warrior or rogue

MrLonely · Post by **MrLonely** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:15 am

I have always thougt that warriors are another bladers except with 15sec pot delay, that cant kill shit, only die. But recently i have started to like them, cause of armor/sprint assault/huge def boost.

At the moment i have lvl42 rogue, and i was thinking of switching to warrior.

Im not asking what is the best build, but just is warrior ok at later levels, like which builds they can kill and which ones are their natural enemies, mostly can they survive rogue or strong wizard attacks long enough to finish them

Also is pot delay huge loss for them, for rogues its nothin, since they kill before opponent even reacts

Thanks in advance

Milky · Post by **Milky** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:16 am

Warriors own hard with half decent gear... o.o

Necrobat · Post by **Necrobat** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:22 am

From what I've read, pure Str Warriors (most notable is S/S) with Cleric subclass (just enough to heal themselves and resurrect) are a formidable force. Maybe this could be worth looking into before switching?

Then again, Rogues are a powerful class in PvP and jobbing. (again, from what I've read)

drey7000 · Post by **drey7000** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 10:03 am

MrLonely wrote:I have always thougt that warriors are another bladers except with 15sec pot delay, that cant kill shit, only die. But recently i have started to like them, cause of armor/sprint assault/huge def boost.

At the moment i have lvl42 rogue, and i was thinking of switching to warrior.

Im not asking what is the best build, but just is warrior ok at later levels, like which builds they can kill and which ones are their natural enemies, mostly can they survive rogue or strong wizard attacks long enough to finish them

Also is pot delay huge loss for them, for rogues its nothin, since they kill before opponent even reacts

Thanks in advance

Well 1st of all what kind of warrior do you have? (1h, dual axes or 2h?)

Now i have a lvl 42 2h war also. I really like it because I find theyre really good in pvp. The only class i find trouble beating are wizards, who can easily 1-2 shot you if theyre your same level. As for rogues its all about who sees who 1st really, and if the warrior is fast enough to react before the rogue kills him.
Also, you might find problems with crossbow rogues because although you have descry, a crossbow rogue does not need to get close to kill you. A good crossbow rogue will kill you before you get to him and if hes good enough you'll before you even react. With dagger rogues i normally have enough time to react to interrupt them (with KB, stun, or KD) then kill them.
Now another problem with warriors is they cannot see invisible wizards even with descry. Now since warriors use armor, their magical defence isnt all that great, thus you just might survive the 1st blow, but if you can kill him fast enough before he launches the 2nd nuke (which is very difficult, for me anyway) then you just might be able to interrupt him and kill him.
Now I think rogues are better in PvP and jobbing than warriors, but as a warrior you are welcomed a lot more in parties and play a much more important role, thus you might find it easier leveling as a warrior.
Now for your pot delay question, even with the chinese auto pot the warrior might just be able to witstand another nuke, but it might be a bit more useful againt other classes i suppose. It does kind of limit their tanking capabilities without a cleric, but this is my assumption: I dont THINK the pot delay is that much of a loss for them in pvp. As for rogues, its just like you said, the opponent will most likely be dead before they have time time to react.

nphillip · Post by **nphillip** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:13 am

change

MrLonely · Post by **MrLonely** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:38 am

nphillip wrote:change

Well, im not kind of person who does on a instant something, i need opinions with reason and something like that

@Drey: Thanks, that is something i wanted to hear, so its OK at pvp. Weird, you said its easier might be to level warrior than rogue, that was what i was afraid of playing warrior, i thought slow leveling, since with my rogue i can 1 hit my lvl mobs and 2hit up to like 6 lvls higher.

Interesting, so warriors make decent fighers, except problems with wizards and crossbow rogues? Again, that is one of reasons i wanted to switch, i thought full str S/S warrior is their worst enemy

Thanks again to all who responded, gives me again headache which to choose

phisejr · Post by **phisejr** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 1:29 pm

IMO I like the Warrios S/S because they survive the longest of all the classes, and can get mobbed and even solo party mobs the same lvl with No + blues or no NPC gear.

When i was on zues Server i was a lvl 41 Warrior/Cleric and i was main party tank. I did change from rogue which was good and bad.

The Good is that S/S warrior can survive between the pot delay, can get mobbed by 2- 3 monsters, and the HP up buff saves your life. And with the Cleric as the Sub, you can cast that Defense up Buff and monsters can do little to no damage to you.

The bad is they kill alot slower and move alot slower. and Cant take out mobs Higer lvls than you like the Rogue can, making them Level up alot slower.

I would mention more but om at school so ehh.

darkmaster21 · Post by **darkmaster21** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 1:54 pm

Stay rogue dude its WAY more powerful because of the buffs, trust me stay rogue.

binnosh · Post by **binnosh** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:35 pm

played a rogue to lvl 30 and got sick of it, died every few mobs cause i wasn't careful enough

playing warrior now doing both s/s and 2H and i love it, i kill pretty fast with my 2H and when i meet giants/party mobs i swap to s/s and tank em to death, i love it

evilforce_LT · Post by **evilforce_LT** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 6:43 pm

i think, then u shud farm alot and get them bougt, if u need tanker use warior ,and if u need fast killing then rouge :roll:

phisejr · Post by **phisejr** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 12:06 am

binnosh wrote:played a rogue to lvl 30 and got sick of it, died every few mobs cause i wasn't careful enough

playing warrior now doing both s/s and 2H and i love it, i kill pretty fast with my 2H and when i meet giants/party mobs i swap to s/s and tank em to death, i love it

I Second that, Same reason i went to Warrior

pengachu · Post by **pengachu** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 12:35 am

have all of you forgot the warrior passive skill at lvl 60 that literally make up for the low magic def?? its like the SICKEST skill ever! basically i will survive like3-4 nukes cuz of this skill and before they can cast the final move to finish me off i should be able to sprint assult and follow by any other move to finish full int characters off in a hit or two at max.

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