best euro solo character

Rbizzle187 · Post by **Rbizzle187** » Sat Sep 08, 2007 2:03 am

i solo alot on euro so i want to know what is the best solo build and also tell why its good or not

DeShin · Post by **DeShin** » Sat Sep 08, 2007 4:39 am

Oh you said you solo alot on euro chars, then you are the one to tell us which euro is best at solo.

It's pretty "hard" to solo using euro chars, especially completing quest or even fighting giants. If you want to say the best solo euro char I will pick 1 handed sword shield for STR char and warlock for INT char.

Firefly_ro · Post by **Firefly_ro** » Sat Sep 08, 2007 5:57 am

1h ? my opinion : rogue with x-bow. 1h kills slow,moves slow,dies slow though.

Ell · Post by **Ell** » Sat Sep 08, 2007 6:10 am

Yeah usually x bow with extreme on is just like a chinese nuker, 1 hit kills.

DeShin · Post by **DeShin** » Sat Sep 08, 2007 6:20 am

Rogue can't do much without the help of pt member, def is cut off 75% and xbow hp is cut off 50%, giant 3 hit ko you in seconds. 1 handed sword kill slow, that's why can solo, due to the def is high enough.

Milky · Post by **Milky** » Sat Sep 08, 2007 6:32 am

1H Sword with shield isn't good, dmg is worth nothing... 2hs warrior or xbow rogue are the best.

Ell · Post by **Ell** » Sat Sep 08, 2007 6:43 am

DeShin wrote:Rogue can't do much without the help of pt member, def is cut off 75% and xbow hp is cut off 50%, giant 3 hit ko you in seconds. 1 handed sword kill slow, that's why can solo, due to the def is high enough.

Well don't take on giants then? Besides 2h can kd, which allows it to tank also without sacrificing damage.

DeShin · Post by **DeShin** » Sat Sep 08, 2007 6:45 am

Ell wrote:Well don't take on giants then? Besides 2h can kd, which allows it to tank also without sacrificing damage.

Yeap, I'm a 2 handed sword, I know. Euro warriors mostly.

Gokenzul · Post by **Gokenzul** » Sat Sep 08, 2007 6:55 am

Wizard.

RMP · Post by **RMP** » Sat Sep 08, 2007 7:40 am

DeShin wrote:Rogue can't do much without the help of pt member, def is cut off 75% and xbow hp is cut off 50%, giant 3 hit ko you in seconds. 1 handed sword kill slow, that's why can solo, due to the def is high enough.

:O

Srry, but you don't know anything about roges, i'm a rogue with Bard for sub, lvl 42 with incomplete lvl 40masteries, and im now at hotan monkeys soloing most of the time, i can kill regulars monkeys (both classes) with 2 hits: KD + KB, or PS + FS, (1 in fact if first one crits), regular champs 3 hits, party mobs and giants, just switch to daggers and all go down. And by the way the giants and party mobs are the only ones that can touch me. This is with Xbow desperate, without Xbow Desperate, i can kill party mobs without switch to daggers and never be even close to 2/3 of my hp, but is more inneficient of course (slower killing and more hp/mp pots consumed). I can also kill spiders & flowers, but the i need 3 hits so its faster and safest to go against monkeys.

Rogue/Bard or Rogue/Cleric its perhaps the best Euro char for solo period.

Salu2.

DeShin · Post by **DeShin** » Sat Sep 08, 2007 7:48 am

RMP wrote::O

Srry, but you don't know anything about roges, i'm a rogue with Bard for sub, lvl 42 with incomplete lvl 40masteries, and im now at hotan monkeys soloing most of the time, i can kill regulars monkeys (both classes) with 2 hits: KD + KB, or PS + FS, (1 in fact if first one crits), regular champs 3 hits, party mobs and giants, just switch to daggers and all go down. And by the way the giants and party mobs are the only ones that can touch me. This is with Xbow desperate, without Xbow Desperate, i can kill party mobs without switch to daggers and never be even close to 2/3 of my hp, but is more inneficient of course (slower killing and more hp/mp pots consumed). I can also kill spiders & flowers, but the i need 3 hits so its faster and safest to go against monkeys.

Rogue/Bard or Rogue/Cleric its perhaps the best Euro char for solo period.

Salu2.

o_O yes of course, I'm not a rogue and I am not the one who going to flame people, I'm giving my opinions. Because you know how to play with, of course not all can like you, you have both xbow and dagger. Not all the people playing euro like you know how to kill mob fast before mob touch you, everyone has its own tactic and style. Of course you can always turn it off CE or DD, I know that, and everyone knows that. What about killing giant that is above your level?

dakocemenih · Post by **dakocemenih** » Sat Sep 08, 2007 10:13 am

rogue/bard xbow(high crits) with KD and KB skill, woot !!!

Sylhana · Post by **Sylhana** » Sat Sep 08, 2007 10:50 am

Best solo euro char for a pure str is a 1h warrior/xbow rogue, ie my current build

I use xbow most of the time, and switch to 1h if theres a pt mob or giant.

^owned^ · Post by **^owned^** » Sat Sep 08, 2007 11:05 am

Best solo in Euro is either rogue+bard or wizard+bard

Snudge · Post by **Snudge** » Sat Sep 08, 2007 11:23 am

Wizard-> AoE green grinding.

Zing · Post by **Zing** » Sat Sep 08, 2007 11:35 am

I'd say strength warrior is overall the best European solo build/class.

You can fight party generals, party champions, giants, and regular mobs your level and higher. Can't beat the survivability.

xene · Post by **xene** » Sat Sep 08, 2007 12:27 pm

depends what lvl mobs u train but if u train on like ur same lvl i think mage is fastest.. because multi attacks u can easly 1 hit 4 mobs at same time^^
but against giants ur pretty screwed.. or u need to go zerk and hope fear works first time so u can finish him off before he attacks u again:p

RMP · Post by **RMP** » Sat Sep 08, 2007 3:05 pm

DeShin wrote:
RMP wrote::O

Srry, but you don't know anything about roges, i'm a rogue with Bard for sub, lvl 42 with incomplete lvl 40masteries, and im now at hotan monkeys soloing most of the time, i can kill regulars monkeys (both classes) with 2 hits: KD + KB, or PS + FS, (1 in fact if first one crits), regular champs 3 hits, party mobs and giants, just switch to daggers and all go down. And by the way the giants and party mobs are the only ones that can touch me. This is with Xbow desperate, without Xbow Desperate, i can kill party mobs without switch to daggers and never be even close to 2/3 of my hp, but is more inneficient of course (slower killing and more hp/mp pots consumed). I can also kill spiders & flowers, but the i need 3 hits so its faster and safest to go against monkeys.

Rogue/Bard or Rogue/Cleric its perhaps the best Euro char for solo period.

Salu2.

o_O yes of course, I'm not a rogue and I am not the one who going to flame people, I'm giving my opinions. Because you know how to play with, of course not all can like you, you have both xbow and dagger. Not all the people playing euro like you know how to kill mob fast before mob touch you, everyone has its own tactic and style. Of course you can always turn it off CE or DD, I know that, and everyone knows that. What about killing giant that is above your level?

Srry, im not intend to flame you at all, maybe because i'm not very proficient with english, sometimes my statements are plain and can sound rudes also, but isn't my interest to go arround flaming people. And About killing giants above my lvl, well, I'm lvl 42, Small Bunwangs (don't have Champs or giants) are 44, and Bunwangs (have both, Champs & giants) are 45, I know, aren't a lot higher than me, but enougth to see his name red.

Salu2.

elnawawi · Post by **elnawawi** » Sat Sep 08, 2007 3:09 pm

DeShin wrote:
RMP wrote::O

Srry, but you don't know anything about roges, i'm a rogue with Bard for sub, lvl 42 with incomplete lvl 40masteries, and im now at hotan monkeys soloing most of the time, i can kill regulars monkeys (both classes) with 2 hits: KD + KB, or PS + FS, (1 in fact if first one crits), regular champs 3 hits, party mobs and giants, just switch to daggers and all go down. And by the way the giants and party mobs are the only ones that can touch me. This is with Xbow desperate, without Xbow Desperate, i can kill party mobs without switch to daggers and never be even close to 2/3 of my hp, but is more inneficient of course (slower killing and more hp/mp pots consumed). I can also kill spiders & flowers, but the i need 3 hits so its faster and safest to go against monkeys.

Rogue/Bard or Rogue/Cleric its perhaps the best Euro char for solo period.

Salu2.

o_O yes of course, I'm not a rogue and I am not the one who going to flame people, I'm giving my opinions. Because you know how to play with, of course not all can like you, you have both xbow and dagger. Not all the people playing euro like you know how to kill mob fast before mob touch you, everyone has its own tactic and style. Of course you can always turn it off CE or DD, I know that, and everyone knows that. What about killing giant that is above your level?

Loool .. belive me you really don't know about rogues ... DeShin isn't the best rouge you can meet ...

he is lvl 42 and killing lvl 48 monsters at max with both crossbow and dagger ...

I'm lvl 40 crossbow with degree 5 , 38+3 weapon
I can kill lvl 50 mujigi in 3 hits before they touch me ...
killing lvl 52 heshade ( mag attack ) in 3 hits too as she will not 1 hit me ( her damge is 1700 and my HP while extreme is 2000 )
killing lvl 54 penons in 3~4 hits
and kill them all in 2 hits when I have crit on them

So what you can say about rouge kiling +14 lvl monsters .. I think rouge will solo better than all chinese builds in general and champion monsters ...

And about gaints .. make sure that you have cleric mastery .. when you see a gaint switch to cleric , bless spell , and with zerk you can kill 2 gaints and some other general monsters within these 45 sec ...

And about gaints party .. they will kill you in extreme easily .. but cancel it and fight as a full str build .. vigors will shorten the delay to 7 sec only .. cleric mastery will help a lot ... also your tactics will be the greatest factor ..
When you KB the monster and don't attack him after that he will stop attacking you and turn to your wolf ... let the wolf tank sometime and make your HP full again and make sure that pots are ready for use (cooldown time ended) .. or even cooldown time of bless spell ended ...

There are a lot of tricks you can play as a rogue .. but you only need to do it

DeShin · Post by **DeShin** » Sat Sep 08, 2007 3:57 pm

elnawawi wrote:Loool .. belive me you really don't know about rogues ... DeShin isn't the best rouge you can meet ...

he is lvl 42 and killing lvl 48 monsters at max with both crossbow and dagger ...

I'm lvl 40 crossbow with degree 5 , 38+3 weapon
I can kill lvl 50 mujigi in 3 hits before they touch me ...
killing lvl 52 heshade ( mag attack ) in 3 hits too as she will not 1 hit me ( her damge is 1700 and my HP while extreme is 2000 )
killing lvl 54 penons in 3~4 hits
and kill them all in 2 hits when I have crit on them

So what you can say about rouge kiling +14 lvl monsters .. I think rouge will solo better than all chinese builds in general and champion monsters ...

And about gaints .. make sure that you have cleric mastery .. when you see a gaint switch to cleric , bless spell , and with zerk you can kill 2 gaints and some other general monsters within these 45 sec ...

And about gaints party .. they will kill you in extreme easily .. but cancel it and fight as a full str build .. vigors will shorten the delay to 7 sec only .. cleric mastery will help a lot ... also your tactics will be the greatest factor ..
When you KB the monster and don't attack him after that he will stop attacking you and turn to your wolf ... let the wolf tank sometime and make your HP full again and make sure that pots are ready for use (cooldown time ended) .. or even cooldown time of bless spell ended ...

There are a lot of tricks you can play as a rogue .. but you only need to do it

Lol, if you want flaming people, please consider it carefully next time, this is not a thread to flame people and I am not a rogue. And it's ROGUE not ROUGE. If you feel like you are not belong here, please leave. This thread is to help people to understand clearly about what they think on the best solo euro char.

fnk1 · Post by **fnk1** » Sat Sep 08, 2007 4:07 pm

the trick is to have a couple x-large hp pots with u for fighting giants. i'm in the forties with my rog and it works wonders.

RMP · Post by **RMP** » Sat Sep 08, 2007 4:17 pm

elnawawi wrote:
DeShin wrote:
RMP wrote::O

Srry, but you don't know anything about roges, i'm a rogue with Bard for sub, lvl 42 with incomplete lvl 40masteries, and im now at hotan monkeys soloing most of the time, i can kill regulars monkeys (both classes) with 2 hits: KD + KB, or PS + FS, (1 in fact if first one crits), regular champs 3 hits, party mobs and giants, just switch to daggers and all go down. And by the way the giants and party mobs are the only ones that can touch me. This is with Xbow desperate, without Xbow Desperate, i can kill party mobs without switch to daggers and never be even close to 2/3 of my hp, but is more inneficient of course (slower killing and more hp/mp pots consumed). I can also kill spiders & flowers, but the i need 3 hits so its faster and safest to go against monkeys.

Rogue/Bard or Rogue/Cleric its perhaps the best Euro char for solo period.

Salu2.

o_O yes of course, I'm not a rogue and I am not the one who going to flame people, I'm giving my opinions. Because you know how to play with, of course not all can like you, you have both xbow and dagger. Not all the people playing euro like you know how to kill mob fast before mob touch you, everyone has its own tactic and style. Of course you can always turn it off CE or DD, I know that, and everyone knows that. What about killing giant that is above your level?

Loool .. belive me you really don't know about rogues ... DeShin isn't the best rouge you can meet ...

he is lvl 42 and killing lvl 48 monsters at max with both crossbow and dagger ...

I'm lvl 40 crossbow with degree 5 , 38+3 weapon
I can kill lvl 50 mujigi in 3 hits before they touch me ...
killing lvl 52 heshade ( mag attack ) in 3 hits too as she will not 1 hit me ( her damge is 1700 and my HP while extreme is 2000 )
killing lvl 54 penons in 3~4 hits
and kill them all in 2 hits when I have crit on them

So what you can say about rouge kiling +14 lvl monsters .. I think rouge will solo better than all chinese builds in general and champion monsters ...

And about gaints .. make sure that you have cleric mastery .. when you see a gaint switch to cleric , bless spell , and with zerk you can kill 2 gaints and some other general monsters within these 45 sec ...

And about gaints party .. they will kill you in extreme easily .. but cancel it and fight as a full str build .. vigors will shorten the delay to 7 sec only .. cleric mastery will help a lot ... also your tactics will be the greatest factor ..
When you KB the monster and don't attack him after that he will stop attacking you and turn to your wolf ... let the wolf tank sometime and make your HP full again and make sure that pots are ready for use (cooldown time ended) .. or even cooldown time of bless spell ended ...

There are a lot of tricks you can play as a rogue .. but you only need to do it

Sure, you can kill penons. i can also do it, but we are talking here from a grind point of view. I doubt that i can survive enougth time in mugijis/ugijis , the spiders are my limit, for safety grind. Hell, the day i graduate, y was killing black yeowas and uruchi spawn allmost next to me:

but this has no value against soloing capabilities, was a exeption.

Edit: by the way, my Xbow its 38+3 crit 5 also, dagger 42+1 crit 12, and my masteries are at 40, but only have noise, moving march in bard, and kd in rogue, need to get more sp, and a better Xbow

elnawawi · Post by **elnawawi** » Sun Sep 09, 2007 5:42 am

Oh lol .. Stop thinking that people always flaming you deshin and you will be fine ..

And about your words RMP , mmm .. seems you are right as a bard subclass ..

But for a cleric I don't care about how strong the monster is I love grinding in mujigi as they aren't aggressive and die easily ,, but today I left them to grind in dead ravin because I love to have a lot of wind 2 that Red eyes ghost give me a lot and they die in 1 hit if my attack rating go high or they need fast shot after 1 hit ..
while grinding I found urchi for my first time to see him .. I did the most damge on him but lvl 56 nuker did damge more than me and he take the kill off course ...

And I discovered that rogue also best unique hunter if there is a tanker can tank that unique .. my range made no elite or gaint attack or see me ..
But no euro build can take the unique kill easily without tankers .. and tankers have too low damge that can't let them take the unique kill too .. hit and run tactic in euro will be harder than chinese hit and run because they have no phantom walk ( scud cooldowm timer is too long ) ...
that's the point ..

_FireFox_ · Post by **_FireFox_** » Sun Sep 09, 2007 6:13 am

Seriously,All you guys are wrong about the STR builds and stuff you should IMO go with a bard because on kiklopes you can grind from 13 all the way to 18 usually 1-2 hit KO'ing them.

RMP · Post by **RMP** » Sun Sep 09, 2007 6:28 am

DeShin wrote:
elnawawi wrote:Loool .. belive me you really don't know about rogues ... DeShin isn't the best rouge you can meet ...

he is lvl 42 and killing lvl 48 monsters at max with both crossbow and dagger ...

I'm lvl 40 crossbow with degree 5 , 38+3 weapon
I can kill lvl 50 mujigi in 3 hits before they touch me ...
killing lvl 52 heshade ( mag attack ) in 3 hits too as she will not 1 hit me ( her damge is 1700 and my HP while extreme is 2000 )
killing lvl 54 penons in 3~4 hits
and kill them all in 2 hits when I have crit on them

So what you can say about rouge kiling +14 lvl monsters .. I think rouge will solo better than all chinese builds in general and champion monsters ...

And about gaints .. make sure that you have cleric mastery .. when you see a gaint switch to cleric , bless spell , and with zerk you can kill 2 gaints and some other general monsters within these 45 sec ...

And about gaints party .. they will kill you in extreme easily .. but cancel it and fight as a full str build .. vigors will shorten the delay to 7 sec only .. cleric mastery will help a lot ... also your tactics will be the greatest factor ..
When you KB the monster and don't attack him after that he will stop attacking you and turn to your wolf ... let the wolf tank sometime and make your HP full again and make sure that pots are ready for use (cooldown time ended) .. or even cooldown time of bless spell ended ...

There are a lot of tricks you can play as a rogue .. but you only need to do it
Lol, if you want flaming people, please consider it carefully next time, this is not a thread to flame people and I am not a rogue. And it's ROGUE not ROUGE. If you feel like you are not belong here, please leave. This thread is to help people to understand clearly about what they think on the best solo euro char.

Ok. last post here for me.

I see you can't accept an apologie, ok, but if the "thread is to help people to underestand clearly about wath they think on the best solo euro char" How you incorrect statement about "Rogue can't do much without the help of pt member" is helping here?. I have a couple of warrior friends lvl 39 & 40, both started his char before me, playing same time and also both got a couple of lvls by powerlevel, both are behind my lvl (lvl 44 rigth now), and i soloed maybe 41 of 44 lvls. Also if i wasn't going back to samarkand to help friends with quest and stuff, i can be now lvl 50 or more.

Salu2.

DeShin · Post by **DeShin** » Sun Sep 09, 2007 6:31 am

RMP wrote:Ok. last post here for me.

I see you can't accept an apologie, ok, but if the "thread is to help people to underestand clearly about wath they think on the best solo euro char" How you incorrect statement about "Rogue can't do much without the help of pt member" is helping here?. I have a couple of warrior friends lvl 39 & 40, both started his char before me, playing same time and also both got a couple of lvls by powerlevel, both are behind my lvl (lvl 44 rigth now), and i soloed maybe 41 of 44 lvls. Also if i wasn't going back to samarkand to help friends with quest and stuff, i can be now lvl 50 or more.

Salu2.

Lol what you were thinking? I was quoting elnawawi and was commenting about elnawawi. I already cool down with your apology post and this guy came in.

I have no problem with your attittude, I have no problem with your character, I have no problem with your playstyle, I'm sure that everyone here who had posted have their own opinion on which one is the best euro char and that's include me. I'm fine with it but just too over-confident yourself. Every char has its own good and bad. I am just here to do what I can to help people on "solo" character. Solo means without the help of party member, but apparently so many people mentioned about partying. And your SS doesn't show that you are solo. That makes me wonder.

elnawawi · Post by **elnawawi** » Sun Sep 09, 2007 7:02 am

_FireFox_ wrote:Seriously,All you guys are wrong about the STR builds and stuff you should IMO go with a bard because on kiklopes you can grind from 13 all the way to 18 usually 1-2 hit KO'ing them.

lol .. your words don't prove that we are wrong at all ...

First : +10 monsters don't have party gaints, nor gaints , nor party champions .. that's make no danger on you as a solo bard

Second : you are speaking about killing -5 monsters for grinding as a bard , we are talking about + 10 lvl or +6 lvl for grinding and killing in 2 hits too .. do you know what's the exp & Sp diffrences ?

Third : You say go bard for solo .. it's bad choose .. bard is Int bases charecter with no HP or phy def like wizards .. have no shied like wizards , but he don't have buff to increase +25 % mag increase that wizards have , don't have effects to stop curse and weaking monsters but wizards have , have nothing to be invisible but wizards have , have no telport too ...
Bards are under buffer section .. and this section is for helping people not for solo ... may have 1 or 2 skills that help in solo like moving march and noise .. but these are for helping your main build to solo not to make bards for solo ....

The fact is that bards is the worst solo build as a pure bard .. and they will die more than wizards .. and till this moment I didn't see pure bard hanging around .. but I saw big number of ppl have bard as sub mastery

skaterx · Post by **skaterx** » Sun Sep 09, 2007 2:51 pm

Clerics can go solo too. I could kill 2 giants facing me at the same time.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=RZUbwcaaw0A

XemnasXD · Post by **XemnasXD** » Sun Sep 09, 2007 3:05 pm

Best Solo Builds are

1H-Sword/Bard

Xbow/Bard

thats it everyone else will spend to much time running away from monsters and dieing (if the monsters are their lvl or higher) those 2 builds can solo higher lvl monsters on there own easily.....

what ever dumbass said bard was the best solo class is retarded cause i played as a bard until lvl 20 and i have never spent so much time dieing in my life -_-

Rbizzle187 · Post by **Rbizzle187** » Sun Sep 09, 2007 4:05 pm

so xbox,1 handed,and 2 handed swords with a bard sub class are the only good solo builds also what skills should i get forbard just noise and moving march