who was a weapon above me.

Ice_Warrior · Post by **Ice_Warrior** » Tue May 30, 2006 7:30 pm

and i'm not saying fire is bad but i prefer ice because blader have lesser chance to kill me as i have buffs dat to will lower the dmg i take which means bladers will do less dmg then they already do, and i can freeze dem so they will have a hard time trying to KD me all the time, dnt say use pills or 100% acc cz dat doesn't work, even if u pill, the skill stays slow untill it is finished.

Ice_Warrior · Post by **Ice_Warrior** » Tue May 30, 2006 7:33 pm

ye u may do, but if u see a nuker with blok 17+ shield u will have hard time killing if u constant using slow hard moves and nukers each nuker take bout 1/3 of ur health depending wot u wear. and bladers u dnt stand a chance cz u wear garment means low phy defence, and u cnt slow bladers down from KDing u all the timeso 1/2 of the time ur on the floor.

Ice_Warrior · Post by **Ice_Warrior** » Tue May 30, 2006 7:34 pm

trudt me mate if u get high crit weap and use a combo every so often maybe to slow down der potting rate it really does help. and u have higher chance of getting crits whilst using combos and u can follow up with soul and ghost this shud pwn the nukers or bowers.

ShizKnight · Post by **ShizKnight** » Tue May 30, 2006 7:37 pm

The crits are weaker too, and unless it crits on the strongest hit, its worthless.

Ice_Warrior · Post by **Ice_Warrior** » Tue May 30, 2006 7:40 pm

but think about it, a nuker has bout 3 - 4k health and u get crit which is bout double dmg, and combo is 5 hit, if u get few crits in ur combo the nukers health is already down to half cz if u get crit, it will be ATLEAST 1k maybe 2k if u have crit on last hit, dats like more than half of nukers health has gone, then u can use soul spear to finish dem off, but if ur ice glavie (me^^) u can use combos to freeze or frostbite the nuker to stopt heir nukes and follow up with a soul and ghost they are dead.

ShizKnight · Post by **ShizKnight** » Tue May 30, 2006 7:43 pm

Or you could use Soul Spear Soul, and follow up with Ghost Spear and kill them with ONE crit.

Ice_Warrior · Post by **Ice_Warrior** » Tue May 30, 2006 7:44 pm

seriously man believe me, ice glavie is a better choice well dats my opinion, alot of ppl go for fire because they do crazy crits and dmg, but u noticed u most videos u nvr see them satying alive, they can tank a bit then die, because in group war they dnt have the skills to stay alive as ice glavie can freeze ppl around and have nice buffs.

Ice_Warrior · Post by **Ice_Warrior** » Tue May 30, 2006 7:48 pm

thats wot u think, u cnt kill a nuker with 1 crit as they wud use armour and have shield, this takes alot of dmg away, maybe they'll have REALLY less health but they wont die and if u try use another big move like soul and ghost they have chance of bloking. and they can also KD which gives dem loadz of time to pot back der health, and all nukers u see now use ice imbue which is ..... annoying cz they hit so fast ur constantly moving like a twat.

Ice_Warrior · Post by **Ice_Warrior** » Tue May 30, 2006 7:50 pm

but if u use combo, u have high chance of getting a crit and also they
wont be able to blok all the hits in a combo. Combos are really gud skills to slow down potting and gud for finish of shielders.

ShizKnight · Post by **ShizKnight** » Tue May 30, 2006 7:53 pm

No nukers I see use Ice Imbue.

If you use comboes, you have more chances to get a crit, but you also have a better chance of being blocked.

And also, the reason why chains are held to be 'bad' is because when you pot, it will heal hp OVER TIME, and as you pot more, that healing over time overlaps, and the longer it takes for you to finish your ability, the more the healing overlaps, making it easier to recover the damage.

Ice_Warrior · Post by **Ice_Warrior** » Tue May 30, 2006 7:56 pm

yes but if u link 4 hit and 5 hit or 4 hit and 6 hit at lvl 69, and u get a few crits, dats gonna out dmg ur pots and if u follow up with soul spear soul or truth and den link with ghost there nearly dead cz they cant pot that fast as u need to wait a bit after each pot.