Str hybrid bow Q'

[kumori]

Current lvl 34 and went full str is it still possible to get a str hybrid bow? how much int should i add to what lvl? what is a good str/int ratio for str hybrid anyways O_o?

[Pawnage]

whats ur goal? like 90% phy;95%?

[darkmaster21]

Dude stay pure STR you need powerful crits...

[Hitman144]

str bows for best crit builds and they own now cuz of the new skills ,

but the best hybrid for bow is 70:70 alot of people been saying and with enough blues at high lvls u can make 80:80 ( phy% : mag% )

[darkmaster21]

Rofl 70:70? Dude theres 3 problems with a 70:70 build bowman

1: They die so easily its not even funny. (Because they have no shield NOR HP Increase Passive)

2. They don't deal enough damage to kill someone before they kill you.

3. Weak CRITICALS!!!!!!

Bowman HAVE TO HAVE powerful criticals because thats why JoyMax made Silkroad bowman have 2 SKILLS with Critical Increase...Anti Devil AND Strong Spirit both have Critical Increase

[Juicy]

3. Weak CRITICALS!!!!!!

they have weak crits cuz ther non crit damage is more then a pure str.

[darkmaster21]

Bowman HAVE TO HAVE powerful criticals because thats why JoyMax made Silkroad bowman have 2 SKILLS with Critical Increase...Anti Devil AND Strong Spirit both have Critical Increase

Here read that, that might help a little Juicy >>

[Juicy]

Bowman HAVE TO HAVE powerful criticals because thats why JoyMax made Silkroad bowman have 2 SKILLS with Critical Increase...Anti Devil AND Strong Spirit both have Critical Increase

Here read that, that might help a little Juicy >>

ask anyone they'll say they have low crits but higher non crit damage...

[criticalss]

Rofl 70:70? Dude theres 3 problems with a 70:70 build bowman

1: They die so easily its not even funny. (Because they have no shield NOR HP Increase Passive)

They have mana shield, knock bad every few seconds ecause of 5 combo and stun

2. They don't deal enough damage to kill someone before they kill you.

more damage than str bow and more range than nuker

3. Weak CRITICALS!!!!!!

its already proven they're crits are matched if not better than str's

Bowman HAVE TO HAVE powerful criticals because thats why JoyMax made Silkroad bowman have 2 SKILLS with Critical Increase...Anti Devil AND Strong Spirit both have Critical Increase

go for 70/70 or 90% or full str

[elnawawi]

Rofl 70:70? Dude theres 3 problems with a 70:70 build bowman

1: They die so easily its not even funny. (Because they have no shield NOR HP Increase Passive)

80% mag will give very good Mp that let him use snow shield ..

2. They don't deal enough damage to kill someone before they kill you.

sometimes they wil deal like or more than hybird INT

3. Weak CRITICALS!!!!!!

80 : 80 bow do like 11k crit on lvl 80 glavier !!!! can you tell me what's the max crit can pure str do on glaviers ?

and here is the prove of all my words :
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=schiedam90

[DeShin]

Just don't care on what others said, most importantly to your preference and playstyle, you like highest crits, then go pure str, you like unique then hybrid.

[kumori]

I don wanna reply to heavily on crits =/ i think am liking the 90% phy ratio but now that i think about it i can actually afford to +int on all my equips anyways, so i might just up my mag. balance /w equips alone =/ but having a bit more normal atk is pretty useful...

Sooooooo how much weaker is a 90% phy hybrid bow's crit compared to a full str? it can't be that much right?

[bakafish]

14k crits on lv80 glaivers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_cLUfRGIGw

[Doctor_MOS]

14k crits on lv80 glaivers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_cLUfRGIGw

yep, but undutchable isn't full farmed, you don't know what type of gear they are using... but i think full str crits will be higher, but 80:80 crits are pritty heavy too!
i think he won't get 3k extra damage when undutchable is full farmed

[bakafish]

STR hybrid can't outdamage Pure STR criticals, you think 70:70 can?

[Doctor_MOS]

STR hybrid can't outdamage Pure STR criticals, you think 70:70 can?

did i say they would be higher then full str crits? no i said i think that it will be less than 3k

[bakafish]

i think he won't get 3k extra damage when undutchable is full farmed

This sentence confuses me.

[Stress]

*cough* liquidsmooth

[bakafish]

*cough* liquidsmooth

lol he's dead now. WORLD PEACE.

[kumori]

Lol its so funny how every thread someone always goes off topic =P

but anyways i decided, still gonna go Full str with int on equips to help boost my dmg. Thxs for your opinion anyways

[bakafish]

Lol its so funny how every thread someone always goes off topic =P

but anyways i decided, still gonna go Full str with int on equips to help boost my dmg. Thxs for your opinion anyways

Remember, there's no blues stats which are bad.

[I_Chai_Vang_U]

Rofl 70:70? Dude theres 3 problems with a 70:70 build bowman

1: They die so easily its not even funny. (Because they have no shield NOR HP Increase Passive)

80% mag will give very good Mp that let him use snow shield ..

2. They don't deal enough damage to kill someone before they kill you.

sometimes they wil deal like or more than hybird INT

3. Weak CRITICALS!!!!!!

80 : 80 bow do like 11k crit on lvl 80 glavier !!!! can you tell me what's the max crit can pure str do on glaviers ?

and here is the prove of all my words :
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=schiedam90

wrong...pure str crit harder...I did 12k with same bow on lvl 80 glaiver...

[Doctor_MOS]

i think he won't get 3k extra damage when undutchable is full farmed

This sentence confuses me.

sorry im from the netherlands, let me try to explain
ok, BakaFish you are full farmed and since ur making the best full str crits on this forum, i assume you've got almost max blues too...

Undutchable is comming close with max blue's with his gear, so he isn't going to pimp his 11k damage with that...however Undutchable (aka kaws whatever) isn't full farmed/full skilled etc...this means he doesn't have reached his max damage yet

so the difference between ur crits and his will be less in the future

was i clear?

[elnawawi]

14k crits on lv80 glaivers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_cLUfRGIGw

lol .. you call this pots war pvp ?! .. nice vedio prove that JoyMax reduced pure str bow chances to die against glavier from 100% to 30 % by the new skills .. xD ..

yes you do 14 k crit damge .. but what you can do after that as pure str bow ? you crit with 14 k .. but you will not kill glavier fast enough even with your fully farmed charecter .. 80 : 80 bow will do total damge better than you .. I will try to make some calculates and tell you later

80:80 bow kill glaviers easier for sure let's say he have +20%~30% more chance than pure str to kill .. and can kill bladers that thing pure str can't .. and can stand against european rouge too.. and he is 50% better and faster in PVE also .. and better for unique hunting .. he will take the kill from from all pure str and pure int in the server as he will not run when see elite royal guards as pure int always run .. and will not run from shamans as pure str run .. and off course he will do more damge on yarakan than pure str ..

And the best thing about 80:80 bow is that 80:80 bow more funny and enjoyable ..

[bakafish]

i think he won't get 3k extra damage when undutchable is full farmed

This sentence confuses me.

sorry im from the netherlands, let me try to explain
ok, BakaFish you are full farmed and since ur making the best full str crits on this forum, i assume you've got almost max blues too...

Undutchable is comming close with max blue's with his gear, so he isn't going to pimp his 11k damage with that...however Undutchable (aka kaws whatever) isn't full farmed/full skilled etc...this means he doesn't have reached his max damage yet

so the difference between ur crits and his will be less in the future

was i clear?

I should have known, Dutch for Dutch eh. No offence, I live in NL myself. By the way, i lack 3 STR on gears. Depends on what glaivers he's fighting. One of the glaivers in the movie had sosun garments while another had everything +5. Even if KaWs were to be fully farmed, i still seriously doubt
that hybrid will outcrit a Pure STR.

And the best thing about 80:80 bow is that 80:80 bow more funny and enjoyable ..

Another confusing sentence.

Yes, I agree that Hybrid has higher DPS than Pure STR. However, do you think hybrids can tank as well a Pure STR? Do you think that you can survive for 1 minute without Snow Shield with those crits? Do you think you can deal as much damage if your opponent were to wear Protectors?

Once again, I'm gonna say we are yet to see which bow build is the best because each has their own pros and cons.

[Doctor_MOS]

14k crits on lv80 glaivers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_cLUfRGIGw

lol .. you call this pots war pvp ?! .. nice vedio prove that JoyMax reduced pure str bow chances to die against glavier from 100% to 30 % by the new skills .. xD ..

yes you do 14 k crit damge .. but what you can do after that as pure str bow ? you crit with 14 k .. but you will not kill glavier fast enough even with your fully farmed charecter .. 80 : 80 bow will do total damge better than you .. I will try to make some calculates and tell you later

80:80 bow kill glaviers easier for sure let's say he have +20%~30% more chance than pure str to kill .. and can kill bladers that thing pure str can't .. and can stand against european rouge too.. and he is 50% better and faster in PVE also .. and better for unique hunting .. he will take the kill from from all pure str and pure int in the server as he will not run when see elite royal guards as pure int always run .. and will not run from shamans as pure str run .. and off course he will do more damge on yarakan than pure str ..

And the best thing about 80:80 bow is that 80:80 bow more funny and enjoyable ..

this is all about preference, some people like to tank better than to deal damage don't you think?
maybe you've even got some people who like to die pure int bow ftw! (in pvp aspects =p)

[bakafish]

I think you meant Fun in your last post. LOL @ Pure INT Bow

[kumori]

14k crits on lv80 glaivers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_cLUfRGIGw

lol .. you call this pots war pvp ?! .. nice vedio prove that JoyMax reduced pure str bow chances to die against glavier from 100% to 30 % by the new skills .. xD ..

yes you do 14 k crit damge .. but what you can do after that as pure str bow ? you crit with 14 k .. but you will not kill glavier fast enough even with your fully farmed charecter .. 80 : 80 bow will do total damge better than you .. I will try to make some calculates and tell you later

80:80 bow kill glaviers easier for sure let's say he have +20%~30% more chance than pure str to kill .. and can kill bladers that thing pure str can't .. and can stand against european rouge too.. and he is 50% better and faster in PVE also .. and better for unique hunting .. he will take the kill from from all pure str and pure int in the server as he will not run when see elite royal guards as pure int always run .. and will not run from shamans as pure str run .. and off course he will do more damge on yarakan than pure str ..

And the best thing about 80:80 bow is that 80:80 bow more funny and enjoyable ..

This is what I think an 80:80 bower is nothing without it's equipment, B/c you need extra equip stats to get to 80:80 anyways.

Pure str is more straight forward and playable w/o pimped gear

Only way to prove whos stronger is to have a lvl 80 pure str bow vs. a lvl 80 hybrid bow /w Full npc gear.

[bakafish]

That's unfair, because with NPC gears, Hybrids are for sure to lose as they depend a lot on their blues from their gears.

[e-sporter]

Rofl 70:70? Dude theres 3 problems with a 70:70 build bowman

1: They die so easily its not even funny. (Because they have no shield NOR HP Increase Passive)

2. They don't deal enough damage to kill someone before they kill you.

3. Weak CRITICALS!!!!!!

Bowman HAVE TO HAVE powerful criticals because thats why JoyMax made Silkroad bowman have 2 SKILLS with Critical Increase...Anti Devil AND Strong Spirit both have Critical Increase

... No comment, anyway .. I pvp with my bowman its hybrid and it rapes anything. Joymax didn't make this game just to make "Pure" builds. It would be boring. You need to find the right hybrid build. I would say my build is the best in the game and won't tell anyone :> PEAcE